Roger’s BLX90

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by Fabfed, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. Alex75

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    your assumptions could be correct but the problem is, Fed might be getting retail Blx or K90 to play that we can't be sure. P1 get them bare of handle therefore without the weight(s) Wilson usually put in the foam to match the balance point and weight of the model on any rackets from L1 to L5. so if P1 doesn't put anything but foam on the handle, that's leaves quite some room to reach the 364gr total and the balance could be way different!
     
  2. Kenny022593

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    Wow Fabfed, you've done it again! Awed us all with your collection. Thank you for sharing. By the way, I am honored that you included me in the OP! haha
     
  3. arriehh

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    maybe stupid question, but can someone tell me what the things are between the strings and the racket, that kind of little pillows?
     
  4. HBK4life

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    They are powerpads.
     
  5. Tyrus

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    Question fabfed, great grab btw.

    Does it have the lead tape on the top of the racket? i believe i remember seeing rogers rackets with lead under the bumper guard on the outside of the frame.
     
  6. jimbo333

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    Well done Fabfed on finally getting the Fed BLX90:)

    And that photo above, is probably my favourite ever photo, thanks for showing it!
     
  7. jimbo333

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    Yeah but he didn't include me, outrageous, there is an edit function though luckily LOL:)
     
  8. jimbo333

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    Little Pillows LOL:):)

    (Very very funny)

    Anyway, more seriously. This surely proves that Fed's BLX90 is a paintjob (very likely over a K90). The specs written on black rather than red in the throat seem to show for definite that it's a paintjob, and definitely not a retail BLX90. But this does seem like a major paintjob mistake, very strange really! Unless it was sign to us enthusiasts/expects that he is still really using a K90?
     
  9. MichaelChang

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    Hi all, do we have any conclusion yet? What is Federer really using now? a K90 painted as BLX? thanks vm.
     
  10. Fabfed

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    Welcome back Kenny, great to hear from you again! My thanks to you and the other posters for the support in the past, makes it well worth the effort :)
     
  11. Fabfed

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    Just some quick responses, yes there is probably lead tape under the bumper guard as you can see from the P1 pic Od1n posted. On the winning bid, I'm not really comfortable disclosing the amount I paid, but I actually paid quite alot more for two of the K90s than this BLX stick. I will measure the actual grip size, give me a little time. haderech buddy, I will see if I can do the balance measurement later, I'm pretty tied up now :)
     
  12. Fabfed

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    I agree with MichaelChang here and will leave it to the experts on these boards to come to a conclusion :)
     
  13. Alex75

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    if you can do the balance it would be awesome man! :)
     
  14. morten

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    well, since he used stock china ps85 for so long unmodified(yes he said so when i talked to him in 01)with a swingweight around 325 i find it so hard to believe he now swings s club swinging that much heavier.. he may use lead at 12, but then i think he already have a lighter swinging frame than the blx or K90, a special one made for him. Even 5 points is a lot in terms of swingweight. He may use 330sw but not more IMO.
     
  15. Alex75

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    my guess is that because is always holding the blx black side up, he doesn't want to be disturbed by writings and tension stickers on the red inside the throat while he is preparing to serve... the blank side doesn't ruin the concentration.
     
  16. haderech

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    Some calculations

    According to my preliminary calculations (I mate every 7 years btw), starting with a stock blx with specs inspired by TW:

    349g strung (332g + 17g of Lux/VS hybrid)
    32cm balance (strung)
    325 SW

    Adding 8g at 12 o'clock and a 7g Wilson Pro OG, produces:

    364g
    32.81cm balance (~5 pts HL)
    352 SW

    I didn't think the pillows changed much. To be continued I guess :) thanks a lot FabFed!

    This would be Fed's famous polarized setup, I guess, at least in theory.
     
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  17. (K)evin

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    Actually Federer's swingweight is much lower. I believe ARTART in a previous thread concluded that Federer's specs were 364g 31.8cm and 354sw. here is the thread http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=287033 and if you keep reading by the third page Breakpoint makes an excellent point that to achieve the specs ARTART got at the last years US Open Federer must have his frames hand picked at about 12 oz or made to be around 12 oz
     
  18. Six.One.Tour.90FAN

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    Thanks Fabfed, nice to see you back in action! :D

    Congrats on the new buy!!!

    Does anyone know where to get the leather
    from power pads from? Cut it of an old grip
    are they sold normally? Sorry to hi-jack the
    thread but just quick question!

    Thanks Fabfed ! (again)

    90
     
  19. geese_com

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    I went to a shoe repair store and just asked for some leather. They will cut you a sheet of it then you can cut that to make power pads.
     
  20. Pioneer

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    No, his balance is 31.7cm


     
  21. jimbo333

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    I don't understand where you are getting this from?

    So are you saying:-
    Strung weight 364g
    Swingweight 355
    Balance 31.7cm

    Is this possible? Is that what you are saying his specs are?
     
  22. jimbo333

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    And I know I said this earlier in the thread, but because the throat is different to a retail BLX90. Then surely it is very likely that he is not using a retail BLX hairpin, before adding his personalised grip etc.

    I'm not saying he definitely starts with a retail K90 hairpin paintjobbed to a BLX90, but I think this is most likely!
     
  23. Geoff

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    Send me an e-mail through my profile and I can send you a link where I buy the power pad leather. I believe it has been mentioned in other threads. The leather comes in strips and you can cut to the width of your preference. In the old days (1970s) you could buy precut with adhesive on one side.
     
  24. haderech

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    why the confusion?

    If my balance is 1cm off, that's because I started with a balance of 31.43cm, which is the average of 5 retail blx's according to TW. If his balance is 31.7cm, then the starting balance must have been 30.43cm, or 12 pts HL, which means either he does not use stock blx's, or you know something I don't. Care to explain?
     
  25. (K)evin

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    didn't you see my post? ARTART has the specs check the specs he has then you can try to figure it out I tried to use the customization worksheet on TWU but I'm too impatient and at work lol
     
  26. jimbo333

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    Did you actually look at the photos?

    He clearly doesn't start with a stock retail BLX even in hairpin form, the throat is different!

    I'm sure it's a paintjob, probably of the K90. Anyway, I actually know someone with one of Feds racquets, so I'll ask him tomorrow for the balance of it, and I'll post it on here. That's my last word on the subjuect until then.
     
  27. haderech

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    Of course I looked at the post, the photos above, and everything else. The interest here is in dispelling the myth of Fed's using a retail racquet. I of course think it's a paintjob, but I'm interested in proving it. I played with the numbers again and got 31.8 cm, exactly what ART ART has. It is very easy to be a cm off, which was not a big deal anyway - I was just trying to use the precision of my calculations to show it one way or another. Naturally, us mortals can customize retail blx's to Fed's specs and have something very, very similar. I'll look forward to your next post :)
     
  28. tiochaota

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    what is the beam width?
     
  29. FEDERERNADAL13

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    I don't know if this has been discussed before but does roger have any lead on his racket?? Where?? How much?? Thank you!:)
     
  30. VGP

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    ^^^^ c'mon, at least go through the thread.
     
  31. FEDERERNADAL13

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    Sorry I just saw the thread at 7 pages and felt really lazy... Now I read through it and now I know!:twisted:
     
  32. morten

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    +1............. ;)
     
  33. Povl Carstensen

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    If you compare stock BLX and K you will see a difference in the shape/depth/with of the the dent for the grommet. This could be the giveaway.
    And Morten, there was actually lead tape in the throat of Federers PS 85, from what I have seen on pictures.
     
  34. tiochaota

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    Fabfed what's the beam width??
     
  35. ART ART

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    Interesting... isn't it ? :)

    ... to see if there's some lead at 12, it only takes to lift the grommet a little bit ...

    ... to check the balance point, it only takes a small measure tape to do it ...

    After all this time, with all those Roger's rackets in your hands, and you still haven't checked the balance and the amount off lead tape... this makes me wonder why ??? :twisted::twisted:

    But again... we still hope to hear some good news... :)
     
  36. MrFlip

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    Did you not see the throat of Fed's BLX?
     
  37. jimbo333

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    I presume you meant 0.1cm off?

    My friend is measuring the balance point and emailing a photo of the racquet, within the next hour:)
     
  38. jimbo333

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    I can understand why Fabfed won't try to lift the grommet, it will probably slightly damage the grommet, which he doesn't want to do.

    I hope he does measure and tell us the balance point though!

    In fact will be interesting to see if they are all the same on all 4 racquets:twisted:
     
  39. jimbo333

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    Surely this is proof that Fed's BLX90 is a paintjob (guessing of probably the K90), but of course we'll never know for sure, even measuring specs etc
     
  40. jimbo333

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    Just got the email, and doesn't seem quite right to me, but here we go......
     
  41. JoelDali

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    Yeah, it looks suspicious, what do you think so far?
     
  42. jimbo333

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    Just to be clear, this is not my racquet, it belongs to a friend. It was used by Federer at the O2 in November last year apparently!

    He hasn't measured the weight, but the balance measured was 32.1cm

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    And are these yours knots RJYU? LOL:)

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  43. arriehh

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    can someone tell me why roger is playing with the natural gut(the weakest) in the length? normally it's just the otherway, right?
     
  44. Pioneer

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    No, if you want more of a gut feel you put it in the mains, if you want more of a poly feel you put the poly in the mains

     
  45. davidradu

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    How do you know that is Roger's racket for sure? Why would he leave a racket around?
     
  46. jimbo333

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    LOL Don't think it was left around anywhere:)

    It was won at a charity auction in the UK!
     
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    Jimbo, for a minute there i thought it was your racket ;-)
    Thanks for the info!
    The knots look like Ron's
     
  48. jimbo333

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    Wish it was:)

    I certainly can't afford to buy it off him at the moment, or probably ever!
     
  49. RJYU

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    Yup. Those are my knots. Or, as Nate calls them, "Those beehive looking pieces of sh*t."
     
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    As always, great stuff, Fabfed. Much appreciate you sharing this stuff with us *******s. :)
     

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