Roger’s BLX90

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by Fabfed, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. jimbo333

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    Thanks for the confirmation:)

    So the balance is 32.1cm on this actual Federer racquet!

    Will be interesting to see what Fabfeds come in at?
     
  2. MichaelChang

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    wow lol nice.
     
  3. stangaele

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    just to understand...it seems that the balance of this federer racket is 32.1 cm...i'm going to conclude that federer places lead tape around the head,is this true?


    daniele
     
  4. (K)evin

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    so you are saying that Roger still uses an unmodified racquet....

    so what does he go to P1 for nothing? just to spend money because he can?

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    so with these pictures and theory Roger Federer gets a racquet at around 358 grams and 310 in swingweight?

    you my friend are down right insane
     
  5. wonder1994

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    Hello guys! Very nice work FabFed, I'm also playing Federer's(US retail) racket thats so great, with hybrid 24.5/23.5. I'm very interesting in this federer "bumpers" down below wilson logo. What's this? How he doing it?
     
  6. wonder1994

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    I think he do it to get a very small vibration? Am I right Ron?
     
  7. wonder1994

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    And I want to be PRO in 1-2 years with this racket
     
  8. wonder1994

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    Can anyone answer about Fed's damp's??
     
  9. morten

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    lol... yes :) try an 20 points increase in swingweight yourself... no way he uses 350+ swingweight, 330+-...yes as the ps85.
     
  10. MichaelChang

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    Exactly. Tennis is all about the racket, not about the player himself.

    :twisted:
     
  11. Kenny022593

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    When you are calculating the specs of his racquet are the power pads negligable to the weight because they are so small?
     
  12. DudeBro

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    Is it just me or does the handle look shorter on the BLX PJ vs the K90? RJYU- are you wrapping his handle any differently with his overgrip?
     
  13. Pioneer

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    Ok now if you're so smart go fight the Swiss military with a 1891 Carcano



     
  14. Edberg

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    FabFed or Breakpoint,

    I read earlier in the thread that you guys believe Fed is using the K90. Would that be the 12 ounce Asian K90 or the 12.5 US K90?

    Thanks for all of your awesome photos FabFed.
     
  15. (K)evin

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    thats a good question I'd also like to know
     
  16. (K)evin

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    you're delusional
     
  17. corners

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    Nice work! Weight and swingweight coming next? Flex would be nice as well.:)
     
  18. jimbo333

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    Thanks:) But that is all the info. I can get at the moment as it's not my racquet!

    I bet the weight is about 364g though (same as Fabfeds racquets), and I'm really looking forward to seeing the balance on his 4 racquets, to see how they compare to the 32.1cm:)
     
  19. Pioneer

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    No balance coming up. But Greg Raven has his frame and the balance was 31.5, with a 362.5g weight and a 338 SW. If I'm willing to trust anybody it's the guy who is a pro stringer and has a picture of Fed's K6.1 with the little "ROGER" sticker above the grip and the powerpads

     
  20. corners

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    Well, Fabfed has so far been unwilling to even check the balance of his frames. And he's afraid putting one on an RDC to check the swingweight will damage the frame:???:

    (Sorry Fabfed, and thanks for putting your pictures up)

    Without the swingweight, however, we still know very little. With the swingweight, we would know everything. I'm 90% sure it's about 350, but confirmation of that would be nice.
     
  21. jimbo333

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    Looking forward to see the balance of the 4 racquets, when you get a chance to measure them, to see how they compare to 32.1cm:)
     
  22. BreakPoint

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    Of course it's the 12.5 oz. US version of the K90. It's been weighed by several people on this board. The Asian version would be way too light and under-powered for him or for any pro player for that matter. Heck, it's even too under-powered for me but I still use it because I like the feel of it and it's easy to swing. :)
     
  23. BreakPoint

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    A bit hard to read the scale on the smaller pics but it looks like all the K90's and the BLX90 are all 364g? If so, great job by Priority One to get all of them to weigh EXACTLY the same.

    BTW, this is the weight of a typical retail K90 if you string it up with a natural gut/poly hybrid, add the power pads, and put on an overgrip. I say "typical" because with Wilson's poor quality control, the weight of retail K90's can be all over the map. Obviously, Federer gets his hand selected to be as close as possible in weight and balance. Priority One then takes care of any additional tweaking required to get them to match exactly.

    All of your pics are great, Fabfed! Thanks for sharing. :)
     
  24. BreakPoint

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    A stock retail BLX90 can have a huge variation in weight due to Wilson's poor quality control. So a strung BLX90 with power pads and overgrip can weigh anywhere between 357g to 375g or more or less. Anything is possible with Wilson racquets.
     
  25. BreakPoint

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    Because they're not. :)
     
  26. BreakPoint

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    This might have been answered already in this long thread, but I assume the sticker that reads "MON 22.5" means that the racquet was strung on Monday and the MAINS are strung at 22.5 kg? If so, what were the crosses strung at, as we know Federer usually has his crosses strung at a different tension than the mains? Also, can Federer tell from just looking at the tension for the mains what the tension for the crosses are, i.e., does he always maintain the same differential between the mains and crosses?

    Thanks to anyone that can answer this. Hopefully, Ron Yu will chime in again.
     
  27. BreakPoint

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    Hmmm....but I've hit with quite a few different retail PS 6.0 85's (Chicago, Taiwan, China) and they all felt like they swung heavier than 325. Closer to 330 if you ask me. The Chicago and Taiwan versions swung heavier than the China version, but all closer to 330 for me.

    In fact, TW measured the swingweight of the China PS 6.0 85 to be 329:
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/REVIEWS/60/60Review.html
     
  28. BreakPoint

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    Could you please point out how the throat is different? I can't see a difference from the pics but they are not that clear.

    Thanks.
     
  29. Fabfed

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    Give me a little time, just a couple of weeks, minimally I'll get the balance of the racquets out to you guys, complete with pics (you won't have to take my word for it). On the lead tape, I'll try to look out for it, but I don't see how I can lift up the bumper even a little without possibly risking damage to the strings or the grommet. And if you look at my earlier posts, I did say I was busy this past week, plus the F1 circus is in town next week so I will be tied up as well, F1 is my other great passion :)
     
  30. Fabfed

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    BP yes they are all 364g :)
     
  31. Pioneer

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    I know that people who play on clay sometimes get clay under the bumper guard and use a really sharp knife to lift the bumper while the clay falls out. I do it no problem but it's risky business. There's no point in doing it since P1 have already posted pics of where his lead tape is


     
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    You are a good man. Unlike the people who drove FabFed away the first time yelling at him to do risky things :)
     
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    What's the beam width of the k 90 and blx, retail k 90 is 18mm while retail blx is 17.5 mm, correct ne if im wrong, and possible to measure head size? That would end the ps 85 argument.
     
  34. jimbo333

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    I've never really been interested in Federer's exact racquet specs, so this is all quite new to me, but now my friend has one of his racquets (earlier in this thread Ron confirmed he strung that racquet), I am taking an interest:)

    Greg's specs look like they may be about right to me, but if they are then surely Art Art's (balance 31.8, weight 364g, SW 355) are wrong. I don't see how they can both be right, as they have similar balance and weight but SW is totally different!

    My friends Federer racquet has a balance of 32.1cm, but I don't know weight or SW yet. I will try and find out, although it may take a while.
     
  35. jimbo333

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    Fabfeds photos are superb , and very clear!

    Federers BLX90 has a different paintjob in throat to a retail BLX. Retail racquet specs are on black on Fed's racquet, but on red on retail. There are other differences as well if you look carefully!

    Federer's BLX is definitely some sort of paintjob, probably K90 underneath, but I still don't understand how SW can be as high as 355, with weight of 364g on such a HL racquet, surely either it isn't a K90 or SW is lower?
     
  36. Fabfed

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    Ok, I just bought a balance board which will arrive sometime next week. I know it's not really necessary and I could have fashioned something myself using a dowel and measuring tape but I thought I might as well get it measured as accurately as possible. Btw, the scale you see in the photos, I bought it last year specifically to weigh the racquets when posters wanted to know the weight. So, I'm not asking for appreciation or anything but just cut me some slack if I'm a little slow replying or if I can't respond to eveything, as I said at the outset, I will do what I can. I will get the balance measured as early as end of next week if I get the board on time :)
     
  37. geese_com

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    Thanks FabFed. Can't wait to see what the specs are.
     
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    Flip7 is that u buddy??
     
  39. BreakPoint

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    I've measured at least a dozen K90's and all came out to to be 17mm in width.
     
  40. BreakPoint

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    I don't have a retail BLX in front of me but if the specs are written in red, how could you see them on a red background? And I'm not sure if that's definitive indication of anything as decals sometimes do get changed.

    BTW, I still can't see the differences in the throat between Federer's BLX90 and the retail BLX90. Could you please point out specifically what the difference are? Thanks.
     
  41. wonder1994

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    I must agree with BreakPoint, so I think Federer don't have something special in his racket. Only I know on 100%, it's quality much better then retail, and that Federer's team change strung (about from 21kg on hard and grass court to 23 on clay, i think), balance +/-0.3cm and weigth +/- 5/10gr of his rackets (it's depending of the court coverage). I think that other things don't change Federer's game or they're made for coolness:cool:.
     
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    What he means, is that on a retail frame, the specs are written on the red side of the throat but on Federer's the specs are written on the black side of the throat....
     
  43. Fabfed

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    Actually I gotta agree with BP here, when I first got hold of the FedBLX I simply thought Wilson decided to switch the specs to the black side because the gold prints would be much clearer against a black background rather than a red background, and I thought maybe the latest batches of retail BLX90s would similarly have the specs on the black side (I bought my retail BLX90s when they were first released). So the side where the specs appear doesn't mean much IMO.
     
  44. 15_ounce

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    :):):twisted:Somehow I agree with you. Though I have the talent, I feel that when I change to certain racquets my playing ability somehow enhanced and when I change to other racquet my playing ability somehow reduced.

    When I play with Bosworth Rossignol 9R yellow power racquet, my groundstroke just so compact and more consistent and I wonder why the balls refuse to go out beyond the baseline and my second serves just keep painting the line. I feel that the swingweight is just perfect... and I can hit with tons of topspin on both sides and deal with high bounce ball on my backhand side easily (single handed backhand).

    I suppose PRO racquet customizer really are experts at what they're doing and they know what they're doing!!!!!
     
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    Fabfed, thank you for all your pictures, I really appeciate it.

    Maybe you could try to lift bumperguard a little bit just with your nail and fingers. You would make happy a lot of members here.. :)

    Thanks.

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    Eh? Then it's not the retail k90 or blx ( or modified retail.
     
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    What is the difference between retail and moduled (on your photo) ?
     
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    modified* sorry..
     
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    Yes, thanks. After writing that post I went back and looked at all the pics in this thread and realized what he was referring to. Before then, I thought when he referred to "differences in the throat" that he meant the throats had different shapes (like between a Tour 90 and a KPS88, indicating a different mold) and I kept trying to see a difference but couldn't. :)
     

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