Roger Federer Is Annoying

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  1. HollerOne5

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    I'll get crap for this but who cares....

    Is anyone else sick of him winning everything? Seriously, its getting old. You don't even have to watch tennis to know the results of anything besides the matchup between Federer vs. Nadal. No one else can beat him, because everyone else chokes against him or doesn't believe they can beat him. I mean c'mon, he went to 3 sets FOUR TIMES this week, even faced match points, and still no one could beat him. Its just ridiculous. Unless the rest of the ATP can step up and start beating him, the tour is a joke. Just a bunch of chokers, he's really good, but he's not invincible.
     
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  2. oscar_2424

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    So he is annoying because nobody can beat him?? you dont make sense
     
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  3. J-man

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    So a player is a joke becasue you can't beat the world #1 no?!! no he isn't

    Wouldn't you go into a match thinking the chances of beating Federer are close to zero????

    It's a big deal having match points against the #1 player in the world. PLus Federer is not one to easily give up
     
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  4. Nyl

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    well, i think this is even better, it pushes the quality of tennis
     
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  5. exruda

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    You just can't be pleased. When Fed wins a torunament he's boring, when he loses (to Nadal) he's boring. How can the result of a match with 4 match points for one player and finally won by another be considered obvious?
     
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  6. Shabazza

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    Cry me a river!!! :(
     
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  7. Simon Cowell

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    Federer himself is not annoying, his jock-riding g.o.a.t. fans are.
     
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  8. FEDEXP

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    Yeah, and his detractors are so bright and post really though provoking stuff.
     
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  9. dh003i

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    So you get to downplay his accomplishments because he's so great that he makes everyone else look bad? But when he loses against Nadal, oh, then he's over the hill, on the downside of his career, will never win another Grand Slam again, is a choker, isn't really that great, and probably won't win Wimbledon?

    Really, what does the guy have to do to get some respect? He gets to the finals on his worst surface, and loses to the best clay-court player in the game -- probably one of the best (not greatest) clay-courtesr of all time -- and that's somehow a big huge failure.

    This is bull-****.
     
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  10. siber222000

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    exactly
     
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    Hey what do you expect? It is grass season again. It is tough be a Fed hater this time of the year. All those retards can hope for is that Fed loses a single set during a match.
     
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    Tennis is so predictable these days. When it's not on clay and Nadal is not there, you don't need to watch the match when Federer is playing as he's sure to win. But I don't agree that Federer is the one that's boring. It's the whole competition!!! I mean there's none. Tennis fans should be grateful that at least we have Nadal as competition to Fed. When they play, we're not sure who's going to win(at least, when they are not playing on grass). With them playing, there's still an element of excitement a surprise if you will. The rest of the tour tho' is one big disappointment. They retire (for whatever reason), choke, or fold over.
     
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  13. Boja

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    Holler, who is your favorite player? Somebody like Gimelstob? You know, he barely wins so he's not annoying...
     
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  14. matchpoint

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    The real annoying is the op. :mrgreen:
     
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  15. dh003i

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    8PAQ,

    Yea, and if he loses a single set at Wimbledon, but wins it, it'll be, oh the guy is clearly slipping.

    Message to Nadal fans: Face it, Federer's the best player in tennis today. Period. He's the 2nd best player on Nadal's favorite surface (clay), and the best player on every other surface. Sorry, head to head doesn't count: only grand slams count.

    How about we just face the fact that Federer is the prohibitive favorite for every tournament and grand slam from this point in the year.
     
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  16. flymeng

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    It is not annoying but boring because the results are predictable. Roger is a nice guy. There is no excitement. No one can challenge him except for Rafael on clay.
     
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  17. BabolatFan

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    Isn't it fantastic about Roger? He's pushing the limits and the rest of top players'd better bring it. This hardcourt season should be even more exciting with alot of improved players...
     
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  18. dh003i

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    hey, reality check for all of you ass-hats trying to downplay Roger's accomplishments by saying the competition isn't that great: If he didn't exist, there'd be someone else on top, and it would probably be much closer (the rest of the field is much closer). Then, people would say, "wow, how competitive it is: this #1 guy (Roddick or Hewitt) really isn't that much better than anyone else: he isn't dominant".

    I guess you just can't win.
     
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  19. tonsorial

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    well said dh003i, ill go with u
     
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  20. alienhamster

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    Sure, I'd like it to be a bit more competitive at the top, but I'm not annoyed at Federer at all. His play is so fun to watch, just aesthetically. So much variety in terms of shotmaking.

    Now Pete Sampras--there was a guy with great skill who utterly bored me to death. His dominance was annoying as hell. So glad that's over.
     
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  21. HollerOne5

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    Maybe I should have titled the thread "The fact no one can beat Roger Federer is annoying," rather than he is annoying himself.

    I have nothing against Federer, and I think its great for him that he has been able to accomplish so much. But let's be honest, as a fan and a spectator, it is highly unentertaining to see the same person win everything all the time. And a lot of the time, he is winning in less than thrilling and appealing matches. For instance, during the French Open, I've never seen someone (who is #1 in the world) shank so many shots and still win matches. Of course, the finals match he shanked a ridiculous amount and lost, but still. Although Federer has proven to be unbeatable (with the exception of Nadal), a lot of times he wins with less than stellar performances, and I have to credit this more to the nerves of his opponents rather than his fine play. The rest of the tour have placed him on such a pedestal, that they honestly don't think they have a chance against him (including Roddick, Hewitt, Ljubicic - who have all publicly and practically admitted this). When you have top 5 and top 10 players saying this, it doesn't bode well for the sport.

    Sure, some of you think its great that Federer is raising the bar so high, which is fine, but I think after 2 and a half years of doing so, that is plenty. Others besides Nadal seriously need to step it up, because its boring for the sport. Its boring and predictable for me, knowing that every day that I checked the results this week in Halle, I see Federer win, win, win, and win some more, even in 3 set matches, that I have to assume a lot of the players had their chances (especially the 4 match points Rochus had......= NERVES). These players don't believe they can beat him......

    This isn't an attack on Federer guys, so stop hating. Its not even an attack. I'm simply saying that the sheer fact that knowing every match involving Federer is highly UNentertaining and predictable, is getting old, monotonous, and is making tennis NOT fun to watch.

    For example, how many of you during the Australian Open (especially knowing Nadal wasn't there) was really hoping for Haas, Davydenko, or even Baghdatis to pull through and upset Federer? I was - it would have been great for the sport. Yeah, they gave him some good sets, and then foiled. And everyone credits Federer for stepping up his play all the time (I would more than likely say he stays consistent rather than steps it up, while at the same time his opponents get nervous and fold).

    I guess this is what I'm saying - There is entirely waaaayyy too much depth (skill wise) on the ATP tour today for someone to be completely unbeatable. The fact that Federer is, I think, is more due to the fact his opponents have no belief in winning before they step on the court, and you can't argue with that fact. The one person who does believe he can beat Federer, does.....and regularly.....
     
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  22. RadekStepanekTheKing

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    For me the fact that he wins almost everything is annoying enough..
     
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  23. HyperHorse

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    im with you there....
    HollerOne5, shut up and admire Roger's brilliance...
    players like this dont come along very often.
    im also waiting for a rivalry just like yourself, so i know your frustration...
    just get over it...:rolleyes:
     
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  24. Roger is Boring

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    I dont like him cause he is soooo arrogant and he doesnt show any respect for players who are better than him, like nadal.hes really a sore loser an not the classact the media makes him out to be.
     
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  25. mileslong

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    it just gets more and more stupid on this board. please tell what players are better than federer? he has over 7000 points, nadal has 4000 something. why dont you give us an example of this instead of just more midless statements from the most jealous person on ths board.
     
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  26. exruda

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    "like nadal"?
    Nadal is the only candidate for a player "better than Fed", and many poeple do not find him anywhere better than Fed on any surface other than clay, so that is disputable, too.
     
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  27. HollerOne5

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    How am I being annoying? I'm not even waiting for a rivalry, I'm waiting for other players to step up and be able to close out matches versus Roger. And I think Roger is great, but he is not brilliant trust me. I've haven't seen a top level player shank as many balls as he did in the French Final, or play the way he did. I'd hardly call that brilliant.
     
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  28. RiosTheGenius

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    I think you're annoying for starting this thread :lol:
     
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    hahahah :mrgreen:
     
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    He's a bore and I don't watch his matches unless
    he starts crying and whining, especially when he plays
    Nadal, Roddick or Nalbandian!!!

    Federer enjoys showing off how he can get away
    with selfishness and evilness. He's such an egomaniac. No wonder
    his apologists share his traits. They just don't have tennis success.
    LMFAO!!!!!!! * roar
    Fed's full of contempt and bitterness when he loses.
    "I should've won. Nadal's coach cheated. I found out!!!!!....I'm not saying
    that Nadal cheated."

    The world's losers never choked when they had
    match points against him, though. A midget, Rochus, should've beaten
    the MIGHTY GIANT. Federer loves poor competition full of mental
    midgets too. Roddick and Nalbandian. Blake was added to the list.
    He knows he's a mental midget against NADAL. OH NO!!!
    You have to beat him in straight sets to have the Fed trolls' respect.
    LMAO!!

    When he plays badly again, which is very often,
    he can give the "I'm practically standing on one leg and I'm
    the only star left" excuse as he loses. What a brilliant celebrity!

    Everyone has to lose early to make him
    happy. He admitted this in 2004.
    He knows it's his opponents' faults when they choke against him
    They are already physically weak compared to him and
    they also collapse under Federer's self-promotion
    and overwhelming media lies.
    The top players are afraid of humiliation if they admit that
    Federer's a shameful liar, and ugly, boring overrated player and person.
    He'll do anything to make himself look superior in every way.
    That's death to tennis.
    I advise the nonFed fans to save their money
    for important things like food and housing expenses.
    Don't spend it on Federer matches. Embarrassing.
     
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  31. dh003i

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    Nadal better than Federer? The only way you could make that idiotic claim is if you go only by head to head. But then Blake would be better than Nadal, and Federer better than Blake: head-to-head does not determine who the best player in the world is, and cannot by definition, due to its inconsistent rankings.

    So, anyone who uses h2h to decide who the best player in the world is...is a complete and total moron.

    We have a ranking system; we also have ATP race points. Federer is #1 in both. Federer also holds 3 of the last 4 Grand Slams. Conclusion: Federer is the best player in the ATP. End of discussion.

    Even without engaging in any math, it should be obvious that when Federer is a great player on clay -- 2nd best on the surface -- and the best player on every other surface; while Nadal is best on clay, average on grass, and merely good on hard-courts; that Federer is the better player.

    Also, I don't agree that one player winning everything is boring. For one thing, this is an ex-post judgement. It isn't at all certain that Federer is going to win every non-clay tournament he enters. We just look back with hindsight on that. And I highly disagree with the statement that Federer never ups his game, and plays "poor" even when he wins. If you watch his games, he clearly does up it when he starts out poorly initially.

    Look, the Chicago Bulls won everything during that 3-3 run they had with Jordan, Pippen, and Jackson. I'd hardly call that boring. And the NBA was very very popular during that time, and has since declined in popularity (I mean, teams winning the NBA Finals after the Bulls -- the former Lakers, the Spurs, the Pistons, and either the Mavericks or the Heat -- would have been blown out of the water by the Chicago Bulls).
     
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    Everybody, outside of New York, hated the Yankees during their glory decades. It's just the way it is in sports. People like a winner, then later hate him/her/them because they keep on winning.

    On Roger, enjoy his brilliance. It will be gone soon enough. Then in the decades to come, you can tell your grandchildren that you watched him play and describe just how good he was.
     
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  33. Grigollif1

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    Yeah, if it was Andre Agassi you wouldn't be complainning hun?
    after all, you would have plenny of more images to add to the picture thread...lol
     
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  34. HollerOne5

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    If my grandchildren ask me about watching Federer dominate over a 3 year span or so, I'll tell them it was more likely due to mentally weak competition. He's winning tournaments the way the WTA used to be dominated when it had no depth. He has only one challenger, its a complete joke. No one can sit there and honestly admit that Federer is highly entertaining to watch. Yes, sometimes he hits some ridiculous shots, but overall, his game is boring to watch, and the manner in which he wins, is more just taking opponents out of their game with his variety, rather than taking it to them. You can counter that by saying that is brilliance in itself, which it may be. But as a spectator, its boring to see that gameplan defeat everyone. He's not blowing people off the court by any means.
     
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  35. Tennis_Goodness

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    Federer is just too good. Nobody is ever going to become number 1 with him around. He probablly is going to end up as the best ever!
     
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  36. HollerOne5

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    I doubt that. Everyone has highs and lows. Whether it be by injury, or the fact the competition catches onto him, Federer will not be #1 until the day he retires, unless he retires within the next 2 years or so, which is highly unlikely. What the tennis world needs is for some other players besides Nadal to step it up mentall and rise to the big occasions. Nalbandian has the capability I suppose, seeing how he now regularly gets to Semis in slams and such. Maybe he could be a late-bloomer like Federer and start getting some wins in some big moments. Or maybe Safin can get his stuff together soon? Whatever it is, it needs to be done sooner rather than later, before the guy racks up so many grand slams that his head swells so big it explodes.
     
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  37. The Pusher Terminator

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    YOU SAID IT BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  38. HollerOne5

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    Sort of a new topic within a thread, but there is no way I'm starting another thread on Federer/Nadal at all, its just being hyped to death, BUT I have some questions for people....

    Even if Nadal were able to gain the number one ranking while Federer was around within the next year or so, you have admit that everyone would still feel that Federer is the number one player yes?

    And continuing with the rankings, Federer just hit 7260 points with his win in Halle, while Nadal has 4545. Now, Federer has 3,000 points to defend at the next 3 slams (while Nadal has probably around 200 points to defend at these) They each have 2 masters series events (500 each to defend) while Federer has an extra 500 to defend for the Shanghai event. Its obvious that from this point forward, the gap will continue to close and close if Nadal can live up to his seeding or close to it, setting himself up for a real shot at #1 next year? What do you guys see happening? Necessary for tennis?
     
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  39. HollerOne5

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    Check that.....

    Nadal has 110 points to defend at the next 3 majors while Federer has 3,000 points to defend. Only time will tell I guess, but you'd have to be an idiot not to think that gap is going to be cut considerably.
     
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  40. Simon Cowell

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    LOL! You just contradicted yourself with the EXACT reason why Nadal is better than Federer. Wow, on the IQ scale son, I think you owe them some points.


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  41. HollerOne5

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    In dh0003i's defense, he means who is the better player versus the competition, which then he would be right.

    But, like the way you would settle it in the public park or on the high school team, you find out who the better player is by having them play each other, which, Nadal would then come out on top.

    It's kind of up for your own interpretation.
     
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  42. ACE of Hearts

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    LMAO at all these Fed bashers and haters, i knew this would happen as soon as the smell of grass started.U better just sit back and cry me a ****ing river!:lol:
     
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  43. exruda

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    this is true and I do see the gap closing;

    however, notice that of the four remaining MS to be played this year (2000 points for grabs) last year Fed participated in and won one (while Nadal participated in 3 and won 2)

    lol, Federer really only has finals or titles to defend from now on :)
     
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  44. HollerOne5

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    Yes, the point system is difficult for people to understand, especially for non-tennis diehards who wonder how Federer can be number one by so much but always lose to Nadal, but the grand slam points are the most important, and now all the pressure will be on Federer to defend those, while everything Nadal gains will just be tacked on to his point tally.

    I did notice the 2000 points up for grabs, while Nadal has 1,000 to defend, and Federer has 500. I don't see both of them playing all 4 tournaments this year but you never know, but you'd have to at least think, and by recent MS events, that each of them could win 2 of them. I think the tale will be told in the grand slams.
     
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    Like I said, I'm not bashing Federer, its just annoying to know he is going to win and no one can challenge except one person. It makes men's tennis look as pathetic as women's tennis was in the Evert/Navratilova days.
     
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    Conversely imagine such a situation: there is no Federer in the tour, and every f..g PRO plays at the level of Berdych. Can there be exciting final ? Personally me could watch 1-2 matches in a year in such a situation, not more. It is GREAT that there are such players as Federer, Santoro, Nadal on clay ... who bring fun to fans.
     
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  47. theNetCordHatesME

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    Over this year Nadal has proven to be Federer's Kryptonite. I know this conclusion is probably absurd, but Federer looked emotionally crushed this year in Halle. I know he was most likely just physically fatigued and he always carries a pensive countenance, but his face looked different this past week. He was unshaven and just looked gritty, like a drunk with all hope and aspirations lost. JMO
     
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    Seeing as how he put forth such a poor effort in that 4th set tie-break last week against Nadal, and seeing as how it cost him a golden opportunity for a Roger-Slam, and then possibly a calendar year Slam, how could he not be down?

    He's fortunate that he's so much better than everyone else on grass, and its a good thing that Wimbledon is best of five, where he's less likely to be upset than at Halle.
     
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  49. Tennis_Goodness

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    No one you mentioned has the talent of Federer. Federer won't be number 1 until the day he retires but nobody is good enough to knock him off anytime soon. Barring injury I still think he is on top for the next 3 to 4 years. Safin is really good but again he dosen't have the talent or the stuff upstairs to challenge for number 1 and while Nadal is great on clay, he has not translated that to other grandslams and his game does not seem to be suited for other slams!

    People have hard time wondering why Federer dominates, but it's simply he's just so much better then everybody else!
     
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  50. Federer The G.O.A.T.!

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    You brought up a great point. Some people just create whiny-type threads, just to talk out of their asses, that's all. :)
     
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