Roger Federer says Rafael Nadal deserves higher seed at French Open

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  1. Sabratha

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    The French Open won’t be bumping Rafael Nadal’s seed. Roger Federer doesn’t necessarily agree with that, but he’s happy the decision was set three weeks ahead of Roland Garros.

    “We all know he would deserve it,” said Federer, who beat Radek Stepanek 6-3, 6-3 to make the third round in Madrid on Tuesday. “I mean, he’s been so successful there in the last eight, nine years that everybody knows that he deserves it.”

    The French Open announced last week that it would not reseed Nadal, who is currently ranked fifth, even though he has won the tournament seven times in the last eight years. Reseeding Nadal into the top two or four would have allowed him to avoid a meeting against Novak Djokovic, Federer or Andy Murray in the quarterfinals.

    “Is it really going to make a huge difference if he’s five or one?” Federer said. “Not a whole lot, I don’t think, at the end of the tournament. If I were to play him in the quarters or in the semis or any other player, it’s not the finals yet. So the best is going to win. Rafa obviously has a great chance because of the great player he is on clay.”

    Nadal can still earn a top four seed depending on his (and David Ferrer’s) results over the next two weeks, in Madrid and Rome. Nadal could pass Ferrer for the No. 4 spot in the rankings, but he cannot reach the top three.

    “I’m happy that they took a decision regardless of which one was the right one, just to go with something,” Federer said. “Now there is peace and quiet around it again.”

    http://tennis.si.com/2013/05/07/roger-federer-rafael-nadal-french-open-seed/
     
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  2. Ehh

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    Totally self-serving.

    He does not want to play Nadal in the quarters. But he has nothing to fear. The French Open like Federer, and want a Djokovic or Federer vs Nadal final, and another Djokovic vs Federer semi.

    So Nadal will face Ferrer or Murray in the quarters and then Ferrer or Murray in the semis. Guaranteed. Refer back to this poast when it happens.
     
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    Federer is out of his d*** mind.

    Nobody owes you (Nadal, Federer, whoever) anything.

    The guys work their a**** off, to get the ranking position that they have, to have a better chance.

    And, since he claims, that there isn't much of a difference, why not the seedings remain the same?
     
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  4. mistik

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    He doesnt deserve higher seeding and this is coming from a Nadal fan.
     
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  5. sbengte

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    QFT. Fed is just stupid if he doesn't yet realize that Nadal doesn't officially need a higher seeding to fall in the "right" quarter so it is business as usual.
     
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    The arrogance.
     
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    The above posts are hilarious. Do you people even read the whole thing?

    He says Nadal would deserve a higher seeding. He doesn't say he should get it. He even adds that it doesn't matter, and it's good that they took a decision.

    Sounds very straightforward. But no, let's talk about this for 30 pages and start calling Federer and Nadal names.
     
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    the ignorance (of the poster)
     
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  9. Magnus

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    Nadal likes seeds, that's all I know.
     
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    "Would deserve" is the problem.

    The guys, that have worked for their ranking, and that "would" loose their ranking, in the event of promoting Nadal to a higher ranking, do not deserve it?

    Again, he should think twice, before showing preference for the players with his status.

    We are aware, that they bring in the big crowds and the money, but they are not God Almighty.
     
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  11. The_Order

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    Yeah, Ferrer worked his arse off to get to #4 didn't he? He must've worked so hard it caused Nadal to get injured...
     
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    Well, now that he knows it won't happen, easy talk.
     
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  13. Sabratha

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    Ferrer actually did work rather hard to gain the #4 ranking, winning in Paris last year and getting to the semifinals at Wimbledon, the US Open and the Australian Open this year. He's basically been filling in as another Murray for the time being.
     
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  14. moonballs

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    Article says

    "Reseeding Nadal into the top two or four would have allowed him to avoid a meeting against Novak Djokovic, Federer or Andy Murray in the quarterfinals."

    I am thinking Nadal will likely be in Ferrer's quarter anyway.
     
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    Poor Ferrer.
     
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    I'm thinking it's Fed, Djoko and Murray who would really, really want to avoid an early encounter with Rafa, not the other way around.
     
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    Djokovic has shown he can defeat Nadal multiple times on clay, and he nearly won the final last year. He can do it, and I think he would like to prove it, even as early as the QF round.
     
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    Not in a best of 5 on clay and not at RG (he's already lost to Rafa 4 times there). It's one thing to say that Djoko would have a better chance than the other 2 but to actually say that he wouldn't mind bumping into Rafa as early as the quarters, given their past history in this event, is really pushing it.
     
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    Just the usual bromantic strategy of Fed to show public endearment towards Nadal to buffer the inevitable defeat.
     
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  20. zam88

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    if i'm federer, i'm tanking this FO unless there are some crazy upsets to djoker/nadal.

    i'm all-in on Wimbledon.
     
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    That doesn't matter. Djokovic has a significantly better chance, and if he gets Rafa in the Qtrs Rafa may not be totally in form yet. Then if Djokovic happens to play really well that's the round he'll want to get Rafa. We all know Djokovic can do it regardless of whether or not he's actually done it. That's why the saying goes "There's a first time for everything."
     
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    He would still want a good result regardless. Federer doesn't give a damn about H2H.
     
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  23. sureshs

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    How do you know that?
     
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    Ralph should employ the same strategy with Noel, he will need it !
     
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  25. sureshs

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    No, Baby Fed will take care of Djoker again
     
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  26. Towser83

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    Hey Ferrer is a 30 year old guy who managed to play a full season without getting injured. managing your health is part of tennis, so yeah he deserves his ranking.

    On the matter of federer, he clearly just does not want to play Nadal in the quarters. Fed is talking crap this time.
     
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    The discussion is not whether he CAN do it (even though the burden of proof rests on Djoko given that he has NEVER beaten Nadal in a best of 5 on clay including in DC). It's about whether he'd WANT to meet Nadal in quarters. My opinion is that he wouldn't. Hey maybe we should ask him!
     
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    For once we'll agree. What player wants to meet Nadal in the quarters at Roland-Garros anyway?
     
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    That doesn't make sense at all.

    Even if Djokovic was to abandon all hope, that he can defeat Nadal at RG (and he clearly isn't), he would still like his chances to meet Nadal in the earlier stages, when Nadal is not at his planned playing maximum, which the players of that rank plan for the second half of the second week of the Majors.

    Same goes for Federer and Murray.
     
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  30. The_Order

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    LOL why you delete your post? Trying to hide how stupid it was?

    There is a substantial difference between 4 and 5 seed and everybody knows that including Federer.

    He doesn't want to play Nadal in the quarters at RG and we all know why. He wants another easy run to the finals to add to his collection.
     
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  31. ivan_the_terrible

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    Maybe Fed? Is it not better for Fed to face him in the quarters when Fed's stamina is a better than if it were later in the tournament?

    This time I'm thinking that it's to Fed's advantage especially since Nadal is coming back from the long layoff and may be vulnerable to an upset as in 2009.
     
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    What I meant is that not only Federer, but many other players. Although I'll also agree with the fact Nadal is more "fragile", less strong in first week than in second weeks, which also has its importance. I only know one player that plays the same first week or second week anyway, that's David Ferrer. So it's not Nadal's fault too, he has to manage his strength for harder matches.
     
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    Why do you care?

    Whether Nadal is ranked #1 or #5, he's going to get a favorable draw, as usual. The draws are rigged.
     
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    What's with all the fuss about Nadal's seeding?

    Does it really matter?

    Look, Nadal is in the legendary pantheon of claycourters so I doubt it matters where he is seeded.
     
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    lol... why would it be difficult for him to talk? he was asked about it, he answered, no?
     
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    Translation: "I don't want to play him in the quarters."

    Seriously though, I'm sure Fed's being honest and actually believes, like many fans and commentators, that Nadal should be seeded higher. But, I'm also sure he doesn't want to play him in the quarters.
     
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  37. beast of mallorca

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    I hope Federer draws Rafa in his quarter, then Djoker in his half. That should open the doors for Murray and Ferrer to be in the finals.
     
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    Easy now 5555. :)
     
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  39. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    He's saying that because he wants to make to at least the semi's at the French.
     
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    Where is that dude ? Missed his "factual opinion"..... Cccccc:twisted:
     
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