Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Virtuous, Sep 29, 2006.
This is a very cool post Virtuous. Seeing the other players from the #1 player in the world's view is pretty enlightening. Fed is a very classy guy, I think even the Rafa fans can see that. Or maybe not.......
trust me, Rafa's fans will think Federer is trying to diss Rafa in any way possible. Then proceed to say Federer sucks, etc etc. They always find something. But I digress.
Great post, thanks. Federer is definitely a class act. People say he's nice and all that, but who cares about that, most people on tour are nice. Fed is different in that it's not all about him (unlike all players who seem to say, "I'm not worried about my opponent, I'll just try to play MY best tennis, ME ME ME.") Federer takes the time to step back and watch and admire all of his peers.
In regards to his comments, I agree with everything he said. This guy is taking it all in, he is truly learning from the guys before him, taking their advice about enjoying the moment seriously.
Federer is the best in da world!!!
Great comments! Thanks for adding them here!
Most players come across as "nice" people IMO and most give their opinion about others if they get asked about it. Federer simply gets asked about it more often than others.
"Rafa's fans" (great sweeping statement! It always increases your credibility to generalize) don't need to comment no longer on this board because Swissv2 will grace us with his/her powers and tell everybody well in advance what "they" think.
Nadal: "I think he's tremendously fit and has that connar's art of never giving up and tracking every single shot, he's one of those players who always tries to retrieve a smash. He's actually a very intelligent player he reads the game well but its his physique that gets more attention. He's also starting to get more confident on surfaces other than clay, he had his best Wimbledon and his best US open this year, so I expect him to push me all the way come 2007."
So now we all agree Fed. didn´t tank the match against Murray. Otherwise you´re being disrespectful to both, some fans were disrespectful to his own idol indeed.
i like what he said about Baghdatis...("I like him alot" ) for the same reasons Baghdatis' fans like him a lot.
And Marat...Marat's never had the right entourage...always seems to be surrrounded by amateurs (except for Lundgren) . I think Safin's problem is that he always thinks he's right and he couldn't stand too much efficiency/knowledge surrounding him. He likes people who listen to him, Too bad..stubborn guy.
do you mean like the 3 blondes in his players box at the aussie open when he lost to johannson?
thanks virtuous, that's very interesting !
he says nice thing about the other players... and it's pleasing to read the admiration he seems to have for marat and marcos
(well i don't like so much the comparision of marcos with courier, which i didn't like... but if it's about playing the way to point for point, i take it !)
Nice comments and spot on, imo!
Though I miss his take on Gasquet and Monfils....
Makes it obvious why he doesn't need a coach, doesn't it. He can analyze AND outthink his opponents himself.
I'll have you know that I'm a Nadal fan and I don't think Federer has ever said one derogatory comment about Nadal. I think that on the court, they play each other like their lives depend on it, and off the court they have a good relationship. Federer doesn't suck. He's a very good player. There- I, a Nadal fan, said it. So you can forget that misconception of yours that all Nadal fans think that Federer sucks right now.
I like the quote Federer gave about Murray about that it would be a disrespect to himself and his opponent if he tanked.
I said in a post way back after that match that I would be surprised if Fed tanked. He respects the game and the fans too much. But there is no doubt that his fatigue really effected his play. He clearly wasn't 100% Roger that match. More like 60%.
I disagree. He was looking forward towards the US OPen and that is a higher priority to be rested and ready than to win that tournament and be even more fatigued. He chose rest.
The question of if he tanked or not is based on assumption.
If he tanked it is a disrespect to the fans who paid good money to watch him perform. It is also a disrespect to the game.
We don't know what Federer's real ambition was. We are not inside his head and therefore must take his word as the truth. Maybe Roger lied during this interview but I will take his word that he did not tank but rather play poorly. I think he has more respect for the game and fans than that.
If he really wanted to rest he would have just simply withdrew from Cincy.
Yes, thanks, Virtuous, for posting Roger's comments. Very interesting to read. He is one classy guy, that's for sure. And smart, too.
Well said, Defcon. His ability to step back and analyze the other players - their game, style, where they're at with their tennis, and where they stand in the tennis world - is very impressive. I found his comments insightful and, as always, respectful to a T.
I nominate him for Chairman of the Board -- he's that good at standing at the top of this sport!!
I had a chance to say Hello to Fed. and grab a picture with him about a year ago. Great Person no doubt. Class act all the way. My prediction is he'll have 18 singles slams under his belt before retiring. I also think he will eventually win the French. There will probably be a year where Rafa is injured, or he may beat him.
I would love to say Hello to Fed one day. If I could chat with him for a few minutes, that would be a big thrill. To me, he's such a class act and an inspiration.
Why you think so?...Well so this is how and what he thinks of those players including Rafa...well well that's cool and thanks Virtuous for translating them into English and sharing them here
Yes we never know if he plays 100% at that time or not for instance only God knows... That's why I think Murray should try to beat him during the USO where he is sure to play 100%. :neutral:
Roger observations on each player is right now. Much like what we have been talking about for the couple 1000 posts.
I didn't translate it, credit to some swiss guy on the bbc messageboard
Again thank you for this and I also enjoy the inputs in this Thread so far. Like Roger, Love Roger's Game, Class Act, Great Ambassador of the Sport, Role Model but just like Andre Agassi who always speaks highly of the other Players, what do we really think they are going to say? I mean does anyone really expect Rogers' going to go on the air telling people this guy sucks or that guy is an a-hole?
There's no way we are hearing what any Professional Athlete really thinks about their opponents. Especially in this Sport.
I believe there are some on this Forum that have claimed to have personal relationships with Players. They would probably know who gets along with who. I recall just a couple of years ago, it was reported that Lleyton Hewitt wasn't well liked by his fellow Players. That he was disliked by more than liked him. But if that were true and on air some Player was asked, who didn't have to explain a certain incident that occurred, he would most likely say, "Oh Llyeton is a great guy and lots of fun, great competitor blah blah blah" Heck John McEnroe & Jimmy Connors hated each other but John always apeaks highly of Connors when doing onAir commentating.
His comments about Marat seem personal as if he's very comfortable with him.
His comments about Rafa are tactical analysis & prediction, nothing about them or how they relate, nothing more than what we talk about here.
His comments about Nalby, he calls him David, as indicative of one friend to another.
His comments about Roddick are again analysis of what is evident nothing personal only that he's not necessarily agreeing that his new found confidence is becuz of Connors.
His comment about JB is giving JB a lot of credit for the ordeal JB went through and respects his fighting spirit. Heard it before.
His comment about Andy Murray, I think if those are his words, then he really likes Andy and believes he's going to be a force in the future. We all know if Roger was 100% he would have won but doesn't matter. Roger claimed he didn't tank and I don't think he did either but
is kinda like saying if I wasn't tired Andy would not have won. Which does kinda take away the sparkle.
And about Baghdatis, his statement says it all, "I like him alot" that's not PR because it wasn't necessary to say. Sounds like it came from his heart about Baghman and I personally agree with that because I think he's great fun to watch.
People always say Fed is very articulate. That is because he thinks very clearly. People say this about great writers too, they write very well because they think very clearly.
Language is really window to the mind, when it is all clear inside, it is reflected outside.
It is a pity people who in the know hold Fed to such esteem, but the public can't really appreciate him enough in the States. To an average Joe, he is classical music. What sell are sleaze, cheap spectacle, and shameless hustle. They say the States is a cultural wasteland, have they no reason? But I digress.
Quick, what time is Poker on TV?
I don't know what "tank" means to Roger but during the interview after the lost, he did say that the number of matches he played the last several days had an effect on his physical condition.
Anyway, he's indeed class act for giving credit to Murray.
so thanks for sharing it here
a total two faced phony.praises player one minute calls them cheaters the next...
horrah, an idiot troller.
For those that respect BOTH Nadal and Federer, I - in turn - respect you guys. For those of you that are like Roger_is_Boring, go back to your monkey cage. *throws a bone*
He doesn't want respect, he just wants attention. Pitiful.
This opinion of Fed on different players told me nothing. He simply told good words in all adresses and no single bad opinion on anybody. It is joke.
This is my opinion ( think behalf of Federer):
1. Safin. Was born very tall and strong physically, his height doesn't allow him to play low strokes and near net. One of most untalented players who anyhow won 2 slams. There are not players anymore to whom Safin didn't lose at least once. Non-serious player having no brain. And what is more important - was OVERRATED mostly by Americans because of accidental defeat of Sampras in 2000 USO. I see no future for Safin in ATP anymore. Despite his strokes -especially left- is really good.
2. Rafa. Great player, great physical condition and feeling of the game. Main threat for Fed in 2007.
3. Nalbandian. Not serious even comment. The player who accidentally won Masters Cup but never won single Masters Series tournament, something like Corretja in 1996. Anybody heard about ? Nalb is a player with absolute absence of any talent, he reached good strokes and sometimes even very good strokes thanks to hard work. It is main reason why he never won GS and never will be able.
4. Roddick. Great character with great serve but unfortunately without tennis, he wasn't educated in time to play tennis from left half of the court and this creates for him extra difficultness today. I think he never will reach good techniques because - unfortunately - it is LATE.
5. Blake. Good man. Nothing more. No single ATP Masters tournament victory. Why to talk about ?
6. Murray. He doesn't look as a sportsman, rather as a computer student. I don't believe in his future.
7. Baghdatis. Great boy, very funny and always smiling, I think he has good reputation among players and spectators. He is smiling always, and probably just this fact, absence of absolute concentration and serious approach to every point, absence of nervousness doesn't let him to achive great results. He must have big future.
I said right after it happened that I don't think Roger tanked, but I don't think he dug deep for that little bit of extra that the great ones have to win. Champions are able to dig deep in clutch situations and produce things their opponents can't. That is the difference between good players and great players. I really feel that Fed is taking the Tiger Woods approach and setting his schedule to peak at the slams. He's not playing the tour now he's playing for his place in history.
I vote for you to take over from IMG as Roger's management company.
You left out some low hanging fruit.
He should've said, about James Blake. "Not much of a player but Im doing his girl. The same goes for Baggy."
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