Roland Garros's Final: Kudos to the crowd!!

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  1. ErwinFromParis

    ErwinFromParis Rookie

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    I do believe that the crowd had played a major role in this intriguing FO final yesterday.
    The crucial shifting point of the final was at 3-3 in the 3rd set, the fabulous ambiance in the court to support Gaudio finally broke up his nervousness, during the 'ola' he was making kudos towards the crowd feeling less contracted, catching this way the crowd in his side...Coria attempt to imitate him but it was sounding false... Then Coria was becoming more and more nervous and Gaudio was playing liberate, launching big big backhands strokes in impossible angles. That was for me the best part of the Final, the 2 opponents played well together.
    In the 4th, was a nervous breakdown for Coria, after leading 2 sets and 4-2 in the 3rd (like McEnroe vs Lendl... ^-^), he felt so nervous that he'd started devellopping nervous cramps, the fact is he couldnot support the stress of passing from the title for 2 games... On the French TV, Basholt the ATP Kinesi therapist said it was Nervous Cramp so he gave him medicals that would be active one hour after... That's why he didn't play the 4th set.
    The crowd in Roland G. always plays a major role in matches especially in Final. Remember (Steffi vs Hingis; Agassi vs Medvedev; Kuerten vs Russel...)
    That and the fact it is the hardest tournament for the physics make FO a so special and so surprising Grand Slam!
     
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  2. Cypo

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    Completely disagree :) ! I really don't care about how well players handle the pressure of a crowd, and I regret it when that becomes a factor, especially a deciding factor, in a match. I'm glad that Gaudio won, although I like Coria very much as well, but the reason why he won had more to do with personalities, and the ability to stand on stage and be the star of a show, than it did with tennis.

    And then there is the question of how much is too much, and how much is OK. I hope everyone would agree that a spectator calling a ball out is too much, as happened in Roddick vrs. Nalbandian last year at the US Open, but in the spectrum from spectators applauding well made shots, making a wave, applauding double faults, booing to calling the lines, it's pretty difficult to draw a line and say this is OK, that not, so the clearest distinction is to limit crowd participation to applauding good shots.

    The third point is that when spectators are appreciating the tennis and not joining in the match, the best tennis gets played.
     
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  3. Camilio Pascual

    Camilio Pascual Hall of Fame

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    I agree with Cypo's feelings, but dem bums in the crowds pays the bills and they can be as intrusive and unfair as they want. As they were with Serena last year when she made valid requests on lines calls. Ain't fair, but the fans don't have to be fair.
    The "wave" was the turning point and turned a rout into a memorable match.
     
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  4. pound cat

    pound cat G.O.A.T.

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    For spectators I don't see the difference between enjoying hockey and enjoying tennis. Go to a hockey game (or soccer) and see how many spectators clap politely. (Yes, they yell at good play, not only a fight) The 10.500 people at the RG final want to interact with the players, do the wave, give standing o's (and shout player's names if you can believe it) & have fun. This isn't tennis in the 1930's and anyone who is bent on seeing its demise should should eject all noisy fans. Yes, I believe the crowd helped Gaudio, and he acknowledged them (just like a normal person should) GOOD. I loved this match because it was fun to watch & had asome moments of good (not great) tennis. This is 2004 tennis, enjoy it.
     
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  5. Cypo

    Cypo Rookie

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    At some point it will cease to be tennis though won't it ? The influence of the crowd is detrimental to the quality of play. Drama aside, the fifth set was pathetic - especially from Gaudio. As a change, a soap opera is interesting (and I cried with them), but for every match after the round of 16 ?

    If the crowds continue to get louder each year, then tennis should probably switch to a team modus (which might have additional benefits anyway, like you would know who you would see when you bought your ticket).

    I can't help wondering (and this is in no way intended to qualify anyones opinion) if people who play competitively prefer the "1930's tennis" spectators, and people who play 'socially' for lack of a better term, prefer the audience participation. It'd be interesting if others post opinions here if they added whether they ply competitive or socially (or not at all - you don't have to play to enjoy watching).

    Pound cat - do we agree that while throwing things (beer cans etc.) on the field or ice might be somehow in the spirit of thing for hockey and soccer, it would definitely be grounds for a let in tennis ?
     
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  6. david aames

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    I'm usually on the conservative side on the matter finding David Cup crowds obnoxious. Drums, bells, whistles and stupid hats are distracting and plain ugly but I have to say that I enjoy when the crowd has its say and push the player's mental limits. It's cheap entertainment but after all, tennis is only a game.
     
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  7. pound cat

    pound cat G.O.A.T.

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    Remember the time in DC when Gonzalez was hit on the head by a water bottle in Argentina (Brazil?) I say throw the unruly spectators in jail & equip DC tennis players with face masks & hard hats & maybe slingshots to defend themselves. . Now that would be interesting tennis & would definitely draw big crowds. (Listen up, WTA) LOL
     
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