Role of the shoulders on the One Handed backhand?

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Professional

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    Hi again guys, i am looking for the role of the shoulders in both the topspin and slice one hander. The way i see it now is

    1. They rotate fully, to where the opposition would be able to see the back of your front shoulder.
    2. They then rotate and your front shoulder points pretty much at the net, at which point rotation stops. The backward movement of the non hitting arm near contact helps this i think.
    3. The shouldrs then pretty much play a passive role except for possibly easing around at the finish of the stroke after the ball has gone.

    Is my take close to correct guys?
     
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  2. C_Urala

    C_Urala Semi-Pro

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    I'm not an expert, but I'd agree on 1 and 2. No 3 puts me on guard because of the 'passive role'. I'm not sure what you mean.

    I would add that the amount of the shoulder turn before the contact would differ depending on the situation. My key point is to meet the ball in front of the leading knee (I'm right handed). And to put weight into the shot.
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

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    Ok sorry, i meant that after turning parallel to the sidelines (Step 2) they stop opening and stay fixed. It seems to be a key on the one hander, while the two hander is treated as a second forehand and the shoulders are encouraged to keep turning thru the shot. You are supposed to stay sideways thru the one hander i think. I am just trying to make sure my take is correct :)
     
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  4. C_Urala

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    then I agree on 3 as well.
    The only addition is when you're trying to hit on the run. Then, you have to open your shoulders more. Maybe, it's an after-effect, but it seems this way.
     
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  5. Bungalo Bill

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    I think you got the basic stuff here is Haas deomonstrating what your talking about. I think preparation is the most important point in the shoulder turn. In other words, turning early as possible:

    Go here to see a variety of backhands: Notice the shoulders, footwork, early preparation, how still the head is, and full rotation is well after the ball is going and is used solely for recovery not hitting the ball.

    http://www.uspta.com/index.cfm/aol/1/MenuItemID/1103/MenuSubID/126.htm

    Another place that might help you is here:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/hi/sa/tennis/skills/newsid_2061000/2061499.stm
     
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  6. Cypo

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    The topic only asked for the role of the shoulders - but for me at least, it's dangerous to isolate the shoulder from the hips on the OHBH. The hitting arm hip should also be pointed at the net (even the buttock).
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Thanks guys. I'm pretty sure you posted that site in the archives Bill and the clips are great. Many thanks :)

    Are you talking of impact or backswing Cypo? I always thought the hips were more open than the shoulders at impact.
     
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  8. Robert Jones

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    I had to think about it. My weakest stroke has always been my forehand. I have natural one hander backhand. But I think what you said is pretty much true. I think thats why its my better side, I don't ever think about what I am doing vs the forehand which can get wild on me.

    It feels like I'm throwing frisbee at a 30 degree angle when I hit a backhand. I'm pretty sure after impact my arm just swings free and the momentum pulls my rt shoulder so I end up facing the net.

    Try to throw a frisbee with all arm, its not as easy. Coil up and untwist. I have a harder time applying that to the forehand side. I can hit off my back foot, closed stance open stance etc. I need more discipline on that shot.
     
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