Rolled my Ankle... OUCH!!!

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  1. Bud

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    Playing tennis today, going for a ball then changed direction too quickly... felt the ankle collapse, heard it pop and ended up lying on my back. I think it's lightly sprained :eek:

    I iced it immediately at the court, came home sprayed some DMSO on the entire ankle/foot, iced it again then elevated the foot. Took some Ibuprofen and a Tylenol to quell the throbbing.

    Right now, it's feeling pretty good... although it feels slightly weak and pops a bit when walking or placing weight on it. I think I iced it in time, as the swelling is minimal.

    I'll ice it throughout the day and then wrap the ankle in a compression bandage, later this evening.

    Any other advice? :confused:
     
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    Ouch! Sorry to hear about that Bud.

    You might want to see your physician just to be safe.

    r,
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  3. sboo

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    Rest up. Despite how it feels, wait a few days to 'test it'. I have started to wear a brace on my left ankle after spraining it a few times a summer...so far so good.
     
  4. NoNameZ

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    From what I learned from other sports, you would refer to R.I.C.E.
    Rest
    Ice
    Compress
    Elevate

    You could try that, and let us know how it goes.

    Get better!! we need your reviews!
     
  5. charliefedererer

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    Since you're a go-getter it will be hard to stay off it, but the least amount of walking on it and the more time you keep it elevated with ice the better. Don't wait for significant swelling before putting that ace wrap on; put it on beween times applying the ice.
    I don't like the sound of "it pops a bit when walking". It may be worthwhile getting it checked out sooner than later.
    Good luck.
     
  6. Bud

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    Update...

    Thanks for all the support and recommendations :)

    After more DMSO, ice and rest... it's definitely feeling better. I elevated it and took a nap. The swelling is minimal but I notice a bruise starting to form directly on my angle bone. When I lightly press it, that's definitely where the injury occurred. It appears some tendon or ligament attachment was slightly injured at that location.

    It may be time to consider playing with ankle braces or wrap.
     
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    Yeah, consider buying a pair of those ASO braces---they get rave reviews here.
    Since we're not getting any younger, and Nike isn't making many 3/4 midcut shoes anymore (not that they helped), I think it's time for me to buy some ASOs to save my ankles....
     
  8. El Diablo

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    Inflammation brings increased amounts of phagocytes that clean up tissue debris from the injury, white cells that help prevent cellulitis (soft tissue infection) from occuring, and increased circulation (source of the heat and redness, though not the bruise) that promote healing. These are good things. So why do you take steps after the injury to reduce the inflammation??
     
  9. Bud

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    I sprained my right ankle badly (Type III sprain) in 1991 from a poor skydive landing. I never iced it and the doctor told me that caused much of the residual damage. When tissues swells, it also destroys and damages other tissue adjacent to the injury.

    Always best to immediately ice the area to prevent the swelling that damages other surrounding tissue.

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    Will definitely look into the ASO brace. At 41, I should start being more careful with my body... using preventive measures when possible.
     
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    I've sprained my ankle twice and my wrist once. The ankle injuries took six to eight weeks to heal completely. A good chunk of that time was reinjury. Same with the wrist.
     
  13. Bud

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    I really appreciate others sharing their experience so I can choose how to proceed from this point. Luckily, the tennis 'season' is coming to an end. I'll definitely take some time off, nursing it and strengthening it so I don't re-injure it.

    Definitely using ankle braces from now on and also make sure my shoes are tightly laced prior to playing. I wear Adidas Barricade V's (been using the Barricades for 2+ years)... and this is the first time I've rolled my ankle wearing them.
     
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    Inflammation is the enemy.

    Don't know about the Tylenol/Advil cocktail, though. I just go with a prescription dose of Advil (800 mg), which gives me plenty of pain relief . . . .

    I find Tylenol scary. I am rather fond of my liver and am set on keeping it.
     
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    ooo

    happened once to me... you'd better be careful with it... RIGHT after, it won't feel that bad... but after a few days... oooooooooooh
     
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    Bud - I did the exact same thing as you and heard the same pop and just dropped to the ground. Mine bruised in the same location as yours and eventually went further down to heel area. I ice it and kept off of it for a good few days. It took me a good 3 weeks before I was able to play tennis again but still had some pain that time. At this point I play with a lace up brace that slides on over my sock and completely covers my foot, ankle and part way up my shin. I have been wearing this now for close to a year and actually for my first mens practice on tuesday didn't wear the brace and all felt good!!

    Good luck and rest!!
     
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    Do you wear the ASO brace, Todd? I'm thinking of buying a pair and just wearing them to prevent any ankle rolls in the future.
     
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    BTW, what are the best shoes to prevent rolling the ankle? The Barricades seem pretty stable and this is the first time since wearing them that they've rolled.

    In defense of the Barricades, I did change direction too quickly. I need to reposition my feet differently when I do this.
     
  19. charliefedererer

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    I'm not sure that you are going to find a better shoe than the Barricades. No shoe, including the 3/4 models, really provides actual support at the ankle level. The Barricades should provide good stability so the foot isn't rolling in the shoe. The ASO ankle braces seem the way to go to prevent ankle rolling.
    I hope you heal quickly, but thanks for the lesson in a reasonable approach to an inury with your post.
     
  20. Frankauc

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    recently, i rolled my ankle for the first time in 10years+ playing tennis, then i rolled it again 2 weeks later.......

    i bought aso ankle brace for prevention now. And i dont think it will happen anymore.

    aso ankle brace is the way to go......unless you want to roll your ankle times and times...
     
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    I highly recommend you go get it looked at by a Dr. When a person hears an audible pop that is usually not a good sign, as well as the bruising, usually indicates some ligament damage.
    Be sure to take care of it, and make sure that after the initial healing is done, you find out how to rehab the ankle to regain ankle strength that has been lost (usually a regimen of band work). MD's, PT's, and Chiro's will have some kind of band workout that they can help you with to make sure that you regain as much function as possible. The goal is to strengthen the musculature to make a stable joint and not become dependent on the brace (unfortunately, I found this out too late and I am stuck with the braces).

    I have had ankle problems for as long as I can remember, I chose to go with the McDavid brace, same thing as the ASO and significantly cheaper (has the figure 8 strap and the same lacing system as the ASO, think I got 2 for the price of 1 ASO, and don't have any complaints about them).

    Good luck, and getter well soon!
     
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    I'd suggest buying a sports band and doing some PT on the muscles surrounding your ankle. I've torn my left ankle ligaments twice from playing soccer and it's been very effective. It builds strength and is a good preventative measure.

    Also as suggested an ankle brace might be a good solution as well as that would support and prevent you from rolling your ankle in the future.
     
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    I've played soccer and tennis my whole life. Always had to wear ankle braces (ASOs are the best). Got back into tennis 3 years ago. Thaught I didn't have to wear my ankle braces anymore until I rolled my left ankle on clay. I was sliding and my left foot hit the line tape and it rolled. Heard a pop. I ended up braking my metatarsal bone. Actually lucky it wasn't a ligament. I was out 6-8 weeks. I NEVER forget to wear my braces anymore. I don't even know I have them on anymore. Its a part of my equipment now. Good Luck! Hope you heal quickly!
     
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    Thanks for all the great feedback :)

    I'm definitely going with dual ankle braces from now on... either the ASO or McDavid brace.

    As for the ankle, I've been continually massaging, icing and rubbing the DMSO into it a few times a day. It actually feels much better today and the minor swelling has decreased noticeably. The bruising has also started disappearing.

    In addition, I don't see a bunch of dead red blood cells at the base of my foot, below the ankle (as I did the day after the skydiving mishap)... so I think I probably dodged a bullet.
     
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    ASO Ankle Brace

    Ended up ordering a couple of these from TW after some major research and combing through feedback on many websites...

    [​IMG]

    BTW, that's not my foot :mrgreen:
     
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    Update...

    Received my ASO braces and have been wearing them around the house... to loosen them up a bit.

    They definitely add ankle support and are very comfortable. It's important to read the directions before putting them on... as adjusting them correctly is very important.

    It will be a week tomorrow since I sprained my ankle and I'll be playing some relaxed doubles on Friday to test them out on court.

    I wear two pairs of socks with them as it hides them well for those who don't care for the look of wearing an ankle brace. Just wear them over one pair of socks and under the second pair. Even with 2 pairs of socks, they fit fine into my Barricades.
     
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    As an update to this... I now see some dead blood cells (or other tissue) that settled, via gravity, to the bottom of my left foot. They form a dark horizontal line along the bottom of the foot. I assume, based on the color, they are blood cells.
     
  28. charliefedererer

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    That's exactly what you are seeing, why you are seeing it, and it's not that unusual.
     
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    I had a class II sprain in my right ankle, suffered playing tennis. It took me about 4 months to get back on court moving normally with a brace on. I started working with a personal trainer shortly after that to strengthen the ankle and stopped wearing the brace at about the 8 month point (better to eventually shed the brace to allow the muscles to develop). Probably took 12 months to get it back to the point where I no longer worry about it (maybe less but my mind wouldn't let it go).

    --> Strongly recommend the use of a bosu ball in various balance-oriented exercises to help build up those small muscles around the ankle.
     
  30. Bud

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    After wearing the braces on both ankles... I can't see how they would prevent muscle from developing. You can move the ankle/foot around it's full range of motion... it just prevents it from rolling... which happens in extreme situations.
     
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    I think it depends on the brace. I can't remember what model I was wearing but it was pruchased from an orthopedist and strapped up pretty firmly. I do recall feeling more muscle fatigue in my foot the first week after I stopped wearing it so I think there is definitely something to his recommendation.
     
  32. Fedace

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    LOOK at what happened to Sabine Lizky just now... it looks like HORRIBLE ankle sprain on match point to lose the match. Bone could be sticking out................... OUCH.
     
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    Ewww... that's alot worse than a sprain :shock:

    Was it match point for Lisicki?
     
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    Fractured ankle was reported (against our new found Aussie w heroine!) as it says
    "She had also fractured her ankle, rolling around the baseline, crying, writhing in agony."
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/tennis/rocket-rodi-is-good-enough-for-us/2009/09/04/1252001246536.html

    Good advice with the bosu ball.

    I wore the ASO brace for about 2 years. Recently have tended to forget it in social tennis. If I'm competing hard then on it goes. If yr older you will find it takes some time to come good, I mean to be able to fully depend upon it. Happy hitting.

    ps. I've heard a sort of "crunch" sound when going over. The audability of that does not nec mean a worse injury. But prob it does mean that it is a significant sprain.
     
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    Update...

    After a bit over 2 weeks, the ankle is back to about 75% or so. It no longer actively hurts when walking normally. It will start hurting if I lightly stretch it a bit too far as I try to restore full range of motion.

    While playing tennis on Thursday... I notice that even slight torquing (think chubby checker and the twist type of motion) irritates it... so have to be careful there, too.

    However, I now wear ankle braces on both ankles and I feel much more confident, when out on court, that I won't roll it again.

    I think icing the ankle immediately was the most beneficial action I took after it occurred. The daily DMSO rubs also helped immensely, IMO.
     
  36. AlexTennisAllDayLong

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    yeah same happen to me this last weekend, stupid Adidas Pulse are all sticky as heck right now. Doc said its sprained ankle and i should have ankle brace for rest of my life because it will be easy to hurt it again. :shock:
     
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    I also had a sprained ankle about three weeks ago. It wasn't that sever though (I think it's a grade II sprain based on the diagram above, but I didn't see any obvious bruise), but it's still hurt until now especially when I am running and try to change direction to the opposite way. Also, it hurts if I bent my feet when serving.
    Considering it's only type II (or maybe type I), it should not take more than a month to recover, right?
    Is it okay if I am still doing tennis routines 3-4 times a week (drills only) as long as I am not pushing my feet too hard?
    Thanks
     
  38. Leelord337

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    this just happened to me last night on my left foot, i went to the dr. today and had an xray done, the two back ligaments are okay but i did tear the one ligament on the side of the foot, I can't walk very well and its very depressing being immobile, i'm going to have to find something else to do to stay in shape instead of play tennis...

    also 1 question, how long does it usually take for a sprained ankle to heal? 'n btw bud i heard that popping sound too when i rolled mine, talk about scary

    thats reassuring to hear, so i might be on the court in a few weeks for doubles at least, w/ankle braces of course. do you know if you did a type 1, 2, or 3 sprain? mine has to be a 2, i should've asked my doctor for more details about the xray...
     
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    That Sucks Bud
    What shoes did you have on the time of the roll?
    It took me almost a full year to get the confidence back to go all out again on tough gets.That's going to be you're biggest fear when you do hit again.Take care bud,
    Certain tennis shoes are deadly for rolling in.
     
  40. Bud

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    Adidas Barricade V's... which are really stable and excellent shoes. It's the first time I've rolled my ankle in them. I still wear them, BTW.

    I just wear the ankle braces now. They give me more confidence, too... it's even hard to roll the ankle intentionally with them on. If you pull them off then try to roll then ankle (standing stationary)... it's very easy.
     
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    Definitely give the ASO ankle braces a try. I was out playing some easy doubles about 10 days after rolling it, while using them (and no issues - even though the ankle was still obviously weak). The only time my ankle hurts now is when I gently stretch it... as I try and regain any lost range of motion.

    Based on the sprain I received back in 1990 on my right ankle (type 3 - based on x-rays)... I'm guessing it was a type II. Even after icing it immediately and for at least 2-3 hours after... it was swollen for a couple weeks. It also bruised directly on the ankle bone. In addition, I ended up with the dark purple horizontal line at the bottom of my foot (which indicates a moderate degree of damage).

    It feels pretty good now. It's not weak when walking, no longer hurts... and no longer cracks and pops with weight on it. It appears to be healing nicely.
     
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    That's too bad. Hope you feel better soon.
     
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    i hope you feel better too bud, so now you're hitting the courts andy roddick style w/the ankle braces, thx for the reassuring words too. btw no luv for me cc i'm in pain here too :oops:
     
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    Sorry there Lee, I didn't read the thread. I very much hope you feel better soon as well. :)
     
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    thx cc, *feels better, hugs back*( but maybe from this pain medicine too) yeah i rolled it last night for the 1st time in a very competitive singles match. First injury i've had in playing tennis for 7 years. so learn from bud and i 'n be careful playing the battle of the sex matches w/mav ;)
     
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    ok i sprained my ankle while i was in a tennis camp and i was fortunate enough to have received help from one of croatia's best orthopeadistsand unbelievable a severe ankle sprain was healed in like 7 days and in less than 2 weeks i was already capable of practising with full intensitythis is what he and other specialists told me1) ice the ankle few times 20 minutes in the 1st few days then in next 3 or so months ice once a day - 20 min2) rest it for 48 hours3) then start exercising it, move it slightly up, down, left, right as much as you can (take painkillers if u need to)4) walk as soon as you can and as much as you can5) 4 times a day x 15-20 minutes lie on the bed and keep ur ankle above ur heart to make the swelling disappear6) use some pain-killing oil or something and put it on ur ankle (read the instruction from the drug store) + something against the bruises (also read the instruction)7) massage several times a day x 20 minutesand after that buy some bandage or something that would stay keep ur ankle "in piece" and play with itand after about 10 days u can play matchesi hope this was helpful
     
  47. Bud

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    That's pretty much what I did... and I was playing light doubles after 8 days. I played my first mildly competitive singles match after 2 weeks. It will be 3 weeks on Thursday... and it's feeling really good.
     
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    hey bud i'm going to end up buying two aso braces as well, i just accidentally rolled my ankle again i had rolled on monday trying to get the mower out of the shed to mow the back lawn *bad idea*.

    I was going to ask what size you got? i'm an 11.5 shoe size and the chart says that 11.5-13 to get a large but i was wondering if they run large or small etc... thx
     
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    I've had a very mild ankle sprain tripping on a ball behind me about 3 years back and luckily it heals quickly. I bought a pair of McDavid braces (very similar to ASO) with the intention of wearing them to prevent ankle roll in the future, but never got around to, since my ankle healed back to 100% quickly even before my braces order arrived in the mail.

    Anyway, I guess the question I have it should I wear them anyway as a prevention measure even if I'm 100% fine, since I already have them? Or should I wait until something happens before I use them? After all, it's not like they fit in your shoes like a glove. They are a little bulky to wear in your regular size shoes unless you go to a little bit bigger size. And you don't see everyone wearing them for insurance, except for maybe those who've had ankle injury before and want to prevent it from happening again.

    Is there anyone out there who wears them eventhough they never had ankle injury before?
     
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    After rolling an ankle badly I wore an ASO for about a year -- fearful to do it again. If you have the time to do some ankle strengthening exercises you will likely be able to remove it eventually -- depends upon how aggressively you play. Andy Roddick and Sam Querrey both wear support on both ankles every time they step out for a match -- I talked with Sam about them in Newport this summer. He said he likes the extra support and peace of mind.
     

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