Rome Draw - Brutal Half for Federer !

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  1. goforgold99

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  2. zagor

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    Canas will be hard but Mathieu is a mental flake(even if he is a very good player),Gasquet hasn't beaten Federer since 2005 and Roger owns Ferrer.As for Nalbandian or Djokovic,he beat both of them in Monte Carlo.I think Federer can reach the final here,however nothing is sure with Roger this days although he was playing some great tennis in Monte Carlo so I hope he gains points here.
     
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  3. Zaragoza

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    What is brutal? Cañas just lost in straight sets to Robredo, he is not in good form this year. Mathieu and Starace are not particularly tough for a 3rd round of a MS.
    Ferrer has never troubled Federer and he will be tired after Barcelona. Gasquet? What has he done on clay lately?
    If Federer plays at his usual level his first serious test would be in the SF. If he doesn´t, then anything can happen but it won´t be because his draw was particularly hard.
     
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    The draw is tough, and doesn't really get much tougher. Still, Fed is Fed and favourite to reach the final in that half.. But I can't really imagine a muh tougher one. Maybe MC was tougher, but that one looked especially tough because of the way Roger played in those earlier rounds and Estoril.
    We'll see, if Roger's trying to be a real competitor at Roland Garros, he should be able to reach the final here. (tough Volandri beat him here last year, if I'm not mistakin)

    I just hope that at the FO, Roger's gonna have the easiest draw ever (Karlovic, Roddick, as the seeds in his half please) won't lose a set on his way to the final, and meets an exhausted Nadal there. Rome isn't the goal, it's just a small step.
     
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  5. Forehand Forever

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    Even if those are the seeds for Roger, does anyone really expect Roddick to make it past the 2nd round?
     
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    No, but it means there's no Ferrer or Nalbandian in his draw, so I'll take Roddick..;)I'm surely not expecting roddick in the FO quarters.
     
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  7. flyer

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    Alright guy lets hear about how tough Federer's draw is!!!....
     
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  8. Aabye

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    I'm guessing somebody will be cheering for Nadal to win the doubles with Robredo again. :)

    That's a tough draw if it pans like that for sure, but Fed comes through again if he plays like he did at Monte Carlo where he had to play BOTH Djokovic and Nalbandian. The potential Djokovic-Federer clash should be more interesting than last time though, now that the kid has had some time off.
     
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  9. joeri888

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    Didn't the kid have some time off between his first round loss in Miami and his matches in Monte Carlo?

    Roger's draw is toguh, but so is Ferrer's of course, as well as Nalbandian's, Djokovic's. But they could consider themselves lucky not to face Nadal earlier than the final.
     
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  10. jmsx521

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    On my Racket-Bracket I actually picked Canas to beat Federer. I'd say 5-7 7-5 7-6... an epic 2nd round match (full of blisters on the feet and hands)!
     
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    Top half is definitely tougher than the bottom, but Novak's quarter is the toughest.
    No reason for Fed funs to cry already.
     
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  12. federerfanatic

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    I agree. There is nothing that tough about the draw.
     
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  13. Aabye

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    Yeah, that's true. But that was from hardcourts to clay. Now he should be more acclimated to the surface. And with that in mind, along with his week off I going to hope his asthma doesn't act up.
     
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  14. Nadal_Freak

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    Luckily for Fed, there is always Hamburg to play to make up for it if he loses early here. Worst case scenario is Fed exhausts himself before the French Open so maybe losing early might help him if he plans to play Hamburg regardless.
     
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  15. RoddickistheMan

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    IMO draw isnt that bad until the semis, Canas isnt playing great tennis at the moment, matheiu is a mental flake, federer owns ferrer Gasquet is a mental flake as well. DJokovic is feds main concern as it will be interesting to see how this match up will fare on clay.
     
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  16. dh003i

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    Fed's draw is tougher than Nadal's.
     
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    Yep another brutal draw. These Master Series really make it difficult. :D
     
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  18. Babb

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    Fed's draw is a test to see if he is worthy of facing the king ;)
     
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    Oh my!! He is actually playing top players??? :roll:

    What do you expect?? For Fed to play guys in college the first few rounds???
     
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  20. dh003i

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    Nadal_Freak,

    If that's supposed to prove some point, it doesn't.
     
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    Nadal almost always gets cakewalk draws. Not that it matters much now since its clay.
     
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  22. bangchu

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    Are you one of those chump Nadal fans who claimed Nadal's draw at Monte Carlo was so tough? So double standard. This unfortunately shows what kind of person most Nadal fans are.
     
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  23. Nadal_Freak

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    You know this board is ******* city when Zaragoza is called a chump. Fed fans want all the glory and anytime someone mentions something is not what exactly another Fed fan thinks, they are given a hard time. Toughen up Fed fans.
     
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  24. Lotto

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    I can see Fed walking through to the final. Don't worry Fed Fanatics, Djokovic or Nalbandian won't stop him and the up to the SF is a joke, for Fed like, maybe not for your average pro but for Roger it is.
     
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  25. joeri888

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    Please shut up, Zaragoza is a Nadal fan, but he (mostly) explains his opinion, backs it up with facts, and doesn't call people that disagree chumps all the time.

    I agree with him that Nadal's draw was tough, but since it's clay it looked like Ferrer and Davydenko weren't tough, while one of them made the estoril final and the other the Barcelona final, so their pretty good on clay.
     
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  26. WhiskeyEE

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    I really don't like how they put the 3rd seed with the 1 seed... that should never happen. If you're number 1 seed you should get the luxury of playing the worse players compared to the number 2 seed.
     
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    Than Nadal should be #1 seed on clay tournaments.

    The draw is fine the way it is.
     
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  28. Nadal_Freak

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    I disagree. I prefer to see different matchups each tournament. Makes the game more interesting. I think they should alternate it though for each big tournament rather than random.
     
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  29. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    This Federer and Nadal fan crap is getting a little old; don't you guys get tired of arguing about the same thing over and over again, under different threads? :roll:
     
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  30. ClubHoUno

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    I just know that I love to watch Rafa on clay and Fed on grass and HC :D

    I'm a Fed & Rafa fan :lol:
     
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    But it wouldn't be the #1 TTW rivalry if these guys weren't so irrational about it. :)
     
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  32. The-Champ

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    Fed should be put in Nadal's half in every clay tournament, in that way fed will never reach another clay final in his life :)
     
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  33. DarthMaul

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    That's a hell a lot of hard practice for Fed before the final. If he gets to the final, Nadal will have a hard fight from Fed.
     
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  34. dh003i

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    I like the way the draw is in theory, set up to provide maximum likelihood the best players will get to the QF, SF, and F.
     
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    It´s ok, I don´t want to add more fuel. Others replied for me, even some Federer fan. Thanks.
     
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  36. Arrows

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    OP: Mathieu? I don't think so.

    Federer will be fine taking on [3] or [7]; MC was less than 2 weeks ago. Provided [3] and [7] don't annihilate each other in the quarters, first. Blood-bath Q-F between Djokovic and Nalbandian? Yeah, can't wait.



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  37. bangchu

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    Shut up what? Do you even understand what my post implied? I don't think Nadal's draw at Monte Carlo is any tougher than Federer's at Rome. If Zaragoza did open his mouth and say Nadal's draw was brutal then he deserved to be called a chump. Otherwise he is not. I just simply asked that if he is one of those chumps since we all know how bad most Nadal fans can be. My post might sound negative but I think it is correct way to deal with the majority of people here. If you have the power to stuck it up and be nice all the time, then kudos to you.
     
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  38. bangchu

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    Then may be this city does not welcome chump Nadal's fan like u. You can always shut up and disappear.
     
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  39. Zaragoza

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    He was really lucky in Indian Wells and Miami. If he had played Blake, Berdych or Tsonga he wouldn´t have reached the final/semifinal. Ok,I hope it´s enough with the double standards.
     
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  40. scineram

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    Did he not beat Blake twice there?
     
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    Zaragoza is one of the most serious and knowledgeable people on this board. Your remark is grossly out of place here.
     
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    Its called sarcasm.
     
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  44. Serpententacle

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    Wow... the excuses are being premeditated now for Fed? What's up with that? Have a little confidence in your champion Don't whine.

    Now it's full-poof for the Fetid-turds. If Fed wins, they can cry with exaltation that he won with a "brutal half"... but if he loses they will cry with lamentation that the draw was too "brutal"... come on. You guys are becoming pathetic.

    Federer has just as much a chance in winning the French Open as anyone else. And all of you know it. So don't wet your pants at the draw.
     
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  45. deme08

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    I agree. Nadal did not have a tough draw at Monte Carlo and his draw in Rome is a joke with Djokovic, Nalbandian, Ferrer and Andreev all on Fed's half. (Although I do believe Fed should beat those guys no problem) But guess whos on Nadal's half? That's right, Andy Roddick!
     
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    Ferrero, Ferrer, Davydenko, and Federer is not a tough draw? What is a tough draw on clay than?
     
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  47. joeri888

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    Nadal did have a tough draw, though I think Djokovic is more dangerous than Davydenko. Ferrer and Nalbandian are obviously the toughest semifinalists you can meet, and Ferrero is still a good player who once was the best in the world on clay.

    I don't think it's looking for excuses if you say that Roger Federer has a tough draw. It's just a look at the facts. He has a tough draw, while a player like Davydneko can easily walk to the semis IMO, same goes for Nadal THIS time. However, I think RF, RN and Davydenko should qualifie with ease for the semis. I could see Djoko slip up against Nalbandian though.

    The most imporntant draw will be the one in Roland Garros. I hope Ferrer can play Nadal there in the quarters, and Roger's in Roddick's part.
     
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    Funny how last year, people were saying Nadal had the easier opponent with Djokovic. Now it is Davydenko the easier opponent. I guess regardless which opponent, Nadal has the easier opponent. :rolleyes:
     
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  49. deme08

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    Ferrero is old news, this is not 2003. Djokovic and Nalbandian both are more dangerous than Ferrer/Davydenko on clay. So relatively speaking, no, Nadal's draw was not tough.
     
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    Nalbandian is too slow to bother Nadal on clay. Indoors allow for shot making to be a bigger part of the game but you need speed on clay. Ferrer is Nadal's toughest opponent on clay due to his speed as well as shot making.
     
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