Rome International - WTA - 2013

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WWW? (Which Woman Wins?)

Poll closed May 15, 2013.
  1. Serena Williams

    50.0%
  2. Maria Sharapova

    12.5%
  3. Victoria Azarenka

    8.3%
  4. Agnieszka Radwańska

    4.2%
  5. Li Na

    8.3%
  6. Angelique Kerber

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Sara Errani

    4.2%
  8. Petra Kvitová

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Samantha Stosur

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  10. Ana Ivanovic

    12.5%
  1. Soianka

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    Looks like Sloane might win 2 matches in a row.
     
  2. Love Game

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    how cool is that? :D
    unfortunately, court 4 isnt a show court, but Sloane d Kiki 46 63 62

    and her next opponent (who was playing on a show court): Sharapova d Muguruza 62 62

    the good news is they'll definitely put the defending champion on a show court, probably Centrale .... good and bad news cuz Maria's used to playing there, and Sloane isnt ..... but I have faith in Sloane that she'll acclimatize quickly and give it her best

    Shrieka seems like a lock ... but stranger things have happened! :)
     
  3. Love Game

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    wow julia's not gonna be out there long if she doesnt start putting up some numbers ... saves a bagel at least 1-4 ...

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    Goerges is really stinking up the place. She can't keep the ball in play for more than 3 consecutive shots...

    At least she finally holds for 5-2, saving a couple of set points
     
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    I did not think that Serena would win this week. But, once you look at the draw, you ask yourself, "Who's gonna beat her?" A lot of dangerous players (CSN, Vinci, Jankovic on clay, even) in that half of the draw, but no one dangerous enough to pull off the upset. Cibulkova and Li might have the best chance. I say this next match against the former will be her toughest of the tournament.
     
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    When Cibulkova puts it all together, it's pretty fun. I like seeing a vertically challenged woman just cracking thunderous winners. Also enjoy watching the ball sniffing fetish.

    If Serena is sleepwalking and Domi is hot, could be trouble. Until she chokes it away in the last set. Which can be entertaining in its own way...
     
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    predictions on these matches?

    Stosur-Kvitova
    Errani-Kirilenko
    Jankovic-Li
     
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    Stosur-Kvitova--Kvitova, although with these two headcases, who knows for sure!
    Errani-Kirilenko--Errani on clay.
    Jankovic-Li--Li
     
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    Nobody is beating Sharapova in her quarter. Her quarter is a joke.
     
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    The only person who has a "remote" chance is Li Na, otherwise Serena's half is pretty much a joke.
     
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    serena's threatening to make the whole tour that again...henin needs to stop this baby nonsense, put the kid up for adoption and head to paris stat!
     
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    I think Serena will have a lot of trouble with Cibulkova.
     
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    agreed. if cibul is in good form, she'll do her normal thing against the big girls ..... if she's able to make them run a lot (something out of their comfort zone), she's often able to prevail

    that said, williams owns their meager H2H 2-0, first time in2010, second earlier this year on hard in miami in 3 sets ..... who knows on the slow clay of rome? this might be cibul's best chance . . .
     
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    SINGLES RESULTS - Second round

    [14] Dominika Cibulkova (SVK) d Melanie Oudin (USA)
    | 5 - 7 | 6 - 1 | 6 - 3 |
    Lourdes Dominguez Lino (ESP) d Yanina Wickmayer (BEL)
    | 6 - 4 | 6 - 4 |
    Carla Suarez Navarro (ESP) d Romina Oprandi (SUI)
    | 6 - 4 | 6 - 2 |
    [2] Maria Sharapova (RUS) d Garbine Muguruza (ESP)
    | 6 - 2 | 6 - 2 |
    [16] Sloane Stephens (USA) d Kiki Bertens (NED)
    | 4 - 6 | 6 - 3 | 6 - 2 |
    [7] Sara Errani (ITA) d Christina McHale (USA)
    | 7 - 5 | 5 - 7 | 6 - 2 |
    [3] Victoria Azarenka (BLR) d Julia Goerges (GER)
    | 6 - 2 | 6 - 0 |
    Ayumi Morita (JPN) d Urszula Radwanska (POL)
    | 6 - 3 | 6 - 1 |
    [9] Samantha Stosur (AUS) d Shuai Peng (CHN)
    | 7 - 6 (5) | 6 - 0 |
    [5] Na Li (CHN) d Jie Zheng (CHN)
    | 6 - 3 | 6 - 1 |
    Jelena Jankovic (SRB) d Bojana Jovanovski (SRB)
    | 6 - 2 | 6 - 0 |
    [13] Roberta Vinci (ITA) d Nastassja Burnett (ITA)
    | 6 - 1 | 6 - 4 |
    [12] Maria Kirilenko (RUS) d Varvara Lepchenko (USA)
    | 6 - 3 | 6 - 1 |
     
  15. Love Game

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    Start The Day With Rain Delay

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    Jelena comfortable 76(2) in the first set TB.

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    these two are sleepwalking through this match .... yawn to the max with the time theyre taking between points ..... heard the umpire mention something, but so far hasnt goosed them at all, so on they go in slow motion!
     
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    This match. My god, what an absolute sh*tfest. Li Na is falling out of the Top 5 this week, but with the absolute garbage tennis she's produced here and in Madrid, she should be excommunicated from the WTA tour. Can't hit a forehand inside the doubles alley to save her damn life and those ridiculous DFs on game points in that 12-deuce game.
     
  18. hugobosstachini

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    ^^ Exactly, each match Li Na losses is a salvation for the WTA. Personally, I'm tired of these clueless inconsistent ball-bashers taking a top 10 place from another player and literally killing the depth of the WTA tour.
     
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    Li Na stroke 31 winners for 62 unforced errors (-31) for God's sake.
     
  20. Love Game

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    K so .... Paire knocked delPotro OUT of the supertennis stadium, so, up next is:

    [1] S Williams (USA) vs [14] D Cibulkova (SVK)
     
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    Wait a second...3 members picked Ana Ivanovic??

    Funny.
     
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    Can only see what's on the livescore app, but it looks like serena is awake, her serve is back on, and the bakery is open. Domi takes home the variety pack.

    12 aces. Haven't seen that in a while.
     
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    oh. my. gosh.
    what is wrong with these people?
    this was so boring I couldnt stand to watch.
    williams was playing herself.
    doesnt anybody even try anymore?
    the energizer bunny left town, a wind-up toy munching bakery in her place! :shock:

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    Yeah Cibulkova really put up a fight....for 1 game
     
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    I immediately though about the Olympics' final last year...
     
  26. THUNDERVOLLEY

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    Well...

    Serena is fast and plays the entire court, so what part of that strategy was going to work?

    After the previous tournament, SW seems to be working out the kinks every step of the way, which natrually spells doom for almost everyone else.

    Cibulkova was no threat.
     
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    lookin forward to sloane vs. shrieka :)

    players warming up, beotch announcer now calling her "salon stevens" :roll: sloane needs some much, much better public relations ...
     
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    Well, maybe it's lucky for her. She's been given a new alter ego. Who wll show up? Will Salon give Sharapova a makeover or will masha snatch Sloane's wig?
     
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    Does anyone see Serena not winning here in Rome?
     
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    LOL @ Salon
     
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    Can anyone explain to me what has happened to Radwanska? Numerous early round losses on the Clay, and she dyed her hair.....
     
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    Sloane is actually not playing too poorly. She started slow, but has dug in now and giving Maria a nice fight so far.

    Despite picking Sharapova in the SDL, I always love to see her lose as early as possible :) so if Salon wins, it'll be a good day.

    edit - Just kidding, she's getting clowned now. Doublefaultpova is in full flight and Stephens still cant do anything
     
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    Oh, I didn't knew the two new best friends were both on the court against each other. Sad really, I wanted S. Williams to butcher both, even if she isn't nice herself.
     
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    Sloane is 5'7" tall.
    Maria is 6'2" tall.

    Sloane is 19 years old.
    Maria is 25 years old.

    Maria is just all over Sloane in more ways than one. That half foot difference in height may always be hard to overcome, but it's clear that tonight may be a good learning experience for Sloane, and it's gonna take a few more years before Sloane can feel comfortable against either of the top 3, IMO .... that coach didnt really seem to click with her .... something's missing
     
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    Anyone expecting another beatdown for Sharapova in the final from her favorite tormentor? Or will someone stop it.

    It is amazing how Sharapova routines all these players the way she does, only to get routined herself by one player over and over again.
     
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    true. williams made shara look ordinary in Madrid

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    noticed sloane didnt call her coach out in the second set. she needs a coach who can connect with her on a personal level, not that nanking guy who sat there like he was telling somebody ELSE what to do. anyway, back to the drawing board ... sloane has potential but seems to need to work it harder. wonder whether her height w/b a hindrance in today's WTA world?
     
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    Yes, I see plenty of raw talent just waiting to be used in Sloane. But sometimes she just plays like she only started playing a few days ago.
     
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    She takes care of that herself--by launching a failed smear campaign on Twitter, then following it with more lies.

    [sarcasm]Good image management....[/sarcasm]
     
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    Height is a completely false theory, as all successful, current players of the modern era are not big, 6 feet tall players, or near it:

    Schiavone: 5'5" - Won a major.

    Stosur - 5'8" Won a major.

    Na Li - 5 ft 7 1⁄2 in. Won a major.

    Retired players in the Mary Carillo-described modern era of big babe tennis:

    Henin: 5 ft 5 1⁄2 in. Seven majors.

    Capriati: 5 ft 7 in. Three majors.

    Clijsters: 5 ft 8 1⁄2 in. Four majors.

    ...so if all of the listed players could manage to win majors in the modern era of taller, stronger players, height cannot be used as an excuse for Stephens.

    It comes down to the issue of talent.
     
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    Oh kvitova.....

    its no shame losing to stosur on clay..but still.
     
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    God I cant stand mary carillo.

    Serena herself I dont think is that tall.

    I think she is closer to 5'9 than 5'10.

    Honestly, I have a similar build in height and shape to Serena...but err, not blessed with her generous derrier. I myself am 5'9.
     
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    It is strange. She just doesn't beat 90% of these girls she kills them. Then she gets to Serena and its like she is ranked 100th in the world. There is defiantly a huge mental factor involved when girls play her, and when she play Serena. I mean she is more dominate on clay over most women than even Nadal is over most men. Then she sees Serena and its almost like she is stepping on the court to play Djokovic.

    Serena is not unbeatable, hell many women have beaten her even in important matches. Stosur and Kim K come to mind.
     
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    Some nice scalps for Halep this tournament:

    Hantuchova, Kuzie, Aga, and now Vinci.

    She lost a tiebreak set to Radwanska, but aside from that, her opponents games won in each set (including qualifying):
    1, 0, 4, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 4, 2.

    Good run.
     
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    Yes there is. Kvitova should NOT be losing to Stosur anywhere. Terrible.
     
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    I don't. She just looks like a run of the mill top 20 player to me, nothing special.
     
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    S. Williams: 5'9"
    Mauresmo: 5'9" (2 majors, end year number 1)

    So yeah, in men tennis size makes a difference in serves. Especially since they don't shank as much with serves. However, in women, I can only recall a handful of girls whose size arguably advantaged their serve. Maybe Venus Williams, but that's all. In fact, I suspect WTA womens don't all have the proper technique to generate good pace on serve; Sharapova being one of the worst offenders. In order for size to make a difference, better technique in needed as a foundation. Both Williams sisters have a good serve technique (and their serves looks very similar), so they are able to generate better pace with it.

    Not to mention footwork and movement issues with size...

    /2cents
     
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    Williams-Suarez Navarro
    (Q) Halep-Jankovic
    Stosur-Azarenka
    Errani-Sharapova
     
  48. NadalAgassi

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    As much as Stosur has never impressed me, Stosur is a better clay courter than Kvitova. Would Kvitova ever have the run Stosur did at the 2010 French on clay. Of course not. Someone who can beat Henin on clay can easily beat Petra on clay. Of course on any other surface the result would be bad, but on any other surface Petra would probably win easily like she has their other meetings.
     
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    That could be interesting.
     
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    Kim kardashian beat serena ina big match?? News to me!

    Also, I wouldn't say sharapova owns eveybody.
    azarenak has had hew number. And when li na isn't having a brain fart she can take out maria, namely because she is a much better mover and can handle pace.
     

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