Rossignol F200

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  1. jorel

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    How much difference is there between the original version with the Rooster(nightingale) on the throat and the later versions with the R on the throat..

    Anyone play with both versions and can comment on the differences? Thanks.
     
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  2. galain

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    Jorel

    there's no difference between the original grey and the next model - green. It was only a cosmetic change. The later versions that didn't feature the small fill in at the bottom of the throat shaft played a little differently - a little less stable and (I sear) some of them felt a touch stiffer than the earlier models (not that that would be difficult).

    There was also a 200 series made for the Japanese market - one model of which featured the filled in throat and the others didn't. These were lighter, came in a range of colours (usually white, though) and to my mind, didn't play as well. A racquet as flexible as the f200 needs some heft to it otherwise it'll just be too flimsy.
     
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  3. plasma

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    my Rozzy F 200 is so soft and fat she bends thru the air when you take her for a swing...I really miss my skinny Rozzy, a one of a kind micro thin made in usa mint Rozzy. You can see her on the wall in the background of this old flick...only flick I have of Her, my good buddy Bob who stole her away promised pics, I've never asked that of anything I've traded but this f200 graphite was that unique and beautiful....
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    1907-1954 Abel Rossignol was a brilliant and passionate inventor and businessman who died broke and bankrupt.
     
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  4. galain

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    Plasma - is your skinny Rossi the Graphite 200 (the wood one?). Nice stick but I'm a little afraid to use mine in case it snaps. Feels like it could go pretty easily.
     
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  5. plasma

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    please post pics galian, I had never seen one before, phenomenal frame!!! yes, the f200 graphite, possibly best graphics ever, a visual masterpiece!
     
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  6. galain

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    Whoa there muchacho! There's the f200 - (she who we know and love above all others) and around the same time was the Graphite 200 - which strangely enough, was a wooden frame with a graphite face. It was made in the US - unlike most of the others which were French in origin. It also has a cross section of 14mm - the thinnest I've ever come across.

    Mate - i would be happy to post pics, but I moved countries last year and had to make a decision as to which frames to bring with me. Sadly, most of my collection is safe in my home country. I only brought the ones I play with.
     
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  7. galain

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    hang on a minute.......
     
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    Not sure if these will work - these were taken a few years back and (once again), were not really of my entire Rossi collection.

    What isn't here are my f300's, the f295, 290, 280 and 240, my white f230, the f100 (and my other grey 200's), the Diva, and, ummm, I'm sure I'm forgetting some because I have a hell of a lot of them!

    You can see the white Japanese market f200's at the top of the first pic -one with the 'bottom bridge' and one without. Not a patch on the original.

    Enjoy - I'm sad I don't have all of them with me, but I was overweight with baggage already! What can ya do?

    oh - Plasma - the wooden Graphite 200 is 3rd pic down, second from the right.

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    http://tinypic.com/dyuhea.jpg
     
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  9. anirut

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    Galain ... I'm salivating ...
     
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    awesome collection, amazing, what is the racquet with the asymetrical crossbar, I am super jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  11. galain

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    Ani my friend - I don't have them all with me. It's lonely without my babies!

    Plasma - that would the 9R Power Blue - the tweener version of Yellow that TW is selling. It's not exactly a classic and I can't honestly even say if it was made by the same company that made the inverted bridged frames. I know the Rossignol name has been through a few hands since the glory days. There are other conventional shaped Rossi frames out there but I have no real interest in adding them to my collection.
     
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    Rossignol i really would like they come back to businness.

    These are the babies i've with me, it's missed a F230 and 2 grey F200 that I have in another house.

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  13. vsbabolat

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    The White Rossignol F200 was also sold in Europe. I had a friend who used the White F200 in those days.
     
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  14. plasma

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    skunk, those are amazing!!!, could we see close ups of the throats on the ones on the left??? wow!
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    too bad all racquets look the same these days...zzzzzzzzzzzz.....
     
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    hi plasma, here some pics, of the beauty

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  17. joe sch

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    I owe alot to the rossi f200 !
    When I finally got bad tennis elbow and shoulder problems from the modern rackets strung with pro blend, rather than giving up tennis, I played woodys and the rossi. After about 6 months, my arm was ok again and I treated myself to my old max 200g. This love affair is still ongoing now for almost 1 century. Every once in awhile, I will play a modern rackets for a short period of time, maybe week or so, and the elbow starts to hurt, so I just continue playing the old school graphites.

    Cheers,
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  18. PSO67

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    Have one that says FCX and looks exactly like the f200 except color which is green. Any info on this?
     
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  19. plasma

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    not even the f250 comes close to the original IMHO...
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    I've never had it confirmed, but i am almost positive the FCX is a paintjobbed R90 just aimed at a different market. From what I can tell on the court their pretty much the same stick.
     
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  21. plasma

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    Skunk, those look more like amazing modern sculpture than a tennis racquet. I'm guessing that they're stiff because of the kevlar. I played the F250 as a kid for two years. Also a very stiff Rozzy...
     
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  22. _skunk_

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    They are for sure stiffer than the F200, but very soft compared to actual standards, the power is low, control is superb, I've would say they have a muted feeling, but this is just a personal opinion, the only way to make them work well was to play with low tensions (22 Kg) and multifilament strings.
    This babies are too much "player racket" for me now, but time to time I like to use them again.
     
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  23. Dino Lagaffe

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    When I measured my F250 on the RDC machine, these are the numbers I got:

    Weight: 358 g / 12.63 oz
    Flex: 60
    SW: 349

    Pretty nice racquet, but "stiff" compared to my other Rossignols...
     
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  24. plasma

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    hybrid string tensions destroy rossignol playability. When my folks were alive they took me to Paris as a young kid. I was taken to a pro shop before heading back home....I had a choice between an f250 and an adidas gtx. The gtx had unusual unique graphics I had never seen before or since, amazing. I was insecure and intimidated so I went with the f250...I would never safinize a racquet, but would still love to safinize an f250 someday.
    maybe this true tale is why there are now 10 gtx's in my closet, maybe I'm looking to hold onto more than just racquets here???
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  25. galain

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    You know - if you look closely at some of the Rossignol line, you can see the innovations that some other companies love to crow about - but were already in Rossi's years before.

    In Skunk's pictures of his Vectris, the triangular cross section of later Yonex's is all too apparent. In the FT and DT series, the tapered frame width (*cough* Babolat, Yonex, Prince et al cough*) is already there and working beautifully. The inverted bridge - keeping the mains all the one length for better control, was there in 1979! When did Yonex and Snauwaert come up with their versions?

    I will remain forever saddened that Rossi never had the marketing money to back up their superb ideas. I wish they were still with us, I really do.
     
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  26. plasma

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    I cried a silent tear when kniessl stopped making stick like racquets. Around the same time fischer gave up the superform and roxzzy gave up the inverted throat bridge....a true loss to those who really love great hitting!
     
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  27. khw72004

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    There's alway the bay, where you can buy these classic frame. And its not like you want to buy new frames anyways Plasma. I think these companies that made these great playing classic frames ended at the right time. If they continued making rackets and their reputation would not be the same.
     
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  28. plasma

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    i believe that the ps 85, superform xl, kneissl, 200g etc. are much better than what's currently out there....racquets today are so boring....big thumbs up to Radek Stephanek and his Bosworth International. He'll drag you into the deep water with that magic wand!!!
     
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  29. ilian

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    I agree with you 100%.
     
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  30. plasma

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    I just saw Radek Stephanek win an entire tournament with a 10 sided Bosworth International. the whole time it looked like he was barely getting the ball back. Players would get dragged into the deep water and not know how they got there or why he won..???
    try to understand...his experience makes him the magic man...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYjgh-znxB4
     
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    What's the headsize of F200 ???
     
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  32. plasma

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    seems like a true mid. I'd like to try one out for a few months and test the spin potential. Not hoping for thunder on the serve but looking forward to much plough through and the symphony of feeling that comes with vintage Euro frames.
     
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    I love how the Euro chick pronounces "america" in the vid. So f'ing sexy.
    Though considering this video being back from '76 -my birth year lol- this chick is probably a milf by now.

    What wouldn't I give to live in Cisco and go to an art school back in the 70's! Just to hang out with them happy-go-lucky hippy art school chicks :p
    Ain't that so, plaz?
     
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  34. kalic

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    Of course it's a mid, but what exactly (in square inches) ?
    BTW I found one today, first version, good shape, for 5$ :) It realy feels like a wood...
     
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    I would like to know the same thing about the headsize. I got a quite badly worn white version at a second-hand shop for 4$. You can actually feel the racquet bending when you hit your groundstrokes. However, if you mis-hit, it vibrates like a ladies' toy.... But it's good though(except for volleying).
     
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  36. Virginia

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    The white version, though it looks nice, is lighter and not as robust as the usual grey version.
     
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  37. Rock Strongo

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    I vagely recall hitting with the grey version a couple of years ago, but not enough for me to remember (i was about 10 when i hit with it). How is it playing-wise compared to the white one, apart from the weight and the robustness?

    And i don't really know if you can answer this, but i know that the white version is rare. How much do you think it's worth (if you're a Rossi expert and know anything about them:))
     
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  38. retrowagen

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    The F200 was 20% larger than a standard-sized racquet; the F300 was 30% larger; the F100 was 10%, etc. ... For a while, the Rossignol model designations actually had some logic to them. So the F200 was roughly 82 sq-in.
     
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  39. jimbo333

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    Well the F150 was certainly 15% stranger than standard:)
     
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  40. kalic

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    That's what I call know knowledge :)
    Thanks !
     
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  41. galain

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    Jimbo - you can say that again. Weird little beast isn't she. Kind of like a Yonex sneaked out one night and produced this strange looking love child.

    Rock - the original grey or the green that was the next paintjob are much more solid hits than the white F200. Same flex but a lot more weight. The whites aren't really worth that much, although I see there's some clown on a bay somewhere who thinks he's going to get upwards of $100 for his. I'm the freakiest of freaky Rossignol freaks - and I wouldn't pay that for a white F200.
     
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  42. jimbo333

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    Yes that F150 is just weird:)

    Someone was going to post photos of their F200's at some point but didn't in the end, I can't remember who it was!

    I'm still confused, as I thought all the early ones were grey, I've never seen a green or blue one, and would like to see photos please:)
     
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  43. Dino Lagaffe

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    That may have been me... :oops:
    I have a bunch of Rossignols, including the different colors of the F200 you mentioned. I'll see if I can get some pictures up later.
     
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  44. jimbo333

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    Yes, it was you:)

    Would really like to see the photos at some point please:)
     
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    While I'm waiting for Dino's photos here are a couple:)

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    OK, the second isn't really an F200, it is a "Graphite 200" (a wood/graphite frame):)
     
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    And one of the weirdest racquets ever made the F150:)

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  47. jimbo333

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    Thanks for your message, looking forward to seeing the photos:)
     
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    wow...is that a hot pink (hot lava) rossi f200? i thought i made out clean w my blue rossi's from Value City in 1992..ive since lost/traded/sold them but man i miss them:)
     
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  49. FedererClone

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    I am becoming nostalgic reading this as I sell my F200 on the~bay; maybe time to lead it up and swing again? ...but surely it can't rival other frames for my 1HBH...this is a 2HBH icon stick, no?
     
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  50. jimbo333

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    ^^^^^ Yes, I think the F200 is best with a 2 Handed Backhand, that's why it never really suited me!

    Oh and that F200 is actually red in real life, even though it looks pink in the photo, camera flash etc:)
     
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