Safety in buying/selling/trading?

Discussion in 'References' started by nimxnooj, Feb 10, 2005.

  1. nimxnooj

    nimxnooj New User

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    I didn't know where to put this thread and i thought that this might be the best place for it. What methods do people on this board use to prevent scamming when buying/selling/trading? I was thinking of buying rackets but there's always that slight hesitancy of being scammed. I mean, $50-$100-$200-$X isn't a small amount of money i'd risk. And when people say that the rackets are 9/10 condition, is there like a criteria when saying that? Like 9/10=5 scratches, 8/10=10 scratcthes, or something like that? Just wanted to hear people's opinions/advice.

    Also, what is the standard way of buying/selling on these boards? like...the process
     
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  2. D-man

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    Well, what I do is first see if the seller has some references on this board. Then I check out what those people posted to make sure they're not fake references... it's easy to come on with a bunch of user names and post that you're a great seller, but it also can be apparent by the person's posts whether they're real or not. I'd maybe ask if they had an **** ID and see what they're feedback was like. Basically just ask them some questions and if they're evasive you know something's fishy. Sometimes scammers will actually send you pictures of the racket, though, and they can be very tricky. I was on a RC forum where scammers hauled in a ton of money, more than here, even, by selling all this new latest model stuff at incredible prices. I was always shocked that someone would send $600 for a RC boat with no references, nothing, just out of the blue (true story). No boat ever came. You get a sixth sense after awhile through dealing with people. I've bought a couple rackets on this board without incident, and I'm a regular buyer/seller through ****, never had a problem there, either. As for the condition, it is totally subjective and some people understate, some overstate. It's best to get pictures unless the item's pretty cheap anyway. Most people have a preference for how they'd like to receive payment, sometimes money order, sometimes Paypal, or check or even cash. Paypal has a good feature that if the transaction is eligible you can buy insurance.

    Hope that helps some anyway, that's about all I know.
     
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  3. Richie Rich

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    my interpretation of condition is as follows:
    9/10 - slightly used. No damage to frame or grip. Maybe couple scuffs on bumper. Nothing deep or serious. Could pass for new if new bumper/grommet set put on.
    8/10 - more scuffing on bumper, maybe overgrip residue on grip, maybe slight rash or a nick or 2 on the frame. Still in great shape though with no deep scrapes or cracks.
    7/10 - some deep scuffs on the bumper, paint chips or scratches to the paint, grip used. Needs a new grommet/bumper set and grip. No structural damage.
    6/10 - heavily used racquet but not abused. Probably a couple years old. Paint scratched/peeled off, court rash on the frame, paint chips, etc.
    5/10 and below - maybe a back up racquet if you are depserate to stay with the same frame. probably not much like left in the racquet.

    Maybe other posters can let me know how this stacks up against their personal ratings.
     
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  4. What's with the number scale? I could describe my frame for an hour, then someone asks me, "What's the condition on a scale from 1 to 10?" I don't get it, are they telling me, "Your desciption sucks"? There's no set scale, so you have to ask the person to define the grade. In the seller's case, he needs to make sure to define his grade anyway (again) so as to not give the buyer any surprises when the stuff shows up. Plus, most people just use the "8.5-10" scale. I mean, look at Rich. He uses a virtual 5-10 scale. It's like giving the frame 3 stars out of 5. This isn't the Academy Awards. I don't see soap opera clips on my screen. Couple years old with paint peeled off and it's a 6/10 (only 40 percent used or something)? Isn't a frame going to have characteristics of more than one grade? Perhaps to some, there are particular characteristics that are more important than others. What's wrong with just using words and pictures in describing and showing our warez?
     
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  5. Richie Rich

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    I agree with you PC. Pics are the best way. Unfortunately some people aren't in the digital era yet. Then you have to rely on descritptions and interpretations. This is where people get into misunderstandings. Whether you go by a number scale or description (mint, excellent, good, etc) you will get people who don't agree with your assessment. I give people some leeway when I buy something and don't get upset unless the description was really off base. I guess that's life and it's only a tennis racquet. What can you do?
     
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