Safin says that Federer should have won 25 Grand Slams already by now

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  1. BreakPoint

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    "In the history of tennis, everybody's an underachiever," Safin said. "Agassi should have been winning, I don't know, 15 Grand Slams. Sampras should have been winning 20 Grand Slams. Federer should be winning — already should have 25."

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  2. T1000

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    Safin was partying too much before the interview :wink:
     
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    Hes trying to make his career not seem so bad :D

    I wish he would just focus
     
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  4. BreakPoint

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    Wouldn't it make his career seem even worse if Federer won 25, since he's only won two? :confused:
     
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    Maybe he was just being a bit sarcastic ??
     
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    No, because he would be playing in a era with a guy that SHOULD HAVE won at least 25.
     
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  7. angharad

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    I think he means that everyone else talks like Federer should have won everything in his career - like Federer having a "bad" year because he won "only" one slam. It's similar to how everyone says Marat should have accomplished more in his career, instead of being happy he accomplished what he did.

    It's trying to shift the focus to the positive, instead of harping on the negative.
     
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  8. BreakPoint

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    And don't forget that he was also playing in the era with two guys that SHOULD HAVE won 15 and 20 Slams, respectively. ;-)
     
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  9. Mick

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    i think if safin had nadal's fighting spirit, he probably would have won more than 2 grand slam titles.
     
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  10. Cesc Fabregas

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    Tell me where Roger's 11 extra slams come from?
     
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    Well if he wasnt an underachiever early in his career he could have won alot more slams in 2001-2003. He is better than Hewitt obviously, and most of the slams won those years were all people he could beat if he had began to mature sooner- Hewitt, Johansson, Costa, aging Agassi, Roddick, aging Sampras, past his prime Ivanisevic.
     
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  12. RCizzle65

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    Probably so, I didn't read the interview, but the quote is talking about underachievers, and most people note Safin as a huge underachiever, so he's exaggerating numbers around and being sarcastic saying that even huge achievers are underachievers.
     
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    I don't think anybody can seriously listen and believe to what Safin is saying.
     
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  14. icedevil0289

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    eh, safin must have been high when he said this.
     
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    'everybody is an underachiever...' so basically Safin is saying everyone should have won more GS. but theres only 4 GS in a year, where do the extra grand slams come from if everyone is winning more?? Is he suggesting there should be 10 GS each year?
     
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  16. RCizzle65

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    Everyone, HE IS BEING SARCASTIC
     
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  17. sureshs

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    Safin is joking. It is not meant to be taken seriously.
     
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  18. BreakPoint

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    Well, 6 from Nadal right there if Nadal were clean (I know, no proof yet).

    One from Djokovic if he didn't have mono.

    The other four he should have won in 2002-2004.

    So there's your extra 11 Grand Slams. :)
     
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  19. Safin must have died before that interview.
     
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  20. ChanceEncounter

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    Sarcasm is lost on the internet.

    Davai Marat!
     
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    according to safin,how many slams should SAFIN have won??
     
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  22. ChanceEncounter

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    Enough to get all the ladies.
     
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  23. Rickson

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    Let's see. Flushing Meadows 2003 = 1, FO 2004 = 2, AO and FO 2005 = 4, FO 2006 = 5, FO 2007 = 6, AO + FO + Wimbledon 2008 = 9, AO 2009 = 10. 14 + 10 = 24. Safin was off by 1 slam.
     
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  24. Hi Rickson,


    How the hell are you? :)
     
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  25. malakas

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    he would get them even without any slams.:p
     
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    Maratsky being a wiseacre as usual...
     
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  27. Rickson

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    Pretty good, dipitous.
     
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    I think winning 14/24 isn't half bad, no?
     
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  29. Rickson

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    58% to be precise. 56% when you include his latest win at RG.
     
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  30. Jchurch

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    He already did :)
     
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    I can't believe people are actually trying to find Fed an extra 11 slams. It was a joke, people. A JOKE.
     
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    I don't think Safin would count his own slam as one of Federer's 25.
     
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  33. beernutz

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    Holy cow, read the rest of the interview people, the link is right there. He admits he thinks he an underachiever and should have won a couple of more majors but that he's happy with his career.
     
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  34. sureshs

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    So that was your motive behind this thread, to imply Nadal is doping. I was thinking, BP doesn't start threads like this based on some junk from Safin.
     
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    And Safin... If you actually gave a damn about your profession you should be sitting on a hell of alot more than 2 slams
     
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    Safin was probably drunk when the interview took place.
     
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    That's sarcasm/joking, most probably borne from the reporters stupid question. I would have wanted to see Safin's face while he said that. Priceless!
     
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  38. BreakPoint

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    WTF are you talking about? :-?

    NO, I was NOT thinking of anything like that at all when I started this thread. Only someone with a seriously distorted mind would start a thread based on that.

    I read Safin's quote in the local newspaper today so I thought it would be something interesting to post on here. THAT'S ALL!!!! :-?

    I'll leave it up to you (and others) to speculate where the other 11 Slams would come from.
     
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  39. Rhino

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    they would have to hold 6 or 7 grand slams a year for those figures to even be possible!
     
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    Not really. If Federer won every GS from 2003-2008, that's 24 right there. Add in this year's AO or FO, and he's already got 25. :)
     
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    Well that means Safin thinks nadal should get at least 25. :)
     
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    Ok but according to Safin, Agassi and Sampras should've won a total of 35, plus he said Rios should've won 5 - so with Federer's 25 that's 65 grand slams between just four people, and I presume he still at least expects his own two slams... and does he then expect that Nadal and Hewitt, etc won zero? :)
     
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  43. BreakPoint

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    No one ever accused Safin of being good at math. ;)

    BTW, where did he say that Rios should have won 5?
     
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    It seems to be just his response to being called an underachiever.

    "Yeah, I could have won a few more... but so could have everyone else."
     
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    Likely this is a continuatoin of the often heard statement that Safin should have won more than 2 Slams.



    Many on thie mb don't understand the bsics of the English language. let alone its subleties.
     
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    LOL, you people are ridiculous. I can't believe you're getting caught up in the literal feasibility and missing the forest for the trees.
     
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    sorry i know this is off topic, but i absolutely hate it when people say these things

    if you say something overly thought out - you're high
    if you say something truthful - you're drunk
    if you say something stupid - you're most probably sober

    being high =/= being stupid lol
     
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    Number of hypothetical slams aside...

    If Federer peaked earlier, I think Pete probably would've retired a little later.

    Fed wasn't ready to win in 01. But he could've been in 02.

    Suppose Fed had his first Wimbledon in 02 (with Sampras STILL winning 02 USO and Roger not playing him). If you transplant Fed's success in 04 to 03, all that "potential GOAT" talk would've probably already started to churn for him... at a time when Sampras was still around and had yet to announce his retirement.

    Would've been interesting.
     
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    Safin's just saying, everyone could have won more than they actually have. He's happy with what a great career he's had and doesn't want to be remembered as an underachiever, but just as a former no. 1 and 2 time Slam winner with a great game.
     
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