Safin Takes Beijing!!

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  1. Power Game

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    Safin Takes Beijing with a straight set win over his countryman.
     
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  2. Vlad

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    That was big for him. He needed this confidence boost that he can still beat these guys and win one for a change. I want to see him at the Masters cup in Houston this year playing well.
    The most surpirising thing is that he didn't waste any time struggling with low-ranked players, beating everyone in straight sets.
    Well, we'll see what he does for the rest of the year.
     
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  3. Tim Tiger Henman

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    Good on him. I hope he makes a come-back. He is one guy who could seriously challenge Fed now and again - given the right surface and the right state of mind.
     
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    Safin

    It's nice to see Marat win a tournament for once.
     
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  5. Mark55

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    "It's nice to see Marat win a tournament for once." -degreefanlindi

    Yeah he has only won 11 singles titles including the US Open and making it to the finals twice at the Australian Open....
     
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  6. Ronaldo

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    1st title this yr. Youzny was no pushover, great groundies.
     
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  7. Vlad

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    Mark55, yes he won 11 titles, make it 12 but how many did he win after his amazing year 2000? Today, he won only his 4th title in 4 years... That is almost nothing for a player of his caliber. BTW for some players losing a final is even worse than losing in the first round of that tournament. Just look at his slump after he reached 2002 AO final.. He won only one tournament that year in November..
     
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  8. Tim Tiger Henman

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    My sarcasm meter is going haywire ... its gone off the charts ...
     
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  9. big ted

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    hes playing well again because the pressures off now, the year is pretty much over for the big players after the us open. safin i believe is not one to handle pressure well. he won the us open but had no pressure because he was an up and comer. he can do well at the australian because its such a laid back atmosphere and tournament but still cant get it together in the big finals when the pressures on and ppl expect him to perform. hes just not mentally tough enough and it shows when he folds or tanks matches every now and then
     
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  10. Golden Retriever

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    I am glad he won, er...... I mean prevailed. He seems to do better at 3setters, maybe due to short attention span.
     
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  11. Datacipher

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    Heh! See, Retriever! Our condescending, mean-spiritedness has already improved your grammar! ;-)
     
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  12. pound cat

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    Safin never does better at 3 setters, especially when he is having a low-confidence spell in his career. They're often over before his manic personality kicks in. 5 setters are made for him...it's called the Safin rollercoaster method to winning a match.
     
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    I would like some mean-spirited help for my 2nd serve.
     
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    In the spirit of Barry (anti-Roddick ferver), how many Top 20 players did Safin actually beat? What was this, a setup draw?!
     
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    Why has not anyone posted that Safin was injured and MIA in 2003. Suppose this will lead to jokes that he is still brain-injured or his brain is still MIA.
     
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  17. clownsuck

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    I honestly forget about him all the time. Good for him...he really is a great player.
     
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  18. david aames

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    Thanks for nothing d*ckhead. I was in the process of watching it on the Tennis Channel.

    When will you guys understand? Is it that hard to add spoiler next to the subject line?
     
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  19. Power Game

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    Sorry, I had no idea it was televised in the US. Sorry
     
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  20. VictorS.

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    Man, this guy is capable of playing amazing tennis when he's focused. I know there's been a lot of debate whether he can challenge federer. I honestly cannot say either way...however, I think there's little doubt he's clearly #2 if he's got his act together.


    After seeing this display, it makes you wish he could've done a little more damage at the us open.
     
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  21. C_Urala

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    It's a bit too early to say he can be #2. He won only one title and he played against 3 rank players (except Youzhny, who is, I'd say, from a 2nd echelon).
     
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  22. VictorS.

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    I watched most of the first set, and came away really impressed with safin's game. Obviously Youzny is not a top caliber player, but you could just tell safin had the focus and concentration that he's lacked really since the australian open.

    Obviously it's going to take a more consistent effort from safin if he is to overtake roddick's #2 spot. However, I think besides Federer, there really isn't another guy that can play with him when he's at his best. Agassi, Roddick, and maybe JC Ferrero aren't that far behind though.
     
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  23. yee

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    Check Santoro records against Safin, VistorS.

    I think no matter how good you are, there will always be somebody else who can beat you irregardless. Same goes for Federer, we just didn't see that in this year that's all. I have no doubt that it will come soon enough.
     
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  24. Max G.

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    Safin's main problem is, as we all know, focus. It isn't a question of "can he beat anybody in the world if he's playing well" - we know he can. Maybe not the Federer of this year, but other than that, he clearly CAN play well enough to beat them.

    The question is whether he can play well. And not just for one match, or for one tournament, but day after day after week after month.

    That's what it takes to be #2. Not just brilliant play. Consistency.

    And there is no way to judge consistency from just one tournament. I would love for him to be back - but it is too early to say whether this one tournament is the start of something great or just another flash of brilliance, soon to be swamped in a sea of mediocrity.
     
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  25. baseliner

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    Watched it last night on TTC. Safin concentrated and played well. he got annoyed when Youzny got 2 points in the initial game off the net to break him. Wondered if he would pack it in. When healthy Safin is always a threat.
     
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  26. VictorS.

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    You know, Sampras would often flounder around sometimes at the lesser tourneys. However he had the knack for rising to the occasion during the slams. He built his year around winning slams, and only slams. Everything else, was in preparation for slams.

    Safin's still relatively young and has many years left to achieve grand slam success. I think asking safin, to do a 180 degree change, is probably too much to ask. This guy can easily win at least one slam a year, if he just prepares and focuses properly.
     
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  27. Datacipher

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    Heh, what's wrong with it Retriever?
     
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  28. pound cat

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    Beijing a set up??? Give me a break. Moya and Ferrero were there briefly and mysteriously lost in the first ot second round to go back to Spain to practice for DC. Nalbandian lost. It's hardly Safins's fault that he stuck around and played who was there.
     
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  29. Vlad

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    I believe Safin is playing in Thai Open a week from now. Top 2 players in the world (Federer and Roddick), also Moya will be there. I think that one will be more of an indication where his level is and where he is headed.
     
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    What the hell does it matter, he beat EVERYBODY they put in front of him. Safin has no control over the draw. :roll:
     
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  31. SonicSpeed

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    It was just a playback to the threads of "Why Roddick's draw is a setup"....in attempted humor I think. Cuz Andy could only play who was put in front him too. :wink:
     
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  32. pound cat

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    I'm so used to trying to defend Safin I think it was a knee-jerk reaction. LOL
     
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  33. AndyC

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    :) well I'm sure Roddick supporters have such knee jerk reactions as well. I just hope this is the start of Safin coming back to the fore of the game. Even if the ATP race for this year suggests he's one of the top 10 players he's not really been a factor at the slam events which is where I'd most love to see him doing well.
     
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  34. pound cat

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    As of Sept 20, he's # 8 INDESIT, #9 Entry. Up from 86 Dec. 31 03. These are amazing numbers for a guy who's been written off many times, mostly by himself. He put his mind to winning China Open & did. Hopefully he'll see Slams as priorities as well.
     
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  35. AndyC

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    yup.. I'm a huge fan of his.. as I've poster previously there's only Fed/Agassi who I'd rather watch (and Agassi only because his days are numbered).

    I can only hope this is the start of a renaissance for him. here's to Safin in GS SFs/Finals.
     
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  36. C_Urala

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    I wish I had your optimism, guys... :(
     
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  37. pound cat

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    It's not optimism. It's realism. If he wants to put his mind to it, he'll win. If not, that's his choice. But I'll continue watching the most interesting player, to me, on the tour whatever he does.
     
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  38. Vlad

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    I know it is hard to be optimistic about Marat.. just go with the flow... nothing else you can do...
     
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  39. C_Urala

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    when you begin a statement with "if", it's already optimism :p
     
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  40. C_Urala

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    well, I can become a hater of him. And he'll provide me a lot of satisfaction :p
     
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  41. AndyC

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    u couldn't do that :).. for better or for worse we're all stuck in the unenviable situation of safin fanatics.. well at least we're got an exciting ride! :)
     
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  42. Tennis Guy

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    Yay, he's back in the top 10!!!
     
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  43. pound cat

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    "If" precedes a conditional statement, an algebraic example being if a = 3 and b = 2, then a + b =......? "If has nothing to do with optimisim . I don't hope the answer is 5, the answer is 5, although some smart a** mathematical gurus may attempt to debsate this LOL
     
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  44. pound cat

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    Marat's the optimistic one...looking ahead`to the next title!
     
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  46. C_Urala

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    In attempt of being a smart a**, I'd answer... :lol:
    In your example, optimism is not in your hope that answer is 5. Optimism is in your hope that a is 3 and b is 2. As you said, it's a conditional statement, and conditions may be unrealistic. Yours are optimistic. :p
    And don't call me guru, I know I am. :p :p
     
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  47. pound cat

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  48. C_Urala

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    Blah, blah, blah...
    We've heard this before...
    LOL
     
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  49. pound cat

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    But this time it was said with tears in his eyes!
     
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  50. Vlad

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    A more emotional optimism... it is too early to tell what is going to happen..
     
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