Safin, THE MOST overrated player EVER!

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  1. Benhur

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    I do consider Murray a better player than Safin already, even if he hasn't won any slams. The old question: If I had to chooose one of the two to play for my life... I wouldn't think twice. I'd pick current Murray over ANY version of Safin, for the simple reason that he was completely unreliable.
     
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  2. jaggy

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    The biggest underachiever ever maybe, he was so not overrated.
     
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  3. Mustard

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    Even underachieving, Safin won a lot:

    2 majors
    5 masters series
    2 Davis Cups with Russia
    15 tournament titles in all
    9 weeks as world number 1
     
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  4. Magnetite

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    Safin wasn't consistant, but his best tennis was amazing.

    Players like Roddick and Murray would get destroyed even if they were playing at their highest possible level against Safin at his best.

    He's an underachieving, amazing tennis player.
     
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  5. Limpinhitter

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    Having Ashe and not Laver or Rosewall is worse!
     
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  6. SStrikerR

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    Safin barely gave a crap half the time. If he had, he would have been greater than he was. He had a TON of talent, if you can't see that by watching his matches, you don't even know what you're looking at. Results have nothing to do with it, since mentally he didn't care of just lost it.
     
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  7. FedExpress 333

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    Murray vs Safin:

    2>1

    Kapeesh?
     
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    Lew Hoad, too. probably the more talented Aussie player ever.
     
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  9. Netspirit

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    Safin = Kafelnikov. 2 grand slams both, fluke #1 ranking for the most part.

    Some talent, but not historical figures by any stretch. Roddick, by the way, is in the same category - had he not been American, nobody would be talking about him much.
     
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  10. Set Sampras

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    I dunno.. He did beat arguably the two greatest players to ever live to get his 2 slams in Fed and Pete. The guy obviously could have been a dominant beast. If he just spent more time on the court then he did the bar that is.
     
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  11. Crazy man

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    Hate when people say ignoratn things when talking about Marat. He cared ok. He was cool under pressure serving out for big titles. He didn't care as much as he had too in his better days. He cared a huge amount for the sport in his last couple of seasons. He stated this as the reason he choked more )he did choke many times in 09).



    By the way what idiot would pick Murray over Safin? Do people not watch tennis?
     
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  12. IvanisevicServe

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    Who the heck ranks Safin up there with the all-time greats career-wise?

    The Safin hype is based on his enormous talent, which was never even close to fully realized.
     
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  13. kiki

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    At least, Marat won a couple of majors and was a serious candidate to win any major for 3-4 years...Rios is much, much, much more overrated than him ( his only GS F was in the weak AO and against non champion Petr Korda)
     
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  14. Nathaniel_Near

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    Safin was excellent at ruining Djokovic's bottom.
     
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  15. tennisfreak

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    I put Safin where he belongs, in the category of roddick, chang, hewitt, rafter, ivanisevic, etc. Tier two players who once when they were really on or if the stars aligned would steal one or two grand slams.

    Still pretty elite company.

    Safin in no way could consistently compete with the likes of prime Federer or Djokovic, mainly because these guys play defense and have movement that is just on a different level from Safin.

    Also, I hate it when people talk about natural talent as if it's an entirely physical thing. What about guys like Connors, who mentally was more talented than almost anyone out there?
     
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    Safin: 2 slams
    Murray: 0 sets won in grand slam finals.

    Kapeesh?
     
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  17. sportsfan1

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    I think overrated vs underrated is primarily based on talent. With that noted nobody who has the talent of satin can be termed ovverrated. He handed down straight set losses to sampras and djoker and beat fed in five,all in slams!
    A player with weaknesses /lack of weapons can be called overachiever. Safin was too good for that. All the hard partying hurt his career and that was the weaknessdue to which he underachieved.

    (Typing on a phone sucks!)
     
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