Safin's retirement racket...

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by R1CKSO, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. R1CKSO

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    Well I've seen two Safin exhibition matches now on the senior tour, one with Sampras in China and looks like he used his prestige classic without PJ, and on the other in Malaysia with Agassi and other two players for a doubles match, looks like he is using the newer TGK 237.3, what's intriguing me, is the fact his strings look black, is he using now HEAD's sonic pro and finally left BB original after retirement?
    Does anybody know anything about this?

    THANKS!!

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  2. R1CKSO

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    Here's another:

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  3. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I still can't believe Safin is retired and playing seniors and exos. Fool can toy with the top 10 if he wants to.
     
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  4. Seth

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    Agreed. So much skill. He could easily be right up there, even at his age.
     
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  5. jmverdugo

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    I would say he is no longer making the big bucks and to save some money in strings he using whatever he gets for free, it is not like doesn't get paid if he loses.
     
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  6. R1CKSO

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    I think that too, but I think he never took tennis too seriously, he once said that he was about to retire just before he won his 1st slam, the US Open, he had 18 and he was about to retire, I think he likes to party, have a good time and enjoy life, which is completely valid, he had a great career, but yes, he could have won a lot more if he had focused and believed in himself,
     
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  7. Yourtenniscoach

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    Safin is what Agassi would have been had he not decided to take tennis seriously later in his career. All the talent in the world with all the I don't give a damn to go along with it.
     
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    My favorite player ever. Pure talent. Pure emotion. Never did anything becasue he was obliged to.

    I remember I walked by him after he lost at LeggMason one year. Said, 'Hey,Marat'... He looked at me like I hit on his girlfriend and turned around. Lundgren was chain smoking and Marat refused an autograph for a 10yo with an oversized ball.

    A 'normal' person would've scourned him for his behaviour. I felt like I just walked by Dirty Harry and loved that experience, pure honesty. After a loss, most pros are accomodating to a certain extent. Marat wore his emotions on his sleeve and when he was 'on'.. he was the absolute best.
     
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  9. R1CKSO

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    totally agree... he defeadted federer at his very best prime in 2005, no more proof needed
     
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  10. fundrazer

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    It's not that he really wanted to retire, he just had a period where he was really struggling and began to question himself. Everyone has gone through stages in their life where they have felt exactly the same way
     
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  11. vsbabolat

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    From after his 2005 Aus Open win (which was the last tournament he won)until he retired in 2009 he struggled. Those were some 4 long painful years for him.
     
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  12. R1CKSO

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    That's true as always VS, but I still think he wasn't too focused or determined after that, also injuries were present since those days, I'll take Hewwitt's case for an example, he also won 2 slams, and it's been really long since he has won anything, but still, he tries his best every match, trains hard and gives his best everytime, I remember Safin throwing matches to the trash can from a critical point he missed and that little point then turned into sets and matches, but still for me, greatest underachiever, such a shame time doesn't forgive or allow to remain on the top always...
     
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  13. vsbabolat

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    Since Hewitt's last Grand slam win he has won at least one tournament every year. So a big difference there for Hewitt. The guy is far more stable and competes better. That is why he is still around competing and winning.
    http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Lleyton-Hewitt.aspx?t=tf
     
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  14. ZeroSkid

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    exactly, why does safin do this to us:confused:
     
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  15. R1CKSO

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    sorry my bad, I thought his surgery also kept him away from winning
     
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  16. vsbabolat

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    The last few years he was on tour he was not beating let alone toying with to many guys ranked in the top 10. In his last year his only top 10 win was against Davydenko and he had a losing record at 19-22.
    http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Sa/M/Marat-Safin.aspx?t=pa&y=2009&m=s&e=0

    In 2008 he broke even at 24-24 win-loss. Again his only top 10 win was against Davydenko and a out of form Djokovic at Wimbledon. If it was not for his miraculous 2008 Wimbledon run to the semis he would have had a losing record.
    http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Sa/M/Marat-Safin.aspx?t=pa&y=2006&m=s&e=0

    Safin was burnt out. He was done.
     
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  17. vsbabolat

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    No worries. I liked Safin too. He was very interesting to watch. But the reality is 2007, 2008, and 2009 were horrible years with the exception that somehow he put it together a good run at the 2008 Wimbledon. Other than that it was a poor performance for the most part. That is why he is not playing anymore. 2009 was exceptionally painful to watch especially his losses at Monte Carlo and the French Open when he had those matches in hand.
     
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  18. R1CKSO

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    The djokovic victory, for me, was just a small taste of what's Safin capable, if he had waited a little more and concentrated on practice, maybe he could have regained strenght after surgery and gain more confidence on movement and forehand, which for me, was the shot that he struggled more after it...
     
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  19. R1CKSO

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    The Monte match was against Lapentti right? I can still remember that match if so, he had a match point and ended up loosing in the end. Yes, too sad indeed...
     
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    Yes, thats the match. It's painful watching any player implode.
     
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  21. R1CKSO

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    Safin is as talented as Federer in my mind, but his head betrayed him often, I believe that if Safin had Nadal's mentall strenght, he would have been unbeatable
     
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  22. morten

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    well, he actually lost to Edberg about a year ago...
     
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  23. ART ART

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    Many of the results on the senior tour are "made..." in the backstage ;)
     
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  24. R1CKSO

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    yeah, US open 2000, only showed how good Safin is /was against serve and volley... I find difficult to beleive that he lost to Edberg too...
     
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    And if your grandmother had balls, she would be your grandfather. :)

    Safin was a mental midget. It is amazing he got as far as he did IMHO.
    If he had his head on straight, he would have won a lot more majors.
    But, to paraphrase what he once said, "thinking isn't my game."
     
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    Wasn't Safin elected to the Russian Parliament?
     
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    yes! since late 2011, don't know what kind of things he manages, but it is funny that he ended up being a politician!
     
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    LOL, "thinking isn't my game" he and Gonzalez, for me were the players who stepped on the court and didn't care of what happened, no pressure or strategy, they just played strong and showed more emotions than anybody else on the sport, both of them now, a great loss to the sport, great players to watch!
     
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    Yes! He is on Putin side!
     
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    Man, I don't know what kind of things he is dealing with at Kremlin, but I guess he favors free union, multiple relationships, and probably something with booze!
     
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    I think nobody cares, but I would like to know if that would be a PT10 Prestige Mid, or just a regular Head Prestige Youtek Mid, and if the strings are Head Sonic Pro or Luxilon Savage?

    And what specs would be?

    From the forum I know that Safin's racquet specs were: 336g unstrung, 31.2 cm balance, 335 SW, 4 1/2 grip, Luxilon BBO 29/28.

    Can anyone confirm this? I would be courious to customize a stock Head Prestige Youtek Mid to the same specs and see the results.
     
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  34. Povl Carstensen

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    Last time I saw Edberg he looked in great shape. It was like turning on the TV and seeing something from 20 years ago.
     
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  35. jimbo333

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    Well I've got one of Safin's Dunlop Pro Stock's Head Prestige600 copy's from 2001 and I've looked up the specs I had written down somewhere and they are:-

    Weight unstrung 337g
    Balance point 31.2
    Grip 4 1/2

    Almost identical to what you've just said amazingly:shock:
     
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  36. vsbabolat

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    The last two years he played 2008 and 2009 he used the MG Prestige Mid TGK237.1
     
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    I was afraid that those specs were from the time he used his Prestige under Dunlop paint job.

    I wanted to know the specs of his PT10 from 2003-2008.
     
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  38. kevo82

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    Thanks vsbabolat for the info. The right man at the right place :)
    I wrote you a PM about Safin and Murray's frames (knowing that you owned one)

    Could you tell me what specs Safin used with TGK237.1 in the last year, or before that?

    I would like to try customizing some Prestige Mids, to obtain almost the same specs.

    I would like to try the same with some retail Youtek Prestige Pro, and get almost the same specs that Murray uses.


    So, for now, I have:

    - Safin PT10/TGK237.1 - 336g unstrung, 31.2 balance and 335 SW
    - Murray PT57A - 345g strung, 33.2 balance and unknown SW

    Any help please? (With the specs, strung or unstrung). Thanks
     
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  39. War Safin!

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    That was Safin's last hurrah - and ironically, on the surface and the tournament he didn;t really like much: Wimbledon.

    That match against Djokovic I remember for one shot, when Djoker hit an inside-out forehard to the ad-court and Safin just stepped into it and flushed the biggest backhand-drive down the line you ever saw....sounded heavy...Djoker didnt even move to get that.
     
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  40. kevo82

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    Nobody knows the answer to my question about the real specs of Marat's Prestige, but doesn't matter.

    What surgery??? I knew he had problems with his wrist, but nothing about surgery.
     
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