Sampras black 'O' dampener - rubbish!

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  1. toedragger

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    I've been a die hard black sampras O dampener user for ever. Just bought the new 'black' two pack from TW - and they are horrible. Composition is TOTALLY different. Much harder in material. Abosute crap.

    Just a warning to those thinking of buying the two pack of black only.

    Not sure if the usual red/black two pack is also effected by this rubbish material change. I hope not!
     
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  2. BobFL

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    Hahaaha, I was thinking to post my experience but I was like - Nah, nobody cares about that :D

    I bought 2 B&R packs in my local SpAuth. and the blacks are SUPER stiff. They are so stiff that they do NOT dampen at all. The reds are a bit better but still NOWHERE near as silky smooth (copyright: Zohan) as they used to be. A bit disappointing for a O-damp lovers like myself :)
     
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    Thats pretty disappointing.

    They were the best option for cheap. Now I may have to switch to the Babolats.
     
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  5. ArliHawk

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    See if you can get your hands on some of the Babolat Loony Damps or Wilson Emotisorbs. I really like both of those, as they dampen enough, but not too much.
     
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    Have you tried just a 1/2" rubber grommet from your hardware store? Soft, black, about the same weight as the Sampras, and cheap enough that it shouldn't bother you to toss them out if you don't like them.
     
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    Keep in mind if its too soft they fall out too easily. Softer is not better.
     
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    OP had complained that the new Sampras was to hard. I have been using the grommet in my 18x20 racquet and have not had issues with it falling out. I haven't used it in my open pattern ones.
     
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  9. toedragger

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    My current O dameners are pretty soft and supple - and they work excellent, without ever falling out. Thus the reason I bought the two pack.

    Come to find out, they've totally changed the material and it's quite hard actually.

    Another case of 'manuacturing' change to save .00435 cents per item. Smart decision there. (not)
     
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    I like them. Just enough dampening. The grommets tend to dampen too much. Just my personal opinion. They are harder than the old ones.
     
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    Well, I guess someone will get some use out of 10,000 cheaper than required pieces of crap.

    They are harder because it's cheaper to add more nylon/plastic to the overall composition than actual soft rubber material.

    A choice to save fractions of a cent per item instead of providing the origionaly proven materials that made the item classic.
     
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    I recently ordered a pack with a black and red one..and they are nice..

    Just saw the all black and all white.. ****..
     
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    Wrote a letter to Unique, the manufacturer. They replied rather quickly and said they're sending me replacements free of charge.

    I'll post again once they arrive regarding the material of the replacements. HOPEFULLY my experience was only related to manufactuers defect - and not a actual change in materials.
     
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  14. Harl Goodman

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    I've been on the "Agassi" #64 rubber band for several years now, but I've always been curious about the 'O' dampener.
    Anybody done a head-to-head comparison of the two?
     
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    I used to use the "O" sampras dampener when they came free with a pack of tourna grip. I agree that they feel like hard plastic, rather then rubber.
     
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    I agree...I just picked up a black/red pack today and the black one is noticeably harder than the red one. I've never used the "old" one so I don't know how the red compares to those.

    I also noticed that the black one actually introduces a new "ping" compared to the red one when i hit with it. I switched the two between two racquets to make sure it wasn't a difference between racquets.
     
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  17. toedragger

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    - Update -

    I received the replacements from Unique, and they were nice enough to include a set of Red, and their new set of White. As well as the Black.

    Same issue - black was as hard as a rock. I emailed them again this morning. Red felt as usual, and white was pretty hard. As hard as the incorrect black ones actually.

    They did finally reply saying they are now aware of the issue of the 'hard' black dameners and corrected (ie: proper) replacements will be in stock middle of March.

    Faith restored. Till March of course.
     
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  18. Power Player

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    same here..I had the same response. It sounds so minute, but the hard ones just do not dampen, and it makes your string bed feel weird.
     
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  19. Carolina Racquet

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    I've always preferred the softer red dampeners to the harder black ones. The reds seem to mute the frame more without losing too much feel.
     
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  20. corbind

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    Yea, I was doing some research over here

    http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/3526/=gd517o

    and it seems soft rubber is the way to go. And that follows just instinct that soft rubber would dampen more than anything hard. I'm gonna pick up some tiny o-rings there.

    Most 1/4" or less outer dimension while being 1/8" or less thick. 100 in a pack for like $2. So I'm going to buy a few packs of different sizes and dump them in my tennis bag as an experiment.

    When was the last time you saw an opponent with 30-something dampeners on his stick? Never? Yea, it's illegal in USTA but I don't play that or tournaments so I can have some fun...
     
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  21. Orion3

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    Think the original Sampras dampeners WERE 1/2" rubber grommets.

    I grabbed a dozen from my local electrical wholesaler recently for free - the sales paperwork costs more than the goods.

    In the past I've had hard ones - just go to another wholesaler or wait till another batch comes in.
     
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  23. ArliHawk

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    Definitely notice this for sure. My softer dampers (Babolat Loony Damps/US Open flame dampeners) do better than the harder ones (Wilson Emotisorb).

    What's funny, though, is that some of the harder ones (like the emotisorbs) seem to soften over time.
     
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  24. redbirdone

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    I recently picked up a package of the Sampras dampeners to give them a spin. It was the one black, one red pack and the red one does feel more gummy bear like. However, I still prefer my Yonex dampener...
     
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  26. max pl

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    tried out the white ones yesterday and there is something off about them.
    racquet vibrated quite a bit compared to my older red ones.

    wont pick up any more of these until i read that the new ones have been improved.
     
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  27. ramos77

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    i changed to the normal "w" wilson absorber and got rid of the sampras one, racquet feels better and the sound is much nicer.

    I think...
     
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    oh great. I just ordered some in black on TW. I hope they are the softer ones. If they are hard plastic like the head microgel one these are going to be a waste.
     
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    Good news..Unique just sent me 3 dampeners. Red white and black. they are all nice and soft again.
     
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  30. toedragger

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    - Update -

    Just as the above post, Unique sent me three replacements yesterday. One each of black, red, and the new white. They're perfect. Just like they used to be !!! Glad they remembered, impressed actually.
     
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  31. ArliHawk

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    Wow, sounds like great customer service. Love seeing them stand behind their product.
     
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  32. kopfan

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    I had the same problem with my pack of red/black. The red is soft/flex but black is really hard and actually deformed after remove from racket 24 hrs later.:(
    Emailed unique and see what can be done.:-|
    Can't believe these problem had occured after using their o damp for years.
     
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  33. max pl

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    how did you guys go about getting replacements?

    i have a pack of whites that are rock solid that i'd like replaced.

    is it as simple as emailing them with my contact info and they send me new ones? do i need proof of purchase?
     
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  34. wrxinsc

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    I have switched to the prince one you insert, twist, and push up into place because the little pete samprases have become rubbish. just thought i would share. :)
     
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  35. toedragger

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    I just emailed the Unique customer service dept. They've realized the problem, and have sourced out proper damener material once again.

    You'll probably receive a relatively prompt positive reply.

    No proof of purchase was required. We're talking about rubber grommets essentially, not plasma televisions... (ha).
     
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  36. kengan

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    So I'm assuming the new ones being sold at TW are not the same as the ones talked about in this thread, correct?
     
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  37. Faithfulfather

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    Yes. That is correct. I called them yesterday and the lady on the phone acted as if she had never heard of this problem. She asked me to email the sales department. We will see the results. I am sure this will be resolved. I have three packs of useless dampeners.
     
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  38. Faithfulfather

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    I received an email from them this morning. Here is the email:


    Thanks for you email Cory. Sorry to hear you received defective ones. We
    are aware of this and have recently redesigned them. I will send the new
    ones to your address below.

    Thank you for your support with Unique Sports Products.

    Abby Brunelle
    Unique Sports Products,Inc.
    840 McFarland Pkwy.
    Alpharetta,GA 30004
    P: 770-442-1977 ext 257 F: 770-475-2065
    abby@uniquesports.us
    www.uniquesports.com



    Tourna-Grip Player Victoria Azarenka Wins Australian Open -- New #1 in
    the World !!!







    -----Original Message-----
    From: Cory Williamson [mailto:faithfulfatherof2@gmail.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:22 PM
    To: sales@uniquesports.us
    Subject: Tourna Dampeners


    I have been a long time user of the Tourna Pete Sampras dampeners.
    Recently, I purchased 3 packs of the black and for some reason the
    dampeners seem harder. I believe they have even introduced a new pinging sound to the racquet. I was wondering if a new material has been
    introduced or if I just received a bad batch. I love your products as I
    currently use Tourna Grip and Big Hitter Black 7 strings. Both of those
    products are great and worthy of the Tourna name. I have to admit to
    being disappointed in the new Pete Sampras dampeners. I hope this issue is resolved quickly as I find these to be subpar to older formula. Thank
    you for your time.

    Cory
     
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  39. toedragger

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    For what it's worth, Abby is the same person I was working through as well. She was very responsive.

    Glad to see them stepping up - and fixing this classic piece of tennis equipment.
     
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  40. Fearsome Forehand

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    You can buy a big bag of #64 rubber bands at Walmart for about a $1.

    The blue rubber bands they use on broccoli in the grocery store seem to have special damping properties so I recommend those. They are also a excellent source of second hand fiber. :)

    Rubber bands were good enough for Agassi, Todd Martin, Mark P, etc. Good enough for me. Work great and almost never fall off if tied properly.

    I think there was a time when Pete must have had a lucky dampener because he only came to the court with one and would switch it to another racket when he changed frames. I think later in his career, he had them in all his frames when he came on court.

    All vibration dampers do in practical terms is change the sound when the ball is struck from a ping to a pop.

    Some dampers are made of stiffer plastic than others. I had a hell of a time trying to get one in recently. I think it was a Volkl? Pain in the ass.
     
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    You shouldn't be putting them in your ass.
     
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    That is funny crap right there, I don't care who you are.
     
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    Haha. Brilliantly funny retort if you are about 12 years old. :roll:

    No, it wasn't a suppository dampener, you sick twisted freak. I meant putting it into a racket, of course. A figurative pain in the ass, not a literal one. :)
     
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    i got an email from Abby this morning as well.

    only after emailing her did i realize that i'm *****ing about a 2 dollar item. oh well...
     
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  47. Fearsome Forehand

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    As far as Sampras Unique Dampener, you could just use a rubber grommet from the hardware store.

    Round with a groove, made of synthetic rubber (neopryne). Come in various diameters. About $1 each if bought separately. Maybe less if you buy a bag of them. Look exactly like the Unique product without the lettering.
     
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    The new square Babolat dampeners are so goaty that I think my new samprases cme too late.
     
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  49. ArliHawk

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    So they are similar to the round ones, but actually stay on?

    Loved the round ones, but they would fly from time to time.
     
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    Red ones are softer.
     
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