Sampras goes to Babolat! (pics incl.)

Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by The Pure One, May 22, 2010.

  1. movdqa

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    > I don't, as I'm simply not willing to speculate on how a racquet
    > plays for a pro, let alone a great, other than to say he must
    > prefer the new frame.

    > You're telling me Pete isn't enough of a competitor that if he
    > finds a frame he can thump a bit more with, he's not gonna
    > enjoy smoking his old mates a little bit more?

    You wrote both.

    Appears you just wrote a contradiction.
     
  2. OrangeOne

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    See? I clarified what I meant by thump about 5 posts ago. If you're going to dissect things I write, don't skip posts....
     
  3. movdqa

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    I read it. I just didn't believe it. I guess we'll chalk it up to your poor writing skills.

    thump Pronunciation (thmp)
    n.
    1. A blow with a blunt object.
    2. The muffled sound produced by or as if by a blow with a blunt object; a thud.
    v. thumped, thump·ing, thumps
    v.tr.
    1. To beat with or as if with a blunt object so as to produce a muffled sound or thud.
    2. Informal To beat soundly or thoroughly; drub.
    v.intr.
    1. To hit or fall in such a way as to produce a thump; pound.
    2. To walk with heavy steps; stump.
    3. To throb audibly.
     
  4. OrangeOne

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    Do you enjoy this style of debate? Ignoring when people clarify their own comments, debating endlessly?

    I don't. I also don't think you have a single clue about how a tennis racquet performs for Pete, because...you simply don't.

    I'm out. Have the last word. Insult my writing skills again. Dance the funky chicken, I couldn't care less.
     
  5. movdqa

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    > Do you enjoy this style of debate? Ignoring when people clarify their own
    > comments, debating endlessly?

    Yes.

    > I don't. I also don't think you have a single clue about how a tennis racquet
    > performs for Pete, because...you simply don't.

    I do know physics and I did place caveats in my statement.

    > I'm out. Have the last word. Insult my writing skills again. Dance the funky
    > chicken, I couldn't care less.

    Have a nice day.
     
  6. LPShanet

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    Why? They stopped paying him. Would you keep showing up to work if your company stopped paying you one day? More to the point, would you keep showing up if you didn't work there any more? There's a (not so fine) line between "loyalty" and psychotic behavior.
     
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    Bingo. I've read this entire thread since the day it started. More than one poster has lamented Pete's lack of loyalty to Wilson without regard to the fact that Wilson lacked loyalty (and cash) towards Pete. If Pete got into conversations with Justin and Andy about Babolat racquets and decided to try some out, especially considering he was already very familiar with the company, more power to him. He has to do what is best for his body and his career for the rest of his playing days, and if his contract with Wilson was written in air, he had every right to try out other products.
     
  8. luishcorreia

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    I guess the KPS88 is two demanding, even for sampras.

    No trainning that mutch and with the years going by, maybe he needs a stick with more pop.
     
  9. dreamcatcher18

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    Thanks for sharing.
     
  10. rh310

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    I hit with a PSTGT this weekend on the basis of Sampras using it now, and my liking the original PS mid and KPS88.

    Maybe it was the string (Black Code 17 mains, X-One 17 crosses, both at 56 lbs) but I thought it felt like complete crap.
     
  11. JoelDali

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    Good assessment.

    They are total crap and Pete won't be seen with one again hopefully.
     
  12. Pioneer

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    I'm more interested in how it's set up. I don't think he can manage 400g anymore.

    Apart from that, I don't think anybody besides the pros [and some forum members] swears by a specific frame or setup. I understand why a pro would want 1000 sticks that are made from the best graphite, with the best poly and gut, that feel totally the same. Using a bad stick for a pro would be like going to work in underpants for a banker. But for the recreational players, I think it's a bit over the top to want the same quality gear as the people who earn their living playing tennis. Not even the former pros care about their gear anymore.
     
  13. baseline_monster

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    I would be shocked if the weight was massively light, the weight ads to the power. I'm guessing Nate Ferguson is doing the changes
     
  14. Pioneer

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    I expect it to be a couple of grams lighter than the PS85s he used. After all, the frame is already more powerful than the 6.0 to begin with. I think I see lead at 3&9. Maybe he uses his old specs, dunno. It would be interesting to see what changes he would make to the weight and balance after switching
     
  15. zorg

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    So, if Pete wasn't sponsored by Wilson and just used the PS 6.0 because it was the best racket for him, why did he still put on a Wilson stencil on the strings?
     
  16. JoelDali

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    Cuz a PS85 without a stencil looks stupid.
     
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    ---edited out..rather not waste time.
     
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  18. nat75

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    Ummm..there are a lot of misconceptions on this thread. The Pure Storm is a racket to get more control not more power. First of all the head size on the whole line fluctuates from 95/98 sq. in.
    Then the stiffness for each of them is:
    Pure Storm Limited and Limited + 67ra
    Pure Storm 69ra
    Pure Storm Tour and Tour + 69ra

    Against:
    Pure Drive Roddick and Roddick+ 74ra
    Aero Pro Drive and Drive+ 72ra

    A stiffer racket gives you more power.
    A more flexible racket absorbs energy and gives you more control.

    And Sampras used Babolat strings. The switch is not that crazy.
     
  19. LPShanet

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    Actually, the current Pure Storms are much more flexible than you state. The Ltd is in the 59-60 range, and the Pure Storm about 63-64, with the Tour versions being in the 61-63 range.
     
  20. nat75

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    Thanks for updating the those numbers. ;) My point was that the Pure Storm line was the control orientated racket on Babolat's catalog. Not the other way around.
     
  21. Harry_Wild

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    When I was in High School tennis; I was playing with the Wilson PS 85 but they said they would only supply me with two rackets and the rest I had to pay for. Well, I end up with the Dunlop Max 200 - McEnroe used it! Dunlop treated you right and they even offer free shirts and shorts. Wilson did not! I came away with the impression they where a cheap outfit! I did go back to the PS 85 after college. But if Pete has change; I going to go demoing rackets too! I will try the RPM strings too!

    Wow! Never thought Pete would leave Wilson; but I guess he had no loyalties to Wilson and neither will I.
     
  22. airdupont

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    where's the pic?
     
  23. tennis4josh

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    Agreed that Pure Storm is control oriented racket within the babolat line. But for someone moving from a KPS 88, the bigger head-size will be more forgiving for sure, and add power too.

    -Josh
     
  24. Harry_Wild

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    I don't need the power at all; but more forgiving will be nice but I do not hit many off hits but sometimes I completely miss the ball when there is a wicked spin curve shot.

    Well, I decide to string a completely new racket that I purchased a while back for a bargain. It a Head Liquidmetal Flexipoint 98 Midplus racket. 2007 era?? I' m stringing it with Nadal/Samprass strings RPM at 57 pounds.

    Not sure how it will hit but if Samprass likes it; I should too! Copycat I know but someone has to be; why not me?
     
  25. Pioneer

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    Wow you bought a nice racquet then


     
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    Thanks. I will post my report on the Head Prestige in a couple of weeks. Time for me to have some hitting time with it! Hopefully, I will love it! If not; I will go back to Babolat Xcel Power 17 or string it with Natural Gut!
     
  27. tennis_balla

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    Not sure why people are saying Sampras bailed on Wilson or that he should be loyal to one brand. If anything, he is! He's had a Babolat sponsorship (strings, VS gut) a lot longer than he was with Wilson. So he's going with a company he knows very well, its nothing new to him.
     
  28. MichaelChang

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    You have to realize "Wilson" is his wife's name. You know that right? The word "Wilson" should mean a whole lot to Sampras. :)
     
  29. MichaelChang

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    Sampras is still using Babolat, as of Sep 18.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Wilson!!! WILSON!! Come back Wilson!!!

    [​IMG]
     
  31. JediMindTrick

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    Wilson's racquets are pure garbage, of course people are going away. They got lucky with Federer, but, as soon as Federer retires, the slide will accelerate.
     
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    If she's as nice as she seems, I'd trade one Wilson for the other any day. Her beauty sure does help.
     
  33. slice bh compliment

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    Guessing Bridge does not care that he left the racquet company that happens to have the same name as her maiden name.

    He clearly wasn't getting the big bucks to stay, and he switched to something he likes. What's not to respect about that?
    Allez Pete!

    I am surprised Pete's using the PSTour instead of the PSLimited. When I first tried the Ltd, I felt it was a modern pro staff with woofer system and a 95 head. Love it. I just assumed all aging players would see it as a bridge between the 80s and the current era of frames.
     
  34. staedtler

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    Maybe if he got like a custom PSL with a 16x20 string pattern. I agree thats def more of a bridge than a regular PST.
     
  35. Edberg

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    Of course Sampras can play with whatever suits him. Its just disappointing. Its like watching someone who you looked up to for years suddenly driving a Daewoo or using a cane when you know they can sprint like Usain Bolt. Just sucks.

    Long live Wilson flat beams.

    Babolats are for kids.
     
  36. JoelDali

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    There has not been one credible press release, interview, public confirmation, or acknowledgment from the goat himself or from Babolat that he has switched or signed or has accepted $ to endorse, use or promote chick sticks.
     
  37. Edberg

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    Its the photos bro. Its like your good friend stabbing ya in the back and twisting the knife. What the frick is worse?

    Ill get over it.................in a few years.
     
  38. Kemitak

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    I felt worse when I saw Boom-Boom hitting with an odd collection of 100 sq in Volkls. I don't understand how power players (even retired ones) can play with over-sized racquets.
     
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    I am in complete shock. I can't believe he would do that. What about that customized K ProStaff 88 Wilson gave him? This is crazy.

    But I love it. Go Sampras, and go Babolat!
     
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    Well you shouldnt, he never played a 100 or oversize racket, when he joined Volkl he tested the Q10tour which he liked a lot, that is not a power stick at all, nothing has changed since then...
     
  41. MichaelChang

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    I feel bad for those who bought a bunch of PS85 and worship the "St. Vincent" as the god of tennis rackets, and those who even bought KPS88. After all, those rackets are NOT going to make you play your best tennis. Hell no. Face it, accept the fact. Even Sampras moved on, he turned to the "dark-side", he enjoying the "power" of the dark-side. "More Power", says Sampras. Yay. Congratulations Pete, you have completed your training, you are now a new Babo-lord.
     
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    Here you go if you wanna see it in print


    (not just the frame, but the strings as well - he's playing for fun and paid vacations with some cash on the line, he can use what he wants)
     
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    im not suprised he went to BABOLAT... he has had a relationship with Bab his whole career..
     
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    I just bought a St Vincent from a nice fellow in California that said he had over 50 Pro Staff 85's! I can't wait to get my "god" racquet.

    I guess we will never know if Sampras is playing with the chick stick because Babolat paid him or if he just likes it.
     
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    The St. Vincent, KPS88 is a great racket for the purist with text book, advanced strokes.. I have played tennis over 30 years now and these are still the best weapon I ever played.. Yes, I also tried Babolat AeroDrive, AeroStorm, PureStorm with tune up similar to Kps88 but somehow I shank more balls than hitting with a St. Vincent or a Kps88.. It's just totally difference feeling when you whole a St. Vincent.. No,.. Sampras is not my idol in anyway..
     
  46. MichaelChang

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    You are the last Jedi. May the force be with you.
     
  47. VGP

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    Nope. I think he's saying, "more spin."
     
  48. MichaelChang

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    You are under-estimating the power of the dark side...:)
     
  49. VGP

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    Well, the Babolat PST with RPM Blast does look very Sith-like.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Guys....Give Pete a break.....

    He's getting old.... needs some 'oomph'

    If he was in his 20's I'm sure he'd be using the AeroPro Drive GT.. :smile:
     

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