sampras on fire!!

Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by Young Pete, May 29, 2007.

  1. Young Pete

    Young Pete Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    904
    Location:
    nor cal
    #1
  2. asintu

    asintu Professional

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2005
    Messages:
    973
    Wow........
     
    #2
  3. BreakPoint

    BreakPoint Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    43,260
    Scary!

    If Federer watched that video before his exhibition matches against Sampras, even he'd be scared going in. :-o
     
    #3
  4. jelle v

    jelle v Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2006
    Messages:
    2,965
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    Wow... absolutely stunning tennis from Sampras.
     
    #4
  5. War Safin!

    War Safin! Professional

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2005
    Messages:
    1,247
    This clip illustrates:
    a) what a great offensive player Sampras was.
    b) what a great returner Agassi had to be.
    c) how Federer dominates today's players in a similar fashion*





    *(but who aren't anywhere near Agassi's level) ;)
     
    #5
  6. Baghdatis72

    Baghdatis72 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2006
    Messages:
    2,239
    Location:
    CY - UK
    That's a great exhibition of talent and power by Sampras :eek:
     
    #6
  7. Solat

    Solat Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2006
    Messages:
    1,242
    my hero, i play that style of game, and use the 6.0 so i can look like that....



    ...well its nice to dream... :D
     
    #7
  8. AgassiFan12

    AgassiFan12 New User

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2006
    Messages:
    98
    WOW!! WOW!! and WOW!!

    I sometimes forget how dominant Sampras could actually be. Especially against my boy, Agassi. I never appreciated Sampras when he was having his run because I was too busy being mad at him for nearly always beating Andre, but when I see videos of him it makes me upset that I didn't appreciate him when he was around. Oh, well thank god there is you tube and DVD's to buy!
     
    #8
  9. oscar_2424

    oscar_2424 Legend

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2005
    Messages:
    7,239
    Location:
    Hallandale, Florida
    great video, thanks for sharing
     
    #9
  10. armand

    armand Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2005
    Messages:
    3,747
    Location:
    RDS001 90: SPPP 1.18 @ 63/61
    Agassi at the height of his powers. You gotta feel for Andre there; he was finally the Prom Queen(#1 in the World) but here comes Pete grabbing some thunder both at the Wimbledon final and here at the year's end Championships.
     
    #10
  11. Fedace

    Fedace Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2006
    Messages:
    23,292
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    #11
  12. CEvertFan

    CEvertFan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2007
    Messages:
    2,057
    Location:
    NJ, USA
    Sampras was clearly in the zone that day. On every shot he could do no wrong. You always knew when Sampras was at his best because of the way he hit the backhand, because when he wasn't playing his best and he wasn't confident that was always the 1st shot of his to go.
     
    #12
  13. drakulie

    drakulie Talk Tennis Guru

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    24,464
    Location:
    FT. Lauderdale, Florida
    ^^^^ So true. His backhand that day was absolutely scary. Pete in no way allowed AA to dictate any point from the baseline. As soon as AA would start a cross-court rally (BH to BH), Pete would go for broke >>> and was nailing it. Time and time again. His serve was also unbelievable. One of my favorite matches to watch.

    Although Pete says the 99 Wimbledon win was the best he ever played >> I disagree. I think this is the best I have ever seen him play.
     
    #13
  14. tHotGates

    tHotGates Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2007
    Messages:
    227
    There's a slew of Pete zoning matches on youtube. In fact, it seems like all of Pete's matches are on youtube (except Pete v Lendl 90 USO .. grumble). Check this link ....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esbvf2RJXDQ&mode=related&search=

    Other notables:

    Pete v AA 96 SJ (both complete match & mini clip)
    Pete v Chang 94 USO (both complete match & mini clip)
    Pete v Courier 92 USO (complete match)
    Pete v Agassi 99 Wimby (complete match)
    Summer & Spring of 99 (complete matches)
     
    #14
  15. War Safin!

    War Safin! Professional

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2005
    Messages:
    1,247
    Sampras - Agassi, Wimbledon Final 1999 is still the benchmark of being 'in the zone', IMO.
     
    #15
  16. noeledmonds

    noeledmonds Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Messages:
    920
    The 1999 ATP World Championship Final was a remarkable performance by Sampras, but I agree with "War, Safin!" here that Sampras's best performance this year (and probabely ever) was the Wimbledon final. Even Federer's best single matches (to date) don't match up to the way that Sampras demolished Agassi at Wimbledon that day. It was not the score line, it was the way that after saving a break point in the 1st set Sampras never looked vunerable. Agassi hit barely any unforced errors, but Sampras had an answer for everything. This was one of the best grass court performances of all time.
     
    #16
  17. ShooterMcMarco

    ShooterMcMarco Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Messages:
    3,017
    Its crazy how much the ball explodes off the court on his serves
     
    #17
  18. BreakPoint

    BreakPoint Bionic Poster

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    43,260
    That's what happens when you use a 14 oz. small headed racquet strung with gut with the perfect service motion. It's like pounding nails with a hammer! :-o ;)
     
    #18
  19. ShooterMcMarco

    ShooterMcMarco Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Messages:
    3,017
    Lets see what he can do with a 14 oz k-factor :p
     
    #19
  20. kirbster123

    kirbster123 Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2006
    Messages:
    382
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    Amazing match. Anyone know exactly what string he used, and what tension he strung his racquet at?
     
    #20
  21. War Safin!

    War Safin! Professional

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2005
    Messages:
    1,247
    From what his stringer at the time states, Babolat VS gut 17 strung at 70-75lb, on a racquet leaded up to 380g...
     
    #21
  22. shiva29

    shiva29 Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    102
    i agree with "war safin". The 99 wimbledon final was the best performance i have ever seen!!
    the most impressive with pete was his serve! the best ever for sure!
    if Fed had sampras's serve he would beat nadal 8 times on 10!
     
    #22
  23. War Safin!

    War Safin! Professional

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2005
    Messages:
    1,247
    That's just it - over the last 6 months, Federer's serve has really dipped.
     
    #23
  24. shiva29

    shiva29 Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Messages:
    102
    he does not get a lot of free points with his serve!! unlike pete!
    bad for him
     
    #24
  25. pj80

    pj80 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2007
    Messages:
    491
    No doubt pistol played impressive against agassi in wimbledon 1999 and in masters that same year. But somehow I think he played his best in 1997.

    Look at these highlights from paris 1997 http://youtube.com/watch?v=tpPDFuP7nZE
    and masters 1997 http://youtube.com/watch?v=BTpfaT8fduE

    look at his movement, he was much quicker than in 1999, also his ball placement was incredibly efficient, and of course the power in his shots was insane. That Sampras vs. Federer today would be awsome to watch.....
     
    #25
  26. CEvertFan

    CEvertFan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2007
    Messages:
    2,057
    Location:
    NJ, USA
    IMO Sampras had the best 1st serve and especially 2nd serve ever in the men's game. Textbook service motion and done with effortless ease. Agassi had one of the best returns of serve ever in the men's game and even he often couldn't handle Pete's serve.
     
    #26
  27. A.Davidson

    A.Davidson Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2007
    Messages:
    617
    Once again, the "Federer is to Sampras as Nadal is to Agassi" comparison has to come into play here - both Nadal and Agassi are/were so talented, and they had the task of playing arguably the greatest player of all time. Luckily for fans, it was and is always interesting.
     
    #27
  28. Fedace

    Fedace Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2006
    Messages:
    23,292
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Has anyone here tried to copy Sampras's service motion ?
     
    #28
  29. Young Pete

    Young Pete Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    904
    Location:
    nor cal
    \\

    MAN PISTOL PETE OF 97 MOVES LIKE A RED HOT FERARRI. FULL OF POWER. YET SO SMOOTH.
     
    #29
  30. tenniskid3119

    tenniskid3119 Semi-Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2006
    Messages:
    582
    Location:
    East Texas
    amazing. thats why he's one of the best
     
    #30
  31. Fedace

    Fedace Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2006
    Messages:
    23,292
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    You know when sampras does that hot shot jump overhead, he goes crosscourt with it about 90% of the time, i don't why guys doesn't just guess crosscourt everytime on it ?
     
    #31
  32. psamp14

    psamp14 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2005
    Messages:
    3,301
    WOW........pistol pete would scare the life out of anyone with that game.....so dominating, such power, precision, accuracy, and hops! :)
     
    #32
  33. ShooterMcMarco

    ShooterMcMarco Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Messages:
    3,017
    IMO he prances around like a deer (which isn't a bad thing), Federer is a little more smoother. Both effective ways to move around the court ;)
     
    #33
  34. tHotGates

    tHotGates Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2007
    Messages:
    227
    I think Pete moves more like a cat (quick, fast, & agile) if I had to make an animal comparison. Roger is definitely the smoother of the two ... Fed's footwork is really beautiful to see.

    If I were making the ultimate Sampras, I would take athletically peak Sampras of 1995-97, then combine that with 1999 experience savvy Pete, & finally & very importantly include or equip Pete with a modern K-factor racquet.
     
    #34
  35. chiru

    chiru Professional

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2004
    Messages:
    1,455
    I have. I donno how much i look like him, but i'd say for my size (about 5' 5", 5' 6" and i have the biggest serve on my D-3 socal team) i'd say its worked alright.
     
    #35
  36. Young Pete

    Young Pete Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    904
    Location:
    nor cal
    pete combined with a st. vincent produces such a beautiful way to play tennis. it also has to do with his choice of weapon. his st. vincent is like his paintbrush and pete is the artist. try a st. vincent you will know what i mean. i've never seen a player except maybe a henin hit like that. fed plays more of an ugly tennis. just watch how pete at times improvises, so unique. he's like a jazz musician on court!
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2007
    #36
  37. Phil

    Phil Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2004
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    In a tent, along the Silk Road
    Pete would have played well using a whisk brush. Racquet brand is way overrated in judging a player's abilities. It wouldn't have mattered what BRAND of paintbrush Van Gogh used...his ability as an artist would remain the same. Bad analogy, but nice try in trying to sound "smart".
     
    #37
  38. tennis_hand

    tennis_hand Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2006
    Messages:
    4,427
    Pete and Fed play different style of games.
    Pete is a S&Ver who needs to rely on his serve a lot to get points.
    Fed is an all-courter, set up the game, and win the points. Fed mixed up with a lot of variety. He doesn't have to rely on his serve as much as Pete does to win. This all ensures the beauty of Fed's game.

    Thank God our current No1 is not another pure boring S&Ver. ;)
     
    #38
  39. Young Pete

    Young Pete Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    904
    Location:
    nor cal
    a deer would not dare to serve and volley. IMO pete = prancing horse = ferrari
     
    #39
  40. Young Pete

    Young Pete Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    904
    Location:
    nor cal
    do u have classic strokes and have you ever played with a st. vincent? try it you will know what i mean. but only pete can truly master the brush.
     
    #40
  41. knasty131

    knasty131 Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2005
    Messages:
    1,059
    Location:
    Killeen, Tx
    notice how it says highlights??? lol how about all of sampras' winners for the match???
     
    #41
  42. ShooterMcMarco

    ShooterMcMarco Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Messages:
    3,017
    Well if hes a horse, then he gallops.
     
    #42
  43. Phil

    Phil Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2004
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    In a tent, along the Silk Road
    I use a racquet that is not much bigger than a PS85, but so what? Pete is Pete...the racquet doesn't make all that much of a difference. If you think it does, maybe you don't know very much about tennis.
     
    #43
  44. Young Pete

    Young Pete Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    904
    Location:
    nor cal
    dude i know pete is pete the point im trying to make is only pete can truly use the st. vincent to its full potential. i give up.
     
    #44
  45. Phil

    Phil Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2004
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    In a tent, along the Silk Road
    Edberg, Courier, Graf, Evert and a young Federer didn't do to badly using the St. Vincent. Y

    ou SHOULD give up. You're barking up the wrong tree. It isn't the stick...it's the Playa.
     
    #45
  46. Young Pete

    Young Pete Professional

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    904
    Location:
    nor cal
    ok i agree with you those players u mentioned are well respected in my book too. question: did fed and pierce really use a ps sv or just a ps 85?
    i know edberg used a chicago. courier a sv, graf used a 200g for sure. evert probably a sv, i know jen cap used a taiwan 85 i believe.
     
    #46
  47. Phil

    Phil Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2004
    Messages:
    3,877
    Location:
    In a tent, along the Silk Road
    I thought Graf, at one point, used the PS...maybe it was just the 7.5. She switched from Head to Wilson in the early 90's, I believe.

    What is the DIFFERENCE where the racquet was made? You young guys are totally hung up on this...I bet you could not tell the difference, if you didn't know, between using the SV and the Taiwan sticks. Would Capriatti have played any BETTER if her racquet said "Made in the USA" rather than "Made in Taiwan"? No.

    It's all about the brand name with you. Like the snobs who will only drink FRENCH wine and not touch the Caliifornia or Australian stuff...even though those wines are, sometimes, better. If you want, I can find you some mint SV's. I know a store that stocks 'em...depending on the condition, the price is between $300 and $750. What a rip!
     
    #47
  48. tHotGates

    tHotGates Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2007
    Messages:
    227
    re: racquets ..... true Pete (a tennis prodigy) can just about turn or use anything for a racquet to beautiful use .... but I put emphasis on the K-factor racquet because of Pete's recent comments of improved ground strokes & player & fan statements (see McEnroe) to the same effect.


    On the issue of "these are just highlights" check out the final stats of the matches cited & you will find a dominating performance by Pete.
     
    #48
  49. laurie

    laurie Guest

    That 1999 ATP final is incredible. The German Master of Ceremonies interviewed Pete after the match on court and reminded Pete that Pete said he wanted to use that match as a test for next season (due to been off with a bad back for much of the Autumn) The German MC asked almost in exasperation - "Is this the way you test?!"
    That brought a smile to Pete's face!

    Some of Pete's other very best performances (and I recommend Pete fans to get ahold of these matches):

    1997 Davis cup semifinal v Rafter (Rafter was slaughtered)
    1990 US Open semifinal v McEnroe
    1993 US Open quarterfinal v Chang
    1999 Cincinatti semifinal v Agassi (the second set is absolutely somethng else, against a great player not a mug, for 25 minutes that's the best he's played. I'm sure the people in the stadium that day will not forget it for a long time)
    1997 ATP final - v Kafelnikov
    2000 US Open quarterfinal v Krajicek
    1996 ATP final - v Becker
    1996 US Open final - v Chang
    1998 Vienna quarterfinal - v Henman (6-0 6-3 in 45 minutes!)
     
    #49
  50. The Gorilla

    The Gorilla Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2006
    Messages:
    2,495
    why have you stopped posting matches laurie?
     
    #50

Share This Page