Sampras prototype?

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  1. BreakPoint

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    Hmmm.....isn't 88 also bigger than 85?
     
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  2. VGP

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    It seems they've kept the old Pro Staff wide red stripe with the juxtaposition of the thinner yellow stripe, but in looking at the single pic it seems the paintjob lacks the "flow" of the previous versions.

    I'm sure Wilson were compelled to maintain continuity of the cosmetics with the current K-Factor line. From a distance, it'll just look like a classic black racket anyway, but up close, it's just ok. It seems the old frame is classic 80's style, whereas this frame looks like cheesy 70's style.

    I guess it's a "Monet" of a frame.

    ...but, it's nice to see Pete's sig on it......they've even managed to squeeze in the old "PRO STAFF" in the old font on the side, too.
     
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  3. VGP

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    He didn't say he was gonna go play matches with it.

    I'd get one just to get one........

    ....even though I'm not sold on the cosmetics. One looks like a 70's reject frame, the other looks like a used bloody Kleenex.
     
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  4. BreakPoint

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    You're right. Personally, however, I only buy racquets to play with and not for any other purpose.
     
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  5. Speedygonzalez

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    Is this for real or is some forum member very skilled in either photoshop or paint jobs?
     
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  6. jcstennis

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    those are some long pieces of leather under the racquets :)

    it would be nice to see the number 14 somewhere on the racquet... maybe on the butt-cap.

    K Pro Staff pj around the throat is nice, but the hoop looks... well, that may take some getting used to!
     
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  7. BreakPoint

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    It's real. It's from the Priority One website: http://www.p1tennis.com/contact/
     
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  8. theProdigy

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    wow...i didn't think i'd ever see it. if TW is taking pre-orders anytime soon, they can put me down for 6 of em.
     
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  9. leonidas1982

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    expect to see him use it at LSU against Blake on December 14 and at London's Royal Albert Hall -- also in December.
     
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  10. Speedygonzalez

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    Thanks! Feel bit disappointed though, thought it would be a good joke:).

    However, I don't like the PJ some so much. Why mixing up a simple and clean pj with these IMO ugly Kfactor cosmetics?
     
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  12. sureshs

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    I think they want to make sure people realize it is a K Factor and Wilson is not backtracking
     
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  13. sureshs

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    With my skills, I can play with any frame. Or rather it is unlikely to make a difference in the results ...
     
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  14. sureshs

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    See what happens when you are away from the board for a while
     
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  15. jazar

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    there is no point in estimating the specs when we already know that the headsize is 88 square inches and the unstrung weight 340g. if people bother to read all the other weekly threads that have been started on this racket then they would know that, cos i posted it ages ago after wilsons guys actually told me them
     
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  16. theProdigy

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    could we possibly see it release by christmas??? i'd spoil myself if it did...but i have a feeling we'll see it AO time like along with everything else that comes out for the new season.
     
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  17. leonidas1982

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    which thread was that in? there are several sampras prototype threads. thanks.
     
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  18. sureshs

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    Why 88? Was there ever a confirmed 88?
     
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  19. plasma

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    ProStaff on Acid

    groovy, but why 90? seems kinda vanilla when pistol pete made his name with the 85, before max factor, I mean k factor was the new "cosmetic" (pardon the pun) on the same ol crapstaff.




    Fischer Vacuum Pro 90
    with vintage technifibre 505 at 46 lbs.


    Maybe Connors was great despite the T2000 and not because of it???
     
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  20. Alexio92

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    I might get myself 1, even if it is just to look at however bad it looks/play.
     
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  21. [d]ragon

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    yea i dont like the pj at all. it just doesnt look right. plus, i never really liked black, red, and yellow together.

    hope they also come in a 95 tho
     
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  22. MonsieurCrocodile

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    I quite like the new style. I think it's a perfect blend of old and new; Sampras and Federer, if you will!
     
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  23. forehand2theface

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    i'd buy one just cause itll be a collectors item along with my dad's old ps 85 :)
     
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  24. VGP

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    I'd consider using the racket if it's similar enough, if not better, than the PS85.

    Plus, I can still use my favorite ORANGE overgrips!

    BTW, looking at the pic it looks like the "S" in in PRO STAFF is a "lazy" S. What's up with that?
     
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  25. FedererForehand

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    Its beautiful.
     
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  26. OleNole

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    I've never bought a Wilson, but I might make an exception here.
    Wonder if any tour pros will use it, or at least the pj?
     
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    Give me THAT......NOW!
     
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  28. matchmaker

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    I hope it will be a bit more flexible, say 63 RA like the good ol' st vincents.
     
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  29. matchmaker

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    The paintjob looks okay to me, one could guess they would come up with something like that.
     
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  30. leonidas1982

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    Could be, but i think they'll use one similar to the k90 for the modern appeal.
     
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  31. zidane339

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    Looks sweet. Like a blend of kblade with k90
     
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  32. BreakPoint

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    Hmmm....the St. Vincents are supposed to be stiffer than the other versions because they were thicker at 18mm. It is said that Sampras liked the stiffer feel of the St. Vincents.
     
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  33. Fedace

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    So what is the difference between the Pete sampras K factor and Federer's K-factor, they look very similar. Which is more Powerful ??
     
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  34. stormholloway

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    I love the paintjob. I expected some hi-tech mumbo jumbo, but this is nice.
     
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  35. stormholloway

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    Uhhhhhh..... it's a picture. And what a strange question....
     
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  36. Fedace

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    So are same racket with different PJ ?? Is that what you are saying ? I don't think so. this racket was made specifically for Pete. i suspect it is more powerful since it has a thicker beam and he is a old man now so he needs more power or needs a game improvement racket..:)
     
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  37. leonidas1982

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    Pete's is 88 sq in. As for power, I suspect it might be a bit lower than the k90.
     
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  38. stormholloway

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    The racquet isn't made for Pete. It's made for a market. Welcome to economics 101.
     
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  40. BDAZ

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    i see what they were trying to do with the pj, and it's kind of clever, but that thing is ugly.
     
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    most of them
     
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  42. pennc94

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    Well, according to Greg Raven:

    http://hdtennis.com/grs/pro_racquet_specs.html

    Pete's SV has an RDC stiffness of 62.
     
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  44. matchmaker

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    Thanks for backing this with facts, I was just about to do the same.

    St. Vincent and Chicago models were more flexible than later Chinese and Taiwanese ones.
     
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  45. matchmaker

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    Weight does not change the flex of a frame.
     
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  46. matchmaker

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    That is just the point, if they make another K90 with a different paintjob, what is their target market? It should be different to make it interesting.
     
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  47. leonidas1982

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    I would argue that 88 sq in and a lower strung weight is different from the k90.
     
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    I have heard this countless times, but I still don't get it. to me, the SV feels softer at impact. I don't know why..the Taiwan version feels very stiff.
     
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  49. sureshs

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    No reply from Wilson yet. Have I shaken up the boardroom with my question?
     
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    Ahhheemmmm! PC officer! :)


    This racket is just a k90 with a paintjob... but I'd still buy one.
     

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