Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Cacoepy, Jan 20, 2013.
And you, don't you want to take off your anti-Fed shades off to be fair?!
The option was not "any serve you like," but "Sampras' serve." As such, why don't we quit bringing Karlovic's serve into the equation? Otherwise, in point of fact, some might be interested in having, say, a peak Fernando Gonzalez's forehand instead of Federer's-- but again, that isn't the question.
Of the two strokes, I would certainly prefer Sampras' serve, because the serve is a more important stroke than the forehand; if you had no other major assets to back either stroke up, you could still win quite a few matches on the strength of that serve, while the forehand wouldn't do you nearly so much good.
Please, Roddick's serve is nowhere near Sampras's. No player would rather face Sampras's serve than Roddick's. Most people do consider Sampras the greatest server of all time btw, especialy when taking into account the second serve.
The forehand is the most important shot in tennis, and I'd choose Federer's forehand as the greatest tennis shot ever.
Some say Karlovic got to nº14 in the world and one Wimbledon QF with basically a great serve.
Alberto Berasategui had a great forehand, a horrendous backhand (he always tried to only hit forehands), a horrible serve (he was only 1.72 m or 5' 8'' ) and good legs. He got to nº 7 in the world, was runner-up at RG and won 14 titles. He was basically a great forehand.
Fashionable as it may be on internet forums to look down on Roddick, Roddick hit more career aces, fewer double faults, had a higher average first-serve percentage, and had a higher career service-games won percentage than Sampras.
Depends which Federer forehand - Fed forehand from 2006 or Fed forehand from 2013.
Fed's forehand isn't what it used to be.
Nope, Roddick is terribad.
On the other hand, I checked serve statistics for Sampras and found that on all the points that Sampras cared about, he hit a second serve ace. One hundred percent!
Don't forget the fact that Roddick accomplished all of this under slower conditions as well.
Sampras had a great serve (first and most so second serve), yes, but I think many people overestimate it.
Wayne Arthurs, Goran Ivanisevic, Richard Krajicek, Michael Stich, Mark Philippoussis, Guy Forget, obviously Boris Becker, Mark Rosset,.....those were some players from his era that made, at least, equal or more service points (aces+unreturnables per match played) than Sampras.
With Sampras (like it is with Federer), it is the whole package that was such successful.
career hold percentage:
so roddick has actually a higher hold percentage dispite playing his whole career on slow courts against grinders and baseliners.
karlovic and isner also have higher hold percentages than pete.
I'm not sure if I would call petes serve the best ever.
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