Sampras' Serve

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  1. iradical18

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    Just been sitting here watching a video clip of Sampras' serve, man it's so perfect. So fluid and effortless. ugh, makes me mad lol.
     
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  2. SonicSpeed

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    Yea and Pete = bane of Andre's tennis existence lol
     
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  3. iradical18

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    lol right on
     
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  4. sliceroni

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    All his body parts were so n'sync with each other, so efficient he can serve in the 120's near the brink of death as he did so many times. Check out Stich's too, even more effortless.
     
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  5. jmckinney

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    I have to agree with that, Stich had the most beautiful serve ever. Just so fluid and natural. Pete's was good and near perfect but nothing compared to Stich's. Man, Stich just really should have won more slams than he did.
     
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  6. edge

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    Where can I get a video of Stitch's serve? I remember it being a fluid bomb.
     
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  7. Kevin Patrick

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    One remarkable aspect of Pete's serve was his ability to hit so many different types of serves with the same toss/swing. In his prime many players remarked about how difficult it was to read his serve. Here's a great article about the biomechanics of his serve:

    http://www.tennisserver.com/set/set_03_09.html
     
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  8. Kevin Patrick

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    http://www.tennisserver.com/set/set_03_11.html

    "Some might think of motion analysis as a cold dehumanizing statistical tool. However, for myself, the harmonious patterns of Sampras' serves brought a sense of beauty to the game and awe of the human body's ability to achieve such repeatable high levels of performance. It was like looking at dance choreography."
     
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  9. Brettolius

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    Sweet links,interesting stuff.i wish they told you how Sampras can get that kick without tossing the ball behind him.
     
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  10. Bhagi Katbamna

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    Sampras cannot defy the laws of physics so to hit a kick serve, he had to contact the ball from 7 o'clock to 1 o'clock direction. The way that I think he did it was to lean in and toss the ball less forward than he usually did for a slice or flat serve.
     
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  11. Cigo

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    His footwork, along with Henman, Mac(although extreme), Federer and Blake(I think) seems confusing to many, well I've had several coaches tell me different things. Some say that the rear leg is not active in the push, that it just helps with the balance. Others tell me that both legs push almost equally. And then there was this one coach that told me that the weight is in the rear leg during the tossing motion and only start to move over to the front leg near the completion of the knee bend.

    Since we are kinda on that topic, would anyone care to explain how the legs do their part in this kind of serve. Perhaps the ones I mentioned are variations?
     
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  12. Lambro

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    serve

    Cigo your last example is right.

    Look at Roddick, Agassi & Sampras, they all keep their feet in the same "zone" throughout the serve motion (as opposed to the trailing foot gliding in, Malisse, Lubicic Henneman come to mind)

    Weight should be on the back foot when tossing and most of the push off should be of the front leg. Imagine standing sideways to a fence - then try to jump over it - which leg to you push off with?, front one right?. Back leg is used to rock, balance and get it started.

    Also the weight being on the back foot for the toss usually confuses people because they think in absolute terms. Its a fluid transition.

    Finally the hip, the trailing hip needs to swing around - if you push off with your front foot but fail to get your training hip around...well prepare to eat felt.

    -G
     
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  13. Cigo

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  14. Dranguyengon

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    How did you view those files?
     
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  15. iradical18

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    Ya cigo, how do you view those files that are like .2t or .3f? The AVI's are fine but i dont know how to do the other ones
     
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  16. Cigo

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    I just right click and save as the .avi files.
     
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