Sampras still has the pistol serve and brilliant volley... (Sampras vs Ginepri exo)

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  1. jaykay

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    Sampras played Ginepri in an exhibition match (FedEx Cup) here in Dallas, TX y.day. I had really good seats and thoroughly enjoyed this match.

    The 1st set was very well fought with Ginepri holding fairly easily and Sampras struggling to hold on his serve (several deuce games). Sampras suddenly stepped it up towards the end and won the 1st set with a solitary break; 7-5. The 2nd set was Pete all the way; he broke Robby in the very 1st game of the 2nd set and took charge from there; 6-3 to Pete. Pete still has the laser FH and delectable touch at the net. Ginepri is quite ripped and his FH's were jumping off the court (wristy stroke). The match was played indoors on a very fast mat.

    [Yeah, yeah, I know that Pete has been losing to the Sam Warburg dude of WTT but I thoroughly enjoyed Pete's game y.day...]

    Strangely, Pete had the Babolat stencil on the stringbed of his Wilson frame (I hadn't seen that before).

    I have taken several hi-speed pics of the famed Sampras serve and if somebody could tell me how to upload them here, I'll be happy to do so.
     
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    imageshack.us to upload the pics. After getting the link, put [​IMG] around the link and post it
     
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  4. Fee

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    Sampras has had the Babolat stencil under his Wilson stencil for years.

    Thanks for the info Jaykay. :)
     
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    Or, just use Photobucket and it gives you the codes for the forums/messageboards. I don't remember if Imageshack does that too.
     
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    Its better to set up a photobucket account if you will continue to use it. Imageshack photos seem to disappear periodically (I've had a few problems with them in the past, it could just be personal experience).
     
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    Thanks Fee, JasonCho, TennisPro: I'll get around to uploading the pics in a day or two max.

    Fee: I do recall seeing the Babolat stencil on Pete's racquet below his Wilson stencil earlier. Y.day, he just had the Babolat stencil though (no Wilson stencil) on his stringbed. Wouldn't that be a violation of his lifetime contract with Wilson? Not that I care... just thinking out aloud...!?!
     
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  8. Fee

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    I didn't know he had a lifetime contract with Wilson, but if he does he should have had the stencil on there. Strange, I wonder what is going on there... Hmmm...
     
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    he doesn't have a lifetime contract with wilson, the only player to do so is federer
     
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    If he had such a good serve, he wouldn't be playing deuce games no matter how bad the rest of his game was. Especially against Ginepri.
     
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    Yeah he beat Ginepri... Federer won't sleep tonight.
     
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    Was this thread about Federer at all? Really strange how every thread becomes a celebration for Fed/Rafa trolls...
     
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    Hmmm. Yet another armchair preacher...

    Ok; why don't you share your detailed impressions on a match you didn't see? Pray, go ahead...
     
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    yea was this in Texas? my friend went to go see it yesterday. lucky him. i'm kinda mad that i missed out on a legend
     
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    The babolat stencil under the wilson stencil on sampras racquet is not a news...

    In 90's many raquets had the "babolat" (or better...2 stencil stripes") stencil under the brand stencil..
     
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    is Sampras moving/running well? i'm curious to know if he can still hustle and scramble on the court. or does he just let a lot of shots go, and try to win on his serve?
    also, did it look like Pete was getting over powered by the groundstroke rallies, or could he hang in there and hit about as hard as Ginepri? because i'm one of those people who don't buy the whole "today's players hit harder" opinion.

    now actually, Robby Ginepri is a pretty good player. he's ranked around top 40 in the world. and 2 years ago he was ranked around top 15, plus he made it to the semis of the US Open.
    this win is a good sign for Sampras. hopefully he'll draw some confidence with it, going in to face Federer.
     
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    Some brief Sampras/Ginepri Youtube highlights.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Dkar3SKPk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm6KlDqT-z0

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    More on Pete:

    Sampras edges Courier; exhibition raises $16,000
    By James Beck (Contact)
    The Post and Courier
    Monday, September 24, 2007


    Pete Sampras and Jim Courier didn't quite look like members of the over-the-hill gang Sunday afternoon at the North Charleston Coliseum. They appeared to be as fit as in their prime, and a crowd of about 2,500 showed its appreciation.

    Courier, the television analyst, was left talking to himself by a couple of Sampras' running forehands down the line. And then when Sampras cranked up his serve, Courier couldn't talk his way out of trouble.

    Grand Slam title record-holder Sampras turned up the heat after dropping a first-set tiebreaker and left town right after the Legends of Tennis match and on-court ceremonies ended with a 6-7 (5), 6-2, 10-6 victory over his longtime buddy.

    The real winners of the exhibition, other than the crowd, was the MUSC Children's Hospital that will receive a $16,000 donation — $8,000 from contributions received Sunday and a matching amount from former tennis pro Bill Przybysz's Miracle Match Foundation.

    "It's good to have fun ... I still love to play," Sampras told the crowd.

    After leaving the ATP Tour following his 2002 U.S. Open success that saw him capture 14 Grand Slam crowns, Sampras left tennis until he came out of retirement to join Courier's Champions Tour earlier this

    year. "I missed tennis," Sampras said.

    "We were playing a good level of tennis," Courier said. "Pete was just serving beautifully the second set."

    Sampras dominated the third-set match tiebreaker by winning seven of his eight service points. "Pete has just such great rhythm on his serve," said Courier, 37, whose InsideOut Sports and Entertainment group sponsored the Miracle Match Tour event.

    Courier, who won a pair of French Opens and two Australian Opens, appeared to have fun throughout the match as he repeatedly communicated with the audience.

    Cremins/Courier win

    In the celebrity doubles match that preceded the Sampras-Courier main event, College of Charleston men's basketball coach Bobby Cremins teamed up with Courier for a 6-2 victory over Sampras and Gov. Mark Sanford.

    The highlight of the preliminary match came two games from the end when Gov. Sanford motioned for his teenaged son, Marshall, to take his place as Sampras' partner. Marshall immediately flashed the skills of a high school tennis player as the Columbia Heathwood Hall sophomore drove a forehand down the line past Courier. But Courier and Cremins managed to close out the match in the next game.

    http://www.charleston.net/news/2007/sep/24/sampras_edges_courier_exhibition_raises17019/
     
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    Yes, I have seen this before (Babolat stencil below Wilson stencil). However, if you look at my post (and the pic in tHotGates' post above), there was no Wilson stencil on Pete's stringbed; only a Babolat stencil... which intrigued me.
     
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    Yes, abenguyen; this was held in the Dallas Stars (Dr.Pepper Center) stadium indoors in Frisco, TX. Frisco is a suburb of Dallas. Yep, watching Pete was fun...
     
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  20. jaykay

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    2 cent: I had exactly the same questions as you, going into the match. Pete does not hustle/scramble well as he used to earlier. He still has the serve, delicious volley and an outstanding FH; but has noticeably slowed down. In the 1st set, Robby was guessing right on Pete's serve and the longer the point went, the better it was for Robby; since he was winning a lot of points on Pete's serve. I don't think handling Ginepri's power was a prob with Sampras; since Pete was hitting as hard, if not harder (esply on the FH side). Movement was a few steps slower from a few years ago... and this was quite apparent. In the 2nd set though, Pete was a completely diff animal altogether. His serve was pretty much unstoppable and his volley putaways were sweet; he totally dominated Ginepri in the 2nd.

    I must also mention that for an exo, these guys were competing hard. I have seen exos before between Roddick and Dent; Blake and Fish; and those guys fool around quite a bit. Sampras and Ginepri did fool around and entertain the crowd... but REPLAYED THE POINT IF THEY DELIBERATELY FOOLED AROUND! Pretty competitive stuff, I thought. I enjoyed the match...
     
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  21. TheNatural

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    so Sampras took a set to warm up, then thumped the world # 64 who trains and competes full time. Impressive!

    Sampras is obviously playing under conditions that benefit all of his opponents, they all grey up with the new technology strings, whereas Sampras never grew up developing his game under the new technology strings during his pro career, so theres a big advantage to the current pros , but Sampras is doing well considering.

    Pretty amazing actually, that he can beat a pro after not competing professionally for 5 years!
     
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    Wow. In appearance, he aged a lot, with that hair lost. I wouldn't know it was him in those videos if I wasn't familiar with how he hits the ball.
     
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  23. hes had the babolat stencil for quite some time. i believe (just a thought) he is sponsored by babolat for strings cuz i believe he uses VS gut.

    lookin at his racquet in the picture, its obviously a PJ n6.1 (big news *sarcasm*) cuz the shaft is longer and it also looks like the string spacing is 4 on the PWS
     
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  24. 2 Cent

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    that's great news to know he still got his serve & volley game working. and his forehand still hitting hard.
    but yeah, i do recall a seeing a slowed-down/step-slow Sampras in his latter years on the tour. particularly starting at the US Open final in 2000. he lost to Safin that year, then he lost to Hewitt the next year. he looked slow as hell out there. and even the next year in 2002 when he beat Agassi, for his final match. if Sampras was already a step-slow back then, i would imagine he'd be just as slow, if not slower now.
     
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    Great to see this.. does anyone have any more extensive youtube highlights?

    Call me skeptical, but I'm seriously doubting that Sampras can actually beat Ginepri if he played seriously. In his prime...there would be no contest, of course. But now, I honestly do not think he can beat anyone in the top 100... I doubt anyone could at that age, after taking that long of a break (especially since he had some sort of blood disorder)
     
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  26. DashaandSafin

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    Its an exo people. Since when have touring pros put 100% into an exo? Oh wait, never.

    Gneps would beat Sampras had they played in a real tour level match.
     
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    AVMOGHE ...... oh so out of nowhere Ginepri is gonna become this different player and beat Sampras in a real tournament??? Dont blind yourself. Sampras may be slower but he still is Pete Sampras. And about the age thing, trust me, Agassi could still beat alot of players in the top 100 with a back problem. I think Sampras can to.
     
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    Not to mention Sampras hasnt played a tour event. Which means if a player like Ginepri will go up a level, its likely so will Sampras, which he could probley sustain for a few 2 out of 3 set matches. You know Pete wasnt born yesterday in tennis. He knows that would happen.
     
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    I doubt it. Ginepri beat Sampras in their first exhibition in straight sets. They've played quite a few exo's since then and I believe Sampras has thumped Ginepri each time. That would get on a man's pride. If Ginepri was intentionally losing, he'd at least take it to 3.

    And that link above...holy sh*t.
     
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    That would be cool if he could go far in Wimbledon serving and volleying.
     
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    C'mon guys he's still a legend,i'm sure there are a number of guys in top 100 he could beat in best of three,yes he aged a lot and moves a lot slower but he can still play at very good level considering his age
     
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    Of course... its an exhibition... same type of match in which Roddick beat Federer. No. It's not Pete Sampras anymore...

    I don't trust you because Agassi did not take a 5 year break at 32 years old. Not to mention, Agassi was far fitter than Sampras (later in their respective careers).

    If Sampras had the real ability now, he would play a tournament on the real tour... not line up exhibitions. I'm not the one with blinders on... its you who needs to understand what "exhibition" implies. About the only place I can imagine him doing any damage is on a fast grass court... but we don't really have those anymore..
     
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    I totally understand what yours saying. But you are saying he wont beat anyone in the top 100. Thats a pretty bold satement. I never said he would win a tournament either. But some matches ?? Yes he will. The older he gets obviously it well get harder. But I think Pete stays away from the tour cause he knows winning tournaments is almost impossible for him now, but getting a few wins here and there isnt what hes about. And as fit as Andre was, he is still a little older than Pete, not to mention his injury is a little worse.
     
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