Santoro's thoughts on the 20 #1's he's played in his Career

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  1. GoDawgs2011

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  2. JoelDali

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    Yeah, this was posted the other day.
     
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  3. rommil

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    But thanks for reposting it. It's a great read and interesting perspective from Santoro.
     
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    Sorry guys, I looked through the last couple of days before I posted but I must have missed it. I kinda figured there was a chance it was a repost though cause this forum is pretty quick to post things like this.

    Rommil: I agree, its a great read!
     
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  5. Cesc Fabregas

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    Santoro seems to think Nadal and Sampras are the best he's played against not Federer.
     
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    LOL. Reading comprehension fail?

     
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    lol Was just going to post that. Wow, fail.
     
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  8. fed_rulz

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    really? why am i not surprised?
     
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  9. sureshs

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    I read the opposite in the interview.
     
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  10. rommil

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    Cesc is actually borderlining retardation......and that's being generous.
     
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    good article!
     
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    Great Article. LOL at Cesc's reading comprehension fail.
     
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  13. tacou

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    only part one was up on the original post so thank you!
     
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    Do you have to deny everything a pro player opinions when it comes to Roger is the greatest?

    This isn’t the first time Santoro have said Federer is the best. And it shouldn’t be surprise to you or anyone.
     
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    No matter the repost.The more Santoro threads there are the better!!!!:D

    Cesc just reads what he wants to reads.In general this is just his way of interpreting reality.
     
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    he thinks i'm one of the worst posters in TTW... :cry:

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    Santoro isn’t the only one Cesc is having comprehension problem, but he also have problem with Andre, Pete, Henman, Mac and many others.
     
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    Actually Gorecki I share that opinion with Cesc about you that way I will have company in that list.
     
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    oh... that is sad news!
     
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    LOL..........hey you like Deadmau5? Saw him live at NYC the other day.
     
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    nope... never heard... but if you sugest, i'll look out for it!...

    how do they sound?
     
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    Gorecki and rommil, im delighted that you hold me in such high opinion.
     
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    actually i am sad... the fact that you dont like me is pretty frustrating.. we could be friends. i have lots of toys!

    [​IMG]
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsrcGEqWQdE


    This is from the actual show and one of my fave songs on the new album. He's a DJ from Canada. Look for his other songs like Arguru and Brazil.



    Oh and to make this thread relevant, Fabrice Santoro was there lol......
     
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    wicked sound... :)

    i'll compile a few bands from my country that you might enjoy...
     
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  26. rommil

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    No problem Cesc. Now grab a bib, there's drool dripping on the side of your mouth.
     
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    Thanks. I can try and do the same thing but I'm afraid you will be scarred for life.
     
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    here you go:

    ranging from "trip-hop" to "afro-house" to "indie americana", a taste of the other side of my country... :)

    Blasted Mechanism – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=540XKx2l_Ds

    Coldfinger - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTbKxFYR4dg

    Margarida Pinto (coldfinger’s vocalist) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL-cB3OIG2s
    (based on a poem by fernando pessoa)

    Mesa - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyaRHszKtRU

    Buraka Som Sistema (feat. M.I.A.) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CkXhtw7UNk

    Cacique 97 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-XiFHo78Cg

    Johnwaynes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_1J1V7erjA

    Tiguana Bibles - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uesIFDs7Rq8&feature=channel

    DJ Ride - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gq2EukK900&feature=channel

    legal free e.p. downloads of up and coming bands here: http://www.optimusdiscos.com/

    Santoro would like them...
     
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    Guysssssssssss...THIS is a thread about Santoro!!Have some respect!!!!!!

    You can go post this all you want in the Simon Reed thread.:p ;) j/k
     
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  30. rommil

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    Among them I really liked Pinto and the Buraka songs but DJ Ride takes the cake for me. Thanks....



    I used to listen to this band called Soulfly and I don't know why I got reminded. Oh yeah, Max sings Portugese in some songs but he's Brazilian I think ( if that's not an ignant thing for me to say lol).


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtfwO_3vJD4

    Fabrice listened to Soulfly earlier in his career......
     
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  31. rommil

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    Sorry...........back to thread.
     
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    Thanks for the repost.. I had missed the article. Some really interesting and first hand (racket) insights.

    Really Cesc, either you were going out on a limb to be a WUM (Wind-Up Merchant), or your interpretation of what Santoro says borders on the downright ludicrous!
     
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    What's amazing is that he's actually beaten 17 of them!
     
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    I was thinking that myself. This was a really cool article, I liked what he said about Connors especially, giving the guy credit for still being able to play good tennis at 40 years old...how many people out there would be able to hold there own against pro's half their age...not to many. This was cool, nice to see the respect for all the greats...and to see how many he has actually played.
     
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  35. Don't Let It Bounce

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    Thanks for posting; I would have missed a good article otherwise.

    Santoro comes across as a good-humored guy, especially by the often narcissistic standards of the pro tour. Of course, it would be weird for a humorless, angry dude to play the kind of game Santoro plays.

    The tour will be lessened in his absence.
     
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    no... not at all. brazil speaks portuguese. in fact we are very close as brother countries. very litlle to none rivalries

    fabrice doesnt speak portuguese but likes our country very much...:)
     
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    This made me LOL. It's going to be very interesting if he decides to coach. You figure it's only a matter of time before he gets to be captain of the French Davis Cup team. I wonder if they'll even let him play on the senior tour. Not that they play for real anyway, but his game would seem capable of posing some really unique problems for those guys and their creaky knees.
     
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    "When you play tennis, playing Federer is kind of a dream because you can see he does everything you would love to do on the court." -Santoro
     
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    Definitely impressive. However, what's not really impressive is that his career record is just slightly above .500 (no insult to Santoro intended, he's great fun to watch).
     
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    Cesc, what part of "In my opinion he's the best player ever" did you not understand?
     
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    Nice that his best memory playing Federer was that 2005 US Open match, as i was there in the stadium and also have great memories of it myself.
     
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    I think their standards are currently "held a top 5 singles ranking, been a Grand Slam singles finalist, or a singles player on a Championship Davis Cup team." Santoro never had a top 5 ranking or a GS final. He has played singles for the French Davis Cup team, in the years that they won... but not in the final tie. Does that count? I can't tell. I would guess not, but I don't know.
     
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    Tennis is sort like MMA, where even Hall of Famers have a lot of career losses. 470 wins during a 20 year career for a guy with a two handed slice forehand is pretty impressive to me. That's .514.

    Rios: .670
    Moya: .645
    Kuerten: .647
    Courier: .681
    Ferrero: .651

    And he was 35-53 against the number 1 players, for a winning percentage of .397. I wonder how Santoro stacks up against other players who reached a career high of 17. His longevity is incredible.
     
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    Ahhh, I thought you just had to be on a winning Davis Cup team. Maybe they'll make an exception for him the way they did for Bahrami, Haarhuis, Bates, Steeb, Ferreira, and Novacek. I hope so. I would like to see him play in person someday.
     
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    Gotta admit that what he said about Marcelo Rios made me feel warm and fuzzy.

    "He's one of the biggest talents we ever had in tennis in my opinion".

    Thanks Fabrice, I knew it already but it's good to have some feedback. :D
     
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    Well, some of those probably got in by wildcards - each tournament is also allowed one wildcard, can be given to anyone.

    But Ferreira seems to be a regular, and I don't think he ever got to #5 or a Grand Slam Singles final or a winning Davis Cup tie. So maybe they do just make exceptions when they feel like it. I don't get it. Good call.

    (I just got the qualification information off the champions series website, but I don't see them following their own rules now that I look at the player list...)
     
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    A professional player who's played so many #1's. His opinion really counts. Pretty good proof that Fed is way better than Sampras.
     
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    Even if it was posted earlier, I missed it, so I appreciated this chance to catch the article. Very interesting, fun to read! Thanks for sharing it.
     
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    I believe only the first set of number ones was posted, so this thread is good. I enjoyed reading this second set.
     
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    I agree, Santoro's opinion that Fed is the GOAT certainly counts more than any of us here, and even more than most tennis experts. He is one of the few players to have played Sampras and Fed in both their primes, and considering how many other tennis greats he has played, he would definitely have valuable insight on who is the better player. Even though Agassi was by far a greater player than Santoro, and also played both Samp and Fed in their primes (and also thinks Fed is better than Samp), Santoro's opinion would probably be worth even more than Agassi's because you could say that Agassi might be biased towards Fed since he likes Fed more than Samp. I would think Santoro would have a much more neutral, fair opinion of each player, since he has huge respect for both men, and would be one of the most qualified people on earth to judge who's better, Fed or Samp.

    What's more, his record against Sampras and Federer speaks volumes: 3-4 against Sampras, just about 50/50, whereas he is only 2-9 against Fed, with both of Fed's losses coming in 1999 and 2002, both well before Fed's prime.
     
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