Senior NTRP question

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  1. NoSkillzAndy

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    Does anyone know how playing in a Senior USTA League affects one's NTRP rating? Obviously the level of competition is going to be less than a normal adult league, so players that already do well at their level in adult play would be likely to dominate at their senior level. My question is: would that drastically affect their NTRP rating or are the results in the senior divisions weighted less in the computer to reflect the predominantly weaker competition?
     
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  2. Geezer Guy

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    I'm 55 and play a lot of both Senior and regular Adult league tennis, as well as NTRP tournaments. The level of competition does not drop off as steeply as you might think. For one, there's a LOT of guys that play in both leagues, so you're playing against a lot of the same players. For another reason (around here anyway) the Senior leagues play only Doubles. A lot of Senior players that maybe couldn't keep up with a 25 year old opponent in Singles and hold their own pretty well in Doubles.

    As for whether the Senior matches are weighted differently than Adult matches, I have no idea.

    Ideally, though, one's age would have nothing to do with one's NTRP. In a perfect world a 25 year-old 4.0, and 40 year-old 4.0 and a 60 year-old 4.0 would all be fairly closely matched. (And, that would certainly be a lot easier to program. Imagine if the NTRP algorythm had to allow for age differences when computing NTRP level.)
     
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  3. goober

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    I haven't seen any USTA senior leagues that are not doubles only. What I have found is that senior doubles players are in general much better than younger doubles player at NTRP levels 4.0 and below. At 4.5 the big serves and bigger groundstrokes combined with more consistent play from the younger players tend to even things out although there are still plenty of senior players that can hold their own in 4.5 dubs.
     
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  4. coloskier

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    I can agree with you. There are a lot of old Satellite Pro players playing in the 50 and 55's right now. Better be prepared to play against a lot of GOOD S&V and a lot of skidding shots below your knees.
     
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    This was discussed during our spring captains' meetings and our local league administrator said that matches in normal adult league and matches in senior league are weighted equally for NTRP purposes. Whether that is a local, State, Sectional, or National rule -- I don't know.
     
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  6. NoSkillzAndy

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    I figured the results would probably be weighted equally. Thanks for the confirmation. I'm in the Texas Section by the way, so if anyone knows for certain what the rule in Texas is please let me know.

    As far as senior league being better at doubles, I remain rather skeptical. Older players are generally craftier and more consistent, but that doesn't necessarily translate into high level play. I know there are some top-notch players out there in the senior divisions, but they are the exception rather than the rule. From my experience the average senior player is more of a hack...
     
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  7. jrod

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    I play both and I have to agree with this assessment. The senior dubs are much more seasoned dubs players all having excellent tennis IQ's. They know how to play smart doubles and don't over hit or try and over power their opponents. The quality of dubs play is much higher for a given NTRP level (4.0 or 4.5). More of the points are earned than forfeited on UE's. About the only thing that the senior level seems to lack is pace and weight of shot.
     
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  8. Geezer Guy

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    sez No Skillz Andy.

    sorry - it made me chuckle.
     
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