Serena fined $175,000!

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  1. batz

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    Serena fined $165,000!

    Half suspended. Also has a suspended 3 year ban from the USO.
     
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  2. settolove

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8363873.stm
     
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  3. Seany

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    Jesus....that seems a rather harsh punishment /sarcasm
     
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    So, to be clear - the current penalty she got for threatening the life of an official is about 20% of what she won at the U.S. Open, and that could go up to 40% of what she won and a suspension if she does it again?
     
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  7. jrod

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    A fine of a $82.5K and a probationary period of two years?
     
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  8. MichaelChang

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    so she is not really banned from any tournament, as long as she "behaves"?
     
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  9. batz

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    That would be correct.
     
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  10. settolove

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    Pretty much and I think this ban only applies to the US Open.
     
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  11. MichaelChang

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    this is pretty lame. She pretty much got out of it without any real punishment.
     
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  12. She cant play the USO until 2013 ???? :shock::shock:

    175,000 USD is a fair punishment imo.
     
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  13. batz

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    They are saying pretty much the same thing. BBC just clarify that it is possible for Serena to be banned from USO 2012 as a result of any future misbeahaviour before 01/01/12. So while the period of her required good behaviour is 2 years, the impact of non-adherence extends to USO 2012.
     
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  14. COPEY

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    Probably even more amazing than than the topic of this thread is that all of you are surprised. A pro football player got 3 months in jail for vehicular manslaughter, which in my view is far worse than Serena's verbal threat. I'm certainly not implying that it should've gone unpunished (and harshly), but I'm not surprised that given what she rakes in it amounts to nothing more than mere pocket change.
     
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    No - it's suspended. That's what she gets is she misbehaves again. Half her fine (which is 165 k not 175 - my mistake) is also suspended - so she pays $82.5k now, and would be have to pay the same again plus serve a 3 year USO ban if she misbehaves in future.
     
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    Yeah, but he can't play football for now, as he's been suspended for the 2009 season, and it's yet to be seen if he can get his career back on track later. A presumably hefty financial settlement with the decedent's family is probably what kept him from further jail time. He's also under house arrest for two years, probation for eight years, and can never drive in Florida again.
     
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    wow... $82.5k bet that hurts...and a suspended 3 year.. (not really a ban). They really hit her hard. Nice work..ITF,USTA and WTA. Total joke.
     
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    Babcock said a “major offense” under Grand Slam rules is “any conduct that is determined to be the ’major offense’ of ’aggravated behavior’ or ’conduct detrimental to the game.”’ There is no specific definition of what sort of actions constitute a “major offense.”He said the highest possible fine that Williams could face — $175,000, if she violates her Grand Slam probation — was chosen because it is the difference in winnings between reaching the quarterfinals and semifinals at the U.S. Open. The $10,000 Williams already was docked by the USTA will be counted toward that total; that’s why she is paying half of $165,000 now.

    During the Sept. 12 match at Flushing Meadows, the foot fault — a call rarely, if ever, made at that stage of such a significant match — resulted in a double-fault for Williams, moving Clijsters one point from victory.

    The foot fault call was a joke.
     
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  19. malakas

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    yes.I know pretty harsh for a lifethreat :rolleyes:

    But what hurts more for Serena now is her pride.:)
     
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  20. SteveI

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    The call was not a joke.. it was the right call. Her reaction was is way over the line and she was let off with really no penalties.. but no surprise. The lack of no real sanctions is a joke. Yes "pretty harsh for a lifethreat."
     
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  21. COPEY

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    Yes, and you just made my point - for "taking" a life that's a slap on the wrist. Money and spending two years in your own home? lol The 8-years probation is meaningless, and as for never driving in Florida again...please.
     
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    Oh yes because the rules are jokes.
     
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    Huh? This article said $82k and a probation at Majors - does not mention a 3 year ban from USO.
     
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    I guess it's a good decision, part of the reason for it is the image of the game.

    82 grand is little for Serena so that didn't hurt her and since it is a probation period she just has to keep her nose clean.

    She needed a probation period, linesman shouldn't feel any kind of intimidation at all, it could effect the calls.
     
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  26. batz

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    If Serena misbehaves in such a way again between now and 01/01/12 then she will be banned from the following USO. For a three year period, it is possible for Serena to be banned from the USO is she repeats her behavour.

    Hope that clears things up; apologies for any confusion.
     
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    175 000 is possibly nothing to her. A 3 year ban would be harsh. Maybe a 2 year ban would be suffcient.
     
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    At least she got fined more than Jeff Tarango back in '95 ($15,500)---he just yelled at the umpire, told the crowd to shut up, and walked off. He also got banned from the next 2 Slam tourneys---Queen Serena didn't, which is crap.
     
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    Too bad, I was hoping for immediate lifetime ban from the WTA and retroactive stripping of all her major titles. :)
     
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  30. prjacobs

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    In my opinion, Serena should've been disqualified and she should've forfeited all money earned at the Open. I've always liked her and love her playing, but her tirade was total bull#$%t. At a certain point, you have to draw the line.
     
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  31. Cantankersore

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    I thought a suspension of some sort was in order, but this is a pretty fair punishment. The fine could have been bigger though.
     
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    They should have took her USO Prize money.. banned her from the doubles final. In addtion, a one year ban from Grand Slams and at least a 2 mil fine. $82.5 K fine and suspened ban??? Why even bother?? The entire tennis community should be ashamed. Heck.. all she did was (On National TV/In Prime Time/Biggest Tennis Stage in the World/One of the Biggest Names in Tennis) make a "lifethreat" to a tennis offical 1/2 her size with a deadly weapon. Other than that.. no big deal.. :-(
     
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    If Serena was banned ,we would get rid of cuddles.
    Bummer...:(
     
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  34. sureshs

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    Hope the line judge is punished for the incorrect foot fault call.
     
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    oh yes she had the same treatment as all the line judges who are humans and make mistakes.
    However I'm afraid not exactly the punishment Serena had in mind.:(
     
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  36. sureshs

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    I think this line judge's mistake was not a regular human mistake.
     
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    Hmm..now that you say it..

    She must not be a human at all.
    She's the devil!!!!:shock: :evil:
     
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  38. SteveI

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    Her reaction to the Correct Call is the issue. The lines person/call is not the issue.
     
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  39. sureshs

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    I think Serena deserved her punishment.

    But I also think all was not kosher with the line person (and not due to the correctness of the call).
     
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    The lines person should retire. :)

    Sorry, I couldn't help that one.

    Hopefully Serena will steer clear of such ill-advised behavior on court. It'll be a mark on her career but she'll weather it. Can't really argue with her achievements no matter how much she is disliked by many.

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  41. sureshs

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    Serena is a boiling cauldron of anger, hostility, competitiveness, and sexuality. Part of it is her nature, part is fueled by reactions to her. There was probably not even a male tennis player with so much anger, except Johnny Mac.
     
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    Serena has admitted that she probably foot faulted there. Are you suggesting that officials actually enforcing the rules in the rule book is a joke?
     
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    Even Serena has admitted that she probably foot faulted there. Are you suggesting that the line judge shouldn't have enforced the foot fault rule when she saw it violated?
     
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    Some people on here are just masochists. Asking for a 3 year for this supposed 'death threat' (which no one associated with NYC law or the lineswoman took as a death threat) is too much.

    To me the punishment is fair. It's not like Serena has a track record of these kinds of incidents, ala a McEnroe, Connors, Nastase, etc. So for a first time offense, I think this is a just punishment.
     
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  45. PatrickB

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    A three year suspension would have been too much, yes. In addition to the suspended ban, I believe she should have had to forfeit all of her U.S. open winnings *and* all points from the U.S. open, because if she had been defaulted from that match (as she should have been), that would have been the punishment.
     
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  46. batz

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    Sadists, surely? ;)
     
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    I think this would have been a fair punishment if handed down. I do think suspending Serena from any further slams would've been too much, IMO.
     
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  48. Ripper014

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    This would only be a break even penalty... the 3 USO suspension and all her prize money and points would be a more reasonable result. The only way a player will respect the rules it so make the penalty fit the act... If she was given the actual penalty and not a suspended sentence... all they have done is provided a precedence for the next player, they now all know that no matter what they do they get at least one freebee.
     
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  49. federer_FREAK

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    Freebees are nice. It gives a less popular sport some publicity.
     
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    Also , fat and big bones which I don't think Johnny Mac had.
     
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