Serena - I guess I finally reached my breaking point

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by jones101, Dec 9, 2009.

  1. Morrissey

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    I'm just waiting for the day she retires and gains more weight to the point that can't even consider a comeback.
     
  2. Morrissey

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    Great post, especially the last 2 paragraphs.

    However, I don't pretend to think Megan Fox is not hot. And I would happily not date Serena.
     
  3. Carsomyr

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    Because as we both know, Sharapova is outrageously popular.
     
  4. malakas

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    she is as popular as Serena and Murray in tennis forums and in real life.:)
     
  5. Ripper014

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    Isn't rage... and mental instability a sign of steroid use..? This woman is always angry it seems... definitely a split personality of sorts.
     
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    No, let's not get things twisted. After all, gay, lesbian, liberal, what have you, all racist. Got to keep things simple.

    So, let's settle things this way.

    Why don't you tell us where you live? Obviously not Los Angeles.

    Based on your reply, the rest of us will be able to make all kinds of assumptions about how stupid or smart you are.

    The reasoning will go something like this. If you are from a southern city like Atlanta, well, you have to be stupid.

    Two can play this game. :razz:
     
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    ^^Let's all try to get along and respect one another.
     
  8. Morrissey

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    Well Sharapova isn't delusional and she's bangin'. Serena has everything except the bangin' part. UNless you're some of the blind people here who think otherwise.
     
  9. DRII

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    Please don't use the word serious or any of its derivatives. Your posts have disqualified you from such!
     
  10. MayDay

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    Maybe Serena acts the way she does because she is mental - she, being black, is just part of her own internal struggle of some weird identity/apparance issue. Other people that strikes out oh her behave or act in similar fashion probably got similar mental issues. I think it applies to anyone that are "different" from others. The problem is not other people, it's you! Look in the mirror, get over it and just play some tennis.
     
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    Obviously. When the ever-so-perfect white female players of nearly two generations have been utterly overshadowed by two black women, the true nature of certain "fans" of this anything-but-ideologically-international sport come out like....a Klan rally.
     
  12. Chadwixx

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    Why does matter that they are white and serena is black if you arent a racist?
     
  13. THUNDERVOLLEY

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    Hello, Captain Obtuse.


    Anyway, the race is the lone concern of the (wait for it...) racists; they are the crowd who resent the very essence of Serena (and Venus) which (in part) extends to the sisters' dominance over the white women they compete against (ex. the technically and historically empty caims of Henin somehow being the greater player than Serena) in a sport they (the racists) still percieve as being the domain and "property" of white players (with acceptance of only a few non-white players thrown in--as long as they do not dominate). If the Williams sisters were white, all historical evidence right up to this year strongly suggests the specific kind of hatred posted (straight forward or barely concealed) on endless threads on equally endless boards (TT among them, of course) would not exist.
     
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  15. THUNDERVOLLEY

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    I wonder why Serendipitous believes woefully ignorant, childish posts does a thing for him/her/it--or whatever "point" he/she/it was trying to make?

    Oh, well.
     
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    I don't like the idea that she donates and helps fund schools in Africa where she could fund schools in the US only. The countries in Africa are the ones that need to deal with there own problems and Serena shouldn't get involved in helping people in Africa, let them help themselves. For how Serena conducted herself at the US Open, I felt the fine was justified. She not only has to pay 82k in fines but she's also on probation and could face more fines and even suspensions at any of the grand slams if she continues with her tirades.
     
  17. doublebreak

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    Those Africans are a real drag, it's not like our wasteful style of living has anything to do with their struggle. Serena is so classless, how dare she help some African kids when so many american kids are suffering? No shame at all
     
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    I suppose this is sarcasm... FYI, there are plenty of American kids that need help with struggling schools.

    I also do not (sometimes) appreciate when stars, celebrities, or athletes feel they have to go to Africa for their next charity cases.

    Of course Africa, the continent, is in need due to historical injustices beginning with colonialism.

    However, present day corruption, internal conflict, and incompetent goverments has something to do with it also...
     
  19. doublebreak

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    I do not appreciate when some people feel some sort of entitlement about what some athlete decides to do. Who are you to say what is more important? Some people dedicate their lives to protect animals, or the environment, there are many many causes and needs, who are we to say that there are more pressing matters? To each his own, if you feel American kids are being neglected, then do something about it, other than complain about what other people do or don't do.

    You seem to underestimate those historical "injustices" as if you can shake them easily. I don't want to get into a debate about Africa, you don't care much about it or think it's their fault, whatever, my main point is that we should respect peoples priorities, whatever they may be. Serena, being african american, I see it as perfectly natural she wants to contribute to where her roots are, but even if she wanted to help Chinese schools, that's her decision and it's a good thing she's helping out.

    I think the only criticism you could make about some athlete/celebrity giving to charity is their self promotion (it shouldn't be the charity cause), like when she made the idiotic statement that she would be donating $100 dollars for Katrina survivors for every ace she would make. Then, yes you can say she is stupid, ignorant and egocentric, but well, dumb people's money can still do good, so I wouldn't make a big deal about it.
     
  20. DRII

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    Serena can do whatever she wants to with her money, as can you, as can I; this much is obvious and not profound in anyway...no one is stating otherwise. However, I can have an opinion about it, as can you, as can anyone else; without being 'entitled' as you claim.

    And you may see it as 'perfectly natural' she decides to give money to causes in Africa because she is black American (might be saying something about you) but I don't hardly at all. In case you didn't know: black (or the more P.C. term - african) - american is not the same as African. All humans have their 'roots' in Africa as far as modern science has revealed. Serena's more timely roots, if this was her deciding criteria for charitable giving - as you 'naturally' would see it, would be the inner city schools of Compton California or perhaps cities in Michigan.

    And if you honestly think there was no self promotion in Serena's charitable effort in Africa, along with the title sponsor HP, then i have a bridge to sell you.
     
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    Agree about the first sentence. I wasn't trying to be profound about it. Secondly, yes you can have an opinion as anyone, but I did sense some attitude of entitlement (more with quest01 and to a lesser extent with your post) as saying something like "We are americans, why go out and help some foreigners when you can help out in our home", I sensed that attitude had to do with a perceived lack of "patiotism", being upset because she does not seem to care about the "great" nation that has given her all that she has. That's how I interpreted it. If I misinterpreted than I apologize.

    I think it is an understandable and reasonable position, what would that say about me? I don't think anybody should be qualifying it as right or wrong. Yes I know, no need to state the obvious about the difference between African-american and African. Yes, we all come from Africa, evolution is indeed a wonderful thing. Like you mentioned, we can track our ancestry as far as you'd like, you can go to the first **** sapien, the first mammal, the first bacteria, the first replicator gene, you can go even farther to the star material from which the earth was formed. We all have our own evolutionary time line with many points in common. She wanted to go to that particular time frame of her roots in Africa and not the "timelier" one that links her to the California or Michigan. I really don't see anything wrong with that, and yes, I think is a natural and reasonable position, that is my opinion, which stands opposite of yours.

    Yes, I think she is a disgrace as a human being. Like I said in my previous point, I don't care much about it. If self centered people want to help out to be viewed as something they are not, I don't mind, of course their motivations are as transparent as crystal water, at least some money is put to good use.
     
  22. DRII

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    Great discussion doublebreak...

    Thanks
     
  23. doublebreak

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    Yes, I don't mind an interesting discussion from time to time, Federer is the real GOAT by the way...:twisted:
     
  24. DRII

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    LOL...

    Ok, i hear you.
     
  25. 2slik

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    Is it possible that some people don't like her because she is black?
     
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  27. doublebreak

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    Everything is possible. Now, since intolerance is pervasive in our societies, in my opinion I would say there is a 100% chance some people don't like Serena Williams because of the color of her skin.
     
  28. TMF

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    You totally ignore Serena’s tirade is the reason why people are critical of her, not b/c she’s black.

    There’s people don’t like Zidane b/c he head butt one of the Italian player right in the chest. Does that qualify to say "people don't like him b/c he’s white"?
     
  29. 2slik

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    LOL, he's not white, silly...
     
  30. West Coast Ace

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    Well said. Her act is so sad I now just ignore it. And the cause of most of her problems stem from Richard Williams - terrible father and human being. I hope you're right about some good coming from her donations - money going to Africa historically has a way of not getting to the people who need it - ends up in the hands of the ruling class.
     

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