Serve speed

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  1. LeeD

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    With a subject of "serve speed", we cannot worry about the needs of 3-3.5 level players.
    Every 4.0 adds spin to second serves, knowing the ball is going to slow down.
     
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  2. winstonlim8

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    Oh dear. I'm only 3.5 on a very good day so I guess I'll have to stick to my flat-topspins and try to make my slice serves better. :)

    But I do agree with LeeD about swinging harder on seconds though. I usually do that but when I'm tired and losing confidence, I occasionally forget and try to "hit with a little more margin for error" and end up plonking the ball into the bottom of the net. Stupid I know.
     
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  3. LeeD

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    I'm a middlin 3.5 with my right hand, weak hitting but very smart and consistent. With barely a swing on serves, I usually swing FASTER on second serves than I do in first flatter serves. Topspin is key.
    Lefty, my swing is probably close to 15% faster on second serves, and most bounce about chin high to a 6' player at the baseline, while twists can go a bit higher. First flats only bounce about 4' high at the baseline, and drop off after that..:oops:
    On skidding painted cement courts, and sub 65 air temps.
     
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  4. winstonlim8

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    Thanks again, Lee. You've given me an interesting insight.

    As I said in my reply in the racquet flexibility thread, I'm going to try to relearn my serves and put much more topspin on my serves for safety. I'll try to worry about getting more pace after I can hit a really good topspin serve with a good safety margin. I don't have that at the moment.

    I truly believe that a good serve is every bit as important as a good ROS because the former allows you to start off the point with a big advantage and the other gives you the opportunity to pressure your opponent as well as set up a pattern of play that's advantageous to yourself.

    But that could be because I prefer to attack and finish off points quickly. I just don't have the mentality to settle down easily for long grinding points. Somebody with a more patient mentality might be able to put in a weak serve and then depend on foot speed and good groundies to win the point.
     
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  5. shindemac

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    If you increase the speed of your flat serve, you increase your racket head speed. Then you can apply the increased racket speed, and turn it into spin for your second serve. I imagine it'd be hard to increase your racket head speed if you solely focused on your second serve. So faster serve means you have the potential to do more.
     
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  6. mikeler

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    I'm confused, does Lee swing slower or faster on his 2nd serve?
     
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  7. LeeD

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    LeeD swings faster on any second serve than he does for a flat first serve.
    For a first serve top/slice, swing speed is about the same.
    There is much more margin for error on any spin serve, so I can swing harder and still get it IN more often than a flat serve.
    Now IF I was 6'10" tall, there is little reason to swing slower on first flats.
    But, I'm not.
     
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