Shbh grip

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  1. njboy

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    Old question, hammer or pistol?
    I found this clip and this guy has pretty good shbh.

    Check out this video on YouTube:

    http://youtu.be/eRCWkQfPGvg
     
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  2. BevelDevil

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    Heelpad positioning is actually very important for the 1hbh.

    A good Eastern backhand grip is knuckle at bevel 1, heelpad on 7, 7.5 or 8.

    I recommend the heelpad on bevel 7 and that you move your hand all the way down to the buttcap, with the little finger bordering on the edge of the buttcap all the way around. This is a pretty strong hammer grip. It's easy to learn and can be very effective. This is what Gasquet uses, and probably a few other pros. 7.5 is also good. 8 is a little on the light side.


    The Eastern grip the coach demonstrated looked like his heel pad was on bevel 1, or maybe 0.5. It's a pistol grip, as you can see from his from the angle formed by his index finger as well as his little finger. I don't recommend this. It will be harder to learn how to hit high balls with such a grip. I don't know any pro that uses such a 1/1 pistol grip. Even Federer has his heelpad further back, on bevel 8.


    It's a shame that this coach suggested that heel pad positioning doesn't matter. The difference between a 1/1 grip and 1/7 is huge.
     
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  3. Lukhas

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    Extreme eastern for me. Sometimes in a hybrid with the Eastern BH grip: I open it more when the ball is lower; I don't even ask myself the question, I do it automatically.

    So it is bevel number 7 here for index knuckle, 8 for heel pad:
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    Or it kinda looks like this (Gasquet might still be changing his grip at the moment the pic was taken):
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    And this is what you get when both components are on bevel 8:
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    EDIT: On a side note... Yes, Kuerten was (is?) able to turn his head this way. And even more at some points. Prepare to scream:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39097000/jpg/_39097252_guga_300x245afp.jpg
     
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  4. njboy

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    My question is

    Spread finger or not?
     
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  5. arche3

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    I agree. Heel pad is the most important element of power and leverage on a 1hbh. Knuckle 1 heel pad 7.5, 8 is the federer type. Heel pad on 7 more extreme.
     
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  6. arche3

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    You can do both. Hammer with index finger spread up a bit. Fed does this. I prefer this. Because fed bh is goat and it allows more manipulation of the racket while giving a strong foundation behind the ball.
     
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  7. Lukhas

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    Who cares? Do what you feel more comfortable to do. As long as you have a good grip, stop worrying about useless stuff.
     
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  8. LeeD

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    Take Lukhas's advice.
    ANY grip, any heel, as long as the ball goes fast, goes directional, you get do it over and over, and it doesn't hurt your arm or body.....WORKS.
     
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  9. BevelDevil

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    I'm not sure if you made a typo, but typically the heel pad will be behind the index knuckle.

    Gasquet is index bevel 1, heel pad bevel 7.

    Kuerten's index is around 0.5, heel pad around 7.

    In both cases, their heel pad is lower than their knuckle.

    I wouldn't advocate a 7/8 grip since that seems really uncomfortable and prone to arming the ball.


    Put your heel pad in the right spot, and the correct finger spread will follow.

    You should think of finger spread as a rough indicator of where the heel pad is. The guy in the video had a very large spread, but that's because he had his heel pad on top of the handle. Pros have smaller spreads because they put their heel pads lower.

    I suggest a lower heel pad, which means I suggest little or no spread.

    To get a Gasquet like hammer grip, hold your racket like this:

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Lukhas

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    Maybe, maybe not. I kinda use similar grips on both wings and essentially play on clay. And since I kinda "automatically" open my grip the lower the ball it, I don't even really care. It would kinda be close to 0.5/7 if you really want to know.
     
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