Should I stock Wilson Natural Gut now? (before they become BT7?)

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  1. ultradr

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    I have one original VS Team NG(non-BT7) and a few Wilson NG.

    I was pondering if I should stock large number of Wilson NG before Babolat's BT7 trickle down to Wilson NG.

    You know Babolat does OEM for Wilson NG. I wonder if Babolat will soon switch to BT7 for Wilson also (for saving cost, I guess).

    I don't know when "ThermoGut" coating was introduced. Did that coating propagate to other OEM NG's Babolat manufactured for other brands fairly quickly?
     
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  2. ultradr

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    And when did Babolat VS become $47 ???
     
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  3. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    So they made it worse and jacked up the prices, way to burn your customer base Babolat.
     
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  4. JT_2eighty

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    Yikes. Glad I don't like Babolat Gut...

    Yes, I would stock up on Wilson Gut if you like the pre-BT7 formula, it's still the old rate and old formula, only a matter of time til either/both of those features change
     
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    I bought as many sets of Wilson/Prince natural gut I could afford because we all know the end is near. Who knows how much longer they will have before all of it becomes that terrible BT7 and given the recent bump in price, makes it even more ridiculously priced for what you get.
     
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  6. ultradr

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    But Babolat still seems to strike as the benchmark natural gut to majority of tennis players who are yet to aware of BT7 changes.

    $46.95 for BT7 ???
     
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  7. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    If players like Del Potro (k95) and Sampras (6.0 85) can stockpile old frames, why can't these millionaires stockpile a gut done right? :)
     
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    That's because of the decades reputation that VS Gut has. VS Gut was the gold standard of string for decades before it was ruined by BT7.
     
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    vsbabolat - Unfortunately, I love and appreciate your signature ;). Maybe Babolat would get the message loud and clear if everyone on TT who feels the same way added your signature to their posts! Kind of a passive aggressive TT protest.

    Regardless, Daniel did say he will be discussing BT7 while in France this week. I hope he: 1. Knows the severity (multiple negative threads) of the issue here on TT, and 2. Will advocate for the original VS to be offered again.
     
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  11. Francis27

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    How long does gut usually last?
     
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    That depends on MANY factors (tension, gauge, humidity, how you store your sticks, and especially your skills). But the great thing about gut is that it feels great from day one till the day it breaks. So, in that respect... it lasts a lot longer than any other type of string.
     
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    Yeah, my assessment so far is that BT7 plays like somewhere between Klip and Pacific Classic and that would worth about $28, IMHO.
     
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    ^^^ I say it's just above Pac Classic. Comparing it to Klip is an insult.
     
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    Wow, how coincidental is this thread's topic to the fact that Wilson Gut overnight is now up in price by $2? Could hit $47 by tomorrow??
     
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    Dunno guys. I would think that Wilson tells Babolat what they want in a natural gut, not Babolat telling Wilson how they will create the natural gut string. If they do read threads like this, then IMO Wilson would probably prefer the old formulation because they know TT people don't like BT7 vs non-BT7. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    I think it's more likely that they don't read these threads and rather go with player demand. I honestly do not believe that pros using VS for their entire careers have switched to BT7 as though it's the same stuff. When you can tell a 1lb difference, then you can easily tell when something is a different formulation.
     
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    I would agree with first point, that probably Wilson asks for a certain formulation from Babolat. To the second idea, I agree that IF they do read the forums, certain choices would be made... but most likely the threads on here aren't reaching too deep into either the corporate or professional atmospheres.

    If they did, BT7 would have been discontinued a while ago!! :D
    Now, TW is definitely reading the threads because 1 day into this thread and Wilson gut has already raised in price. Coincidence, or..??
     
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    I suspect Babolat will keep making a supply of the old gut for professionals.
     
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  20. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Why do you say that? I'm looking to try both Pacific Classic and Klip Legend.
     
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    Sorry I brought up this issue. :confused:
     
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    Unfortunately, Wilson just increased their MAP prices on several products including some strings.

    Brittany, TW
     
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    well, I played uncoated one. I thought it was OK NG. Only thing was the klip loses resiliency quicker than other guts, IMHO, and that's why they are cheaper.

    From my experiences, BT7, even if I lower the tension, loses resiliency quicker than the old non-bt7 ones. Old VS (or Tonic) felt like retaining resiliency until the end. That was premium quality of babolat NG I was gladly willing to pay....
     
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  24. mrmo1115

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    I've used gut in a poly/gut hybrid for about 8 years now. I moved onto the new gut but haven't really noticed any differences. Never really concerned me.
     
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  25. JT_2eighty

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    Perhaps then just a coincidence in timing of this thread and that. :)

    Still glad I prefer the feel of Tough Gut and stocked up on Pacific Tough when it was 31!
     
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    how long can a pack of gut last if I were to keep it unopened and on top of that in a air tight box?
     
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    A few years, easily. I have some packs that are 3+ years old, and they still string up easily and play great.
     
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    Eh, now another thing to stock up on. :)
     
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    This is kinda severe inflation. Quality goes down big time but prices go up.

    I started to have a feeling that we might not have natural gut made in france
    any more, pretty soon.
     
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    I don't know about you people, but the thought of stringing my racquet
    with the intestines of a dead cow is pretty disgusting.
     
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  31. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I don't know about you people, but the thought decorating my dinner plates with the flesh of a dead animal is pretty disgusting.
     
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    I don't know about you people, but the thought of another TROLL on this site is pretty disgusting.
     
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    I am a vegetarian, so you would have to deliver that statement
    to some of your meat-eating friends.
     
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  34. Someone Else

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    Troll = over-used and abused term used to describe anyone
    who says or does something someone else does not like.
    Discussions on the internet always end with someone calling
    someone else a ****, troll, pedophile or anti-semite.
    *YAWN*
    Jump back into the cave you crawled out of...troll.
     
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    Nope. Sorry. Usually I don't feed the troll but I can sense that you are hungry. Read the definition from Wikipedia and try to understand how I might think this applies to your first (off topic and extraneous) comment in this thread:

    Troll: In Internet slang, a troll (pron.: /ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3]
     
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    Your location is also an obvious attempt at trolling, unless you're Kim Jong Un, your chance of getting internet is very low.
     
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    Vegetarian by choice?
     
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    Your signature suggests that you are "someone else" who I could identify with in this board. :twisted:
     
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    more likely Wilson read this thread and decided to increase the price right away

    it happened with appaprel oince...i was braggin what a great deal i got on socks and next thing i know,.. Nike increased the price
     
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