Sick of ignorant commentators about Raonic

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  1. Devilito

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    Sick of people referring to Raonic like he’s some type of freak of nature monster of a man. He’s 6’5” for Christ sake. Del Potro is 6’6”, so is Querrey and not to mention real monsters like Isner. I don’t hear the commentators bring up what a monster Del Potro is every time he plays and he is bigger. The fact Raonic has a better serve than any of them is SKILL not height ffs. It’s just a pet peeve that’s getting old. WOW! He can actually RUN! Amazing. I didn’t think monsters like him could move that well. FFS go DIAF thanks
     
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    You need to calm the fish down, devilito !! Commies need to make things sound exciting. Much like the titles of most threads here.
     
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  3. hansolo

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    haha Devilito, i agree!
     
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    No he doesn't damn it! He's got an excellent point. In addition, they need to shut up about Nadal being fast...LOTS of players are fast. And STOP talkinga bout Fed's forehand, lots of people have big forehands, some bigger than Fed's.

    I mean yes....his height is well above average, and yes, it's a big part of his game, but come ON, that does not mean they should talk about it!!!

    IF they need note it, the commentary should be:

    "he's fairly big"
    "oh? I hadn't noticed"
    "well, he's above average height anyways"
    "I suppose...I've seen bigger"
     
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    Raonic should play an exhibition with the elephant man.
     
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    ^^ haha, datacipher :D
     
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  7. cc0509

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    No, that should be Isner. He is definitely the most freakish looking. Milos is a tall guy but not freakish looking at all IMO.
     
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    It's because of Raonic's long legs. They make his appearance worthy of comment.
     
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    he does look like Frodo Baggins on stilts, if yer ask me.
     
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    His legs are long but they are also solid and muscular. Like tree trunks. Not like stilts at all imo.
     
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    milos needs to get a proper clothing sponsor and stop wearing kid clothes, that's the reason he look funny... he could take andy roddick's XXL t-shirt to start with :)
     
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    Talking Heads: Learn Name Pronunciation

    One of the Brit voices referred to Babyface as "Milos" but pronouncing it as though it rhymed with "Vilas". It is "Me-loash", is it not?

    The undersized apparel might be the new wave: the young French wildcard was also sporting a pair of shorts with less inseam. Let's hope that look goes away.

    I'll put up with the above as long as he keeps playing the pretty game he has. It's a nice bounce back from the early exit in Miami. That shows great resilience for a young 'un.
     
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    Yeah Isner and all those other guys like Cilic, etc have no muscle and are basically skin and bone. Milos' legs are massive.
     
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    Yeah then he can play up in Harlem maybe get Sean John to sponsor him. I think his clothes are fine.
     
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    It is more due to the small shorts he wears which give him that look. Any tall player, Cilic / Isner / Del Potro will appear the same.
     
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    I don’t remember the last time Del Potro played where they kept going on about how massive he is, how he’s a monster like Godzilla ready to destroy entire cities. They usually don’t even mention his height. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t serve 140mph. Not to mention he’s bigger than Milos. Put Milos in a line up of other tall ATP players and he’d be just average. It’s like they don’t have any other talking points about him. Heck before his match with Gulbis one of the commentators said, “well I’ve never really seen him play much, I guess he’s just a huge guy with lots of power”. Ok there buddy. One of them even said during the match he might do ok on faster courts if he practiced a little ‘serve and volley’ even though on fast courts he mixes in serve and volley all the time. Where do they dig up these fools? If your JOB is a tennis commentator shouldn’t that require you to at least WATCH tennis?
     
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    They are always mentioning Delpotro's huge wing span.

    E.g: Deplo hits huge inside out forehand.

    Commentator: Oh crikey mate!that delpotro is able to generate so much pace because of his huge wing span, he is able to genrate so much momentum that none of his puny 6'1 opponents can even dream of gerating. Delpotro is just huge, his massively long legs let him take one huge stride to get from one side of the court to the other, and then he uses his gargantuan wing span to flap his arms and totally just slap the ball! And OMG delpotro is so tall but he can somehow move well around the court! that is just unfair and unreal! Tennis is a big man's game now!
     
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    This just cracked me right up!
     
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    you don't hear that much with Del Potro maybe because he has a higher respect level due to his slam win. To me, harping on someone's physical attributes and not about his game is insulting. Especially when it's exaggerated. If Isner or Karlovic were hitting 160mph serves consistently i could see where that would get ridiculous. But Milos serves harder more consistently than them and is way smaller. It takes me back to when people were commenting on Petros' serve being such a big advantage. I'm sorry but Petros was 6' tall. If you're 6' tall and can't serve like Petros then TOUGH LUCK. It's not like he had some unfair advantage that other's didn't have. IMO it's just weak commentators and analysts and know nothing about tennis.
     
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    Devil, how did you like it when the commies used to say "Vintage Federer" or "inch perfect" after every 90 seconds. Aren;t we thankful those days are over ;)
     
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    Actually, now they say "Vintage Federer" every time he plays decently and hits a few winners. Or makes 4 backhands in a row, 1 of them up the line.

    :twisted:
     
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    yeah yeah yeah.

    karlovic is what 6 ft 7. and isner 6 ft 9 with only a serve
     
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    Seems like whenever Federer, Nadal or Djokovic hit a winner it’s like the greatest shot in the history of tennis. Watching Djokovic play now is unbearable due to the nut hugging. It’s like winners never existed before. I swear, when watching Petros or Andre play they were hitting winners left and right and nobody ever commented on the fact. Yet if Djokovic or Nadal hit a winner it’s like OMFG DID YOU SEE THAT? DID YOU SEE THAT? MY GOD HOW MUCH TENNIS HAS PROGRESSED! THEY HIT A WINNER OMG!
     
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  24. bolo

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    lol 10 char. :)
     
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    Yeah, the Raonic thing is annoying. But the ABSOLUTE WORST is when Mardy Fish plays. Jesus Christ, you'd have thought he was a 300 pound, out of shape loser. Every single time he wins a long point, "Oh yeah, all that weight he lost, blah blah blah". THAT WAS OVER A YEAR AGO.
     
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    Every time I see Fish play and listen to the commentators I get the same impression. That he was a 350lb whale that got his stomach stapled so he could drop weight. Reminds me of the opposite of when Andre played in the early 90s. “Andre has been working out, did you know he can bench press 300lbs?” Or, “did you know Andre likes to eat cheeseburgers? That must be why he lost the French Open final”
     
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    Yeah, especially when Mary Carillo is on the case. "Mardy has such dedication; did you know that for 1 year all Mardy ate was celery and 2 oz of tuna- 5 times per day. He completely gave up all sugars and alcohol and he forced his wife Stacy to do the same; and he ran up the Agassi mountain for like 7 hours per day. Unbelievable discipline in this young man! His game is soooooo different now."

    It's like, the guy is professional athlete, he only lost like 25 lbs, isn't great physical condition expected?
     
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    See bolded parts of your question then watch the WTA and youll get your answer.
     
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    Agreed, Same thing with spectacular half volleys, volleys and overheads and ridiculus on the run winners. Now that is like a shot made by Sweet Baby Jesus himself.

    I watched the 95 US Open final, Pete and Andre, and Johnny Mac and Mary Carillo would just continue talking as if nothing spectacular had happened whenever a ridiculous winner was hit.
     
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    I have to disagree. All the commentators had their heads stuck firmly up Pete and Andres arse. "OMG, Pete is such an athlete.Look at that slam dunk!" I have seen Monfils get more air than Sampras ever did but no one ever cares to hype it up as much as they did with Pete.

    Also, whenever Sampras hit a running forehand it was like the world was coming to an end. I have seen Federer/Nadal hit a buttload of those but they never get a unique status of "running forehand master" like Sampras did.
     
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    Yeah, but at the end of the day, it comes down to doing spectacular things and winning ALOT.

    Sure, Monfils can get big airtime, or do some pretty athletic things, but....Monfils hasn't mastered the 2nd part. As much as the 3 monsters in Pete, Rafa, and Roger.

    Nadal and Federer have, and they do have their share of commentators on their respective stick.("federer best slice ever"), I've even seen a poll which tennis media gave options of which is a better shot, Djokovic Backhand drive or the Federer Slice, you need to have your head up Fed's ass pretty far to even allow that comparison to be made.
     
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  32. bolo

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    It's because the federer and nadal running forehands aren't nearly as good as the sampras running forehands. Their running forehands get a lot more air and so give the other guy a lot more time to make decisions, the sampras fh was just a lot more dangerous. Their fhs look good when the other guy is at the net, but the sampras fh looked good even when the other guy was at the baseline. The only comparable guy these days to the sampras running fh is delpo imo and he got plenty of attention for that shot during his final with federer. It was a spectacular shot and was recognized as such.

    Monfils might get air once in a long while, but sampras just did it more often, with better coordination and grace and in less controlled circumstances.
     
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    Lmao funniest thread in a while, its true but they are paid to make things seem more interesting and more dramatic so ya... they have to make the non tennis fans start to enjoy and find tennis more interesting afterall and they do it by sounding ridicoulous
     
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    Sampras used to jump and crush his overhead which was awesome to watch and extremely stylish, but he could just as easily have won the point by not jumping.

    Monfils does not just get more air once in a long while, he can ALWAYS jump higher than Sampras, Federer, or Nadal, but clearly that does not make him a better player. I am only saying that commentators exaggerated the abilities of great players in every era.

    Also, I disagree with your assessment on running forehands. In his prime, Federer's running forehand was ridiculously lethal and easily rivaled Pete's IMO. Federer does not always give his running forehand's a lot of air, he often gets to the ball early and crushes/redirects it CC or DTL.

    People make it seem like Sampras's hit a 100mph winner of his forehand wing on the run almost 100% of the time, which is just rubbish. He played excellent defense of that wing as well as offense; he also gave his forehands 'air' when he needed to.
     
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    All commentators just take the p**s out of Roddick :D
    Lol. Not that I don't like him, I think Roddick is good. He should have been a comedian though :D

    I remember watching Roddick and they were like ' YEAH AWFUL BACKHAND BY RODDICK THERE ' or ' Yeah he used to have a huge serve and forehand now it's just an okay serve ' like, after 1 in 1,000,000 errors.
     
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    Sozzy. Double post.
     
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    Hmm... Even current day commentators still give that edge to Pete, they will clearly say, Federer is better on the off wing(inside out), or stationary. But cannot touch Pete on the run.

    Bolo, I agree, the only comparable forehand to day is Delpo's, which speaks for itself.
     
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    Other way round I think. Karlo is the tallest tennis player in the world.
     
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    That is because Federer is losing now. They all talked about how it was greatest shot in the history of the sport in 05/06/07 and how he could do everything with it.

    Also, Pete's I/O and I/I forehand shots dont get enough credit. Those were amazing :shock:.
     
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    Used to be Fedal invasions; now it's Fedpras?

    The OP mentioned this guy named Raonic. Yeah, the booths go crazy about the slightest of accomplishments of the elites and certainly have shown their ignorance of Raonic's game. I think the R16 matchup exposes his lack of experience on the dirt but 130+ well-placed bombs will make this a good match. Just stop calling him "Milas". "Me-loash" is not hard to say. If so, Babyface will do better.
     
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    The 6'10" guy (I think it's Karlovic) is the one they should call a freak of nature monster. Personally, I think Del Potro with his long arms and reddish hair looks like a young orangutan.
     
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    I've played with people who have practiced with Raonic, and they don't have good things to say about his personality. Apparently he's really cocky and a ******. I've never met him even though were the same age and ranked in Ontario.
     
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    +1. Pete-loyalists are just a bunch of angry whiners. Can't stomach the fact that Federer/Nadal/Djokovic can play more spectacular tennis than their idol. If Federer receives more praise than Sampras, it must always be due to bias, and some ulterior motive to make tennis popular, blah..blah..blah, but never an iota of chance that may be he does play more attractive tennis than Pete?
     
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    Raonic is super tall and strong for a 12 year old! :twisted:
     
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    we all have our impressions about the running forehands, but I am surprised with the monfils and sampras slam dunk comparisons. I don't even know what it means to "always" jump higher? Sure if it was a pure jumping contest maybe, but I hope you are not implying that monfils always jumps higher on his slam dunks than sampras during matchplay. In any case in match play the sampras slam dunk is just a lot more interesting, that's why it gets more "hype". Nothing to do with underappreciating, over appreciating etc.

    Sampras has slam dunks where during match play he is leaping and sometimes moving laterally and diagonally to the court and picking them off in mid air. If monfils tried some of these dunks, it's even odds he would either injure a spectator or injure himself. :) In terms of the frequency of dunks and athleticism (coordination, grace, leaping, overall awesomeness :)) they are just not in the same ballpark. My favorite sampras smash is the first one in this vid:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JDlKYn0p9c&feature=related
     
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    C'mon, lets be fair to Pete. In many aspects he was more spectacular than Federer/Nadal. He is one of the greatest to ever play this game. The whole point I was trying to make is that commentators have been hyping up players forever. Sure, commentators might go crazy when Federer hits the simplest forehand winner, but they did that in the past generations as well. I just felt that Devilito and BrookylnNY were just not giving a very balanced view about the issue. That is all.
     
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    Who thinks that Milosh looks a little like Tsonga?
     
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    This is also my favorite smash. That is just otherworldly. Aside from the fact that he was about 2.5 feet high, He jumped half the service box laterally. So Ferocious.

    Sid_Vicious: I respect your view, I tend to try not to buy into commentators excessive compliments. Typically they tend to contradict themselves when the next 'thing/champion' comes along.
     
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    The point was that in the 90s everytime Pete showed of some speed by hitting a forehand on the run or hit a slam dunk people always went crazy about his crazy athleticism .Well, Monfils can run way faster than Sampras and can jump even higher, but nobody hypes him because he is not as good of a player as Sampras.

    That is why every time Federer hits a huge forehand winner people go crazy about it, but when Ferrer does the same nobody cares.
     
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    Yeah, i've noticed that sort of mentality in the way he speaks. hard to believe he lets a coach manipulate him with that sort of character he has.
     
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