Silent Ban Discussion

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by MasturB, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. Bartelby

    Bartelby G.O.A.T.

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    Cycling is a team sport and his team mates saw the wrong doing. I doubt that tennis players actually have testimony to offer about others.



     
  2. batz

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    No you didn't.

    For the third time - an accrued benefit of some description is the essence of being a snitch. It's what differentiates the snitch from the honest witness who supplies the information for no other reason than it's the right thing to do. It applies at every level - from the doping cheat who wants to reduce their sentence to the little kid who wants to see their sibling get punished because they argued over something that morning - there being 'something in it' for the information provider is the litmus test for being a snitch. This is not particularly contentious.

    We are literally having an argument over semantics now - what is it that you think you're proving here? That Murray is a doper, and that's why he used the word snitch? At the risk of boring you and anyone else - Murray doesn't think that dope cheats should be rewarded for doing the right thing. That doing so is to reward snitching. I agree with him, as would many other people.

    You are of course free to disagree with him and argue that dope cheats should be rewarded for providing information - but please, let's not pretend that Murray's statement equates to 'Murray doesn't believe dope cheats should pass material information to the authorities' - because that's not what he said, not even close, and yet it appears to be the thrust of your ongoing questions.
     
  3. SLD76

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    why does murray care if some barely journeyman tennis player gets a reduced sentence for providing info to authorties?

    second of all your whole defense of andy's position is bogus. Do we not routinely see criminals be afforded a lesser sentence for information on other criminals? So what, its good for law enforcement but bad for tennis?
     
  4. batz

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    I know this is hard for you to get your head round mate, but Murray doesn't think cheats should be rewarded for doing the right thing. It's not about caring about journeymen pros. I can't really put it any other way. Like I said, you're free to think otherwise.

    Who's this 'we' you're talking about? It's not a routine phenomenon in the UK, neither is plea bargaining - but then we don't have 90 odd percent of defendants pleading guilty or the highest incarceration rate in the world.
     
  5. SLD76

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    We can agree to disagree.

    You feel as if murray is solely concerned about cheats being given clemency for "snitching". I feel it could be otherwise.

    Lets hope for a great AO.
     
  6. batz

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    Of course we can mate.


    Yep - let's hope it's a classic.
     

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