Silicone Spray - Need Expert Advices!

Discussion in 'Strings' started by PhilStar!, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. PhilStar!

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    Hey All.

    There's been a lot of talk about spraying silicone on to strings. I've never done this before but I would like to try.

    First all, I've used Babalot RPM Blast many times and it already has silicone coating on it. Would spraying it again on Silicone-coated strings will make any difference?

    What and where can you buy Silicone spray for tennis strings.

    Can the spray be used on all strings (including Multis, Syn. Gut, etc.)

    Also, how much do you spray on the string during a hitting session. Do you spray it on then wait about 15 - 30 minutes to let it soak in? And do you need to spray it on several times per hour (during a break) or just once beforehand, and that would be enough.

    Is it non-toxic? Though I usually wash my hands after a tennis session, I still get blisters and rub my eyes occasionally during hitting.

    thanks!
     
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  2. tlm

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    I think astro glide is the best for super lubrication, it could add at least 300 rpm to your strings.
     
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  3. mikeler

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    I've tried Silicon spray. The slight help it may give you is not worth breathing it in. Let this dream die...
     
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  4. v-verb

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  5. Hi I'm Ray

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    Isn't astro glide *fun* lube?
     
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  6. PhilStar!

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    Astroglide looks very slippery. It should be non-toxic since it's meant to be applied to the skin. That's a plus.
     
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  7. Old Chemist

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    Armor All spray (original)

    From their website:
    "Attention: Not for use on floors, vehicle controls (pedals, grips, steering wheels), bench or cycle seats, cycle tires, brake drums and other surfaces where slipperiness may be hazardous. Do not use on or near clear plastic surfaces, glass (may cause smearing), fabric, woven materials or paint.
    Usage Directions:
    1. Shake well.
    2. Apply liberally to a clean cloth and spread evenly, or spray directly onto surface.
    3. Wipe off excess.
    4. Apply as needed to maintain surface appearance and protection."
     
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  8. joe sch

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    The improved product is "Sensitive String Gel Lubricant"

    Thicker formula made with botanical ingredients. Water-based, water-soluble, and latex safe. Ingredients: Purified water, xylitol, hydroxyethylcellulose, Aloe Vera, pectin, Chamomile Flower Extract, phenoxyethanol.

    Might as well use the best product available
     
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  9. 000KFACTOR90000

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    I think it's useless on poly.

    I experimented with full 15l gut on tt'er Bud's advice and feel it was very successful. String's stay straight and snap back like a poly or gut poly job - brilliant !! http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=6655225&postcount=3
     
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  10. PhilStar!

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    Do you spray them on the night before or an hour or so before you begin to hit?

    I read several post on this topic but some people say it dries very quickly and the silicone only stays on for about 20 - 30 minutes. Another person spray it on the night before.
     
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  11. 000KFACTOR90000

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    either/or.

    Just move the strings around to get the silicone everywhere.

    Once the strings develop notching after a few plays they should be right to stay straight till they break.
     
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  12. Bartelby

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    I think it's best to spray it around an hour before play. It's still at its most viscous but doesn't smell as much.

    I think it lasts a while, but the very wet initial look disappears quickly so do it as close to play as your nose will tolerate.

    The only point in doing it any earlier has to do with the smell.
     
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  13. PhilStar!

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    If I'm not mistaken, it should be completely dry before hitting?
     
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  14. ultradr

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    How long this silicon spray will last functioning?

    If I have to do every time I play, that would be too much.

    Also if it kinda prevent notching (kinda like string savers),
    it would be perfect for gut.
     
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  15. danotje

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    I've tried this a couple of times and also gave lotion a shot based on another thread. My experience (and this seems really odd) is that the string bed seems to stiffen up and feels really ... brittle? Can't really put it into words, but lubing the strings usually ends in me cutting them out. Anyone else have something similiar?
     
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  16. mikeler

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    You really need to spray it every day you play for maximum effectiveness.
     
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  17. webbeing

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    There is a "food safe" silicon spray made by CRC which has no odor. Need to spray after each set (have several racquets on hand) or at least everyday.

    I am thinking of trying PTFE/Teflon dry lub, not sure of the health hazard though.
     
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  18. PhilStar!

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    I've checked some of the silicon spray bottles for health hazards and I do see they mention that it can be harmful if the vapor is inhaled. Skin irritation is possible too.

    So I take it that you spray it on, use a towel cloth to move the mains and crosses around, then wash your hands with soap right afterward.

    There were other posts about WD 40 but one poster said it has Acetone, or a solvent, and that's not exactly what you want to come into contact with your frame or grommets.

    Can someone tell me if we should let it dry before you start hitting or should it still be moist to be effective.
     
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  19. db10s

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    I'm going to try a lotion towards the middle of the stringbed.
     
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  20. db10s

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    I also have some Rem Oil gun cleaner (Teflon based) that I am going to try after the Vaseline moisturizing lotion that I applied in large amounts an slid the strings around and then rubbed of with paper towel.
     
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  21. fortun8son

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    Finger Ease at the music store
     
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  22. corners

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    The only reason I can think of why lubing would make the stringbed feel stiff is that the ball is slipping off the strings rather than biting. Just guessing, but I wonder if maybe you string pretty tight?
     
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  23. PhilStar!

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    Hey I've never heard of Finger Ease spray before. This is interesting as it was designed to spray on guitar strings (which is also nylon and natural gut, if I'm not mistaken).

    If anyone tries it out and can compare it to the other sprays, please post your thoughts.

    Also, let us know if its effective on Poly and Co-Poly strings as well.

    I might get a can of this soon.

    Hopefully, there's no health hazards with this product ...
     
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  24. danotje

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    At the time, I was at 54 which isn't too tight. No worries now as I'm at 30 with great feel and solid spin. Really have no need for lube anymore. This might be the first string bed that saws all the way through the mains, yet still feels great.
     
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  25. Readers

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    Just how bad is Silicone or PTFE?

    Both in pure form should be eatable, but I am worried about inhaling them. :(

    Should I just try wax? But how do you make wax form a thin layer on string? I am thinking if there is a safe way to do some DIY wax spray. :-?
     
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  26. 2Hare

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    I've tried a lot of things. Finger Ease works, but only for a very short while. You pretty much have to spread the thing after a few games, that's how short it last. Vasaline's not so great as it could mix up with dirts on the ball and actually increase stringbed friction after a while, not to mention it makes balls have nasty black lines. Same as bike lubes.

    I would suggest that you try out different body or hand lotion you have at home, see which one works best. It's the safest, effective string lube I've tried, and it smells good too! I really don't think lubing strings is worth the health hazard that might come with teflon or silicone lubes. It's kinda like throwing wrenches into your cells that could jam up the gears during cell divisions.
     
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  27. Backhanded Compliment

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    I use B'laster silicon spray... I spray it onto a tennis ball and it foams up as it rubs the strings, allowing it to get into the string crosses. I let it dry for a few hours so it doesnt make marks. Works great and many hardware places have it.
     
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  28. v-verb

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    I'll try hand lotions but with gut have to find one without water as a component
     
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  29. 2Hare

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    Hmmm their food grade lubricant look promising! Thanks for the tip!
     
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  30. 2Hare

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    I've been using water based lotion on my guts. It actually increased the durability of the gut by decreasing friction! Not an issue at all for me.
     
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