Simon Reed, Eurosport Commentator with a backhanded comment towards Raonic as he retired in his 1st round match.

Zardoz7/12

Hall of Fame
"Pretty nasty comment from your commentator Simon Reed saying it's hard to feel sympathy for Raonic when he has 20 million in the bank and lives in Monte Carlo. Just because he's done well financially due to hard work and success in tennis doesn't mean we shouldn't feel sorry for him for having to withdraw due to injury. Unnecessary bitter comment."

I'm really not fan of bitter, old, armchair tennis fans who nothing played tennis at any level yet feel they have the right to make crass comments. Raonic plays tennis because he's a professional tennis player, he's made money doing something he loves, sounds like an ideal job.

 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
It's a stupid comment anyway. He's earned $20m in his career, that doesn't mean he's got all of that in the bank still. He's got to live and bills to pay.
 

Terenigma

G.O.A.T.
First I have seen of this match/highlights and man. Raonic getting injured right after his prime was SUCH a shame, even in this match you can see the raw hitting power on both FH and BH and it's beautiful to see.
 

Impressario

Semi-Pro
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Googled him out of curiosity, this explains a lot
 
I've been listening to him for 30 years. I'm actually quite surprised that he's still commentating - he is 76, now, and I'd have thought he'd have retired, plus I think that 30 years ago I thought he was older than 46. Then again, teenagers always think 46-year-olds are older than adults think they are. (I turn 46 this year).
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Simon Reed is one of the worst commentators so not surprising to see that came from him. Sad to see Raonic sidelined by injury again.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
I've been listening to Simon Reed commentate on Eurosport since the 1990s. It was funny 15 years ago when he was bigging up Andy Murray.
 

reaper

Legend
"Pretty nasty comment from your commentator Simon Reed saying it's hard to feel sympathy for Raonic when he has 20 million in the bank and lives in Monte Carlo. Just because he's done well financially due to hard work and success in tennis doesn't mean we shouldn't feel sorry for him for having to withdraw due to injury. Unnecessary bitter comment."

I'm really not fan of bitter, old, armchair tennis fans who nothing played tennis at any level yet feel they have the right to make crass comments. Raonic plays tennis because he's a professional tennis player, he's made money doing something he loves, sounds like an ideal job.

Isn't that just perspective? For a tennis player to be plagued by injury early in their career is very unfortunate. To be plagued by injury when you're a 30 year old multimillionaire really isn't. Raonic is in a very fortunate position.
 

messiahrobins

Hall of Fame
Reed was never neurral as a commentator. Used to be a hard listen in the early 90s. I remember at ths FO in 1993 when at the time courier was absolutely dominating and sampras stuck one one slam having not won one for ofer two years he repeatedly referred to Sampras as the best player in the world and was always fawning over sampras matches and critical in couriers.
More recently when nadal beat djokovic at rg2022 he and john mcenroe ended up reduced to silence, their disappointment was so obvious.
Oh for the days of Dan Maskill or Barry Davies albeit tennis wasnt his main sport.
At lesst we have Andrew Castle though........
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah, we all should sympathize with rich people career setbacks, their problems are more important than the problems of ordinary people.
Exactly when did I say that?

If you earn £100,000 a year, you don't pay taxes, and you don't spend any of it, in 10 years, you would have £1m in the bank. But we all know that is not how it is. The prizemoney quoted for tennis players on the ATP website is not in the bank. Some of them pay taxes; they have coaches and other members of their team to pay; there are travelling and living expenses etc. The idea that Raonic still has his $20m prize money intact in the bank is ludicrous.
 
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reaper

Legend
Exactly when did I say that?

If you earn £100,000 a year, you don't pay taxes, and you don't spend any of it, in 10 years, you would have £1m in the bank. But we all know that is not how it is. The prizemoney quoted for tennis players on the ATP website is not in the bank. Some of them pay taxes; they have coaches and other members of their team to pay; there are travelling and living expenses etc. The idea that Raonic still has his $20m prize money intact in the bank is ludicrous.
He may well have more. With endorsements and some half way intelligent investing in stocks or the Canadian property market.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
He may well have more. With endorsements and some half way intelligent investing in stocks or the Canadian property market.
Of course he will have earned more but I was referring to Simon Reed's assumption that he had $20m based on his prizemoney.
 

reaper

Legend
Of course he will have earned more but I was referring to Simon Reed's assumption that he had $20m based on his prizemoney.
If he's got even $2 million cash and owns his own home he'll never have to work in a job he doesn't want. He's probably got several times that, so to Simon Reed's broader point, not much reason to feel sorry for him.
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
Exactly when did I say that?

If you earn £100,000 a year, you don't pay taxes, and you don't spend any of it, in 10 years, you would have £1m in the bank. But we all know that is not how it is. The prizemoney quoted for tennis players on the ATP website is not in the bank. Some of them pay taxes; they have coaches and other members of their team to pay; there are travelling and living expenses etc. The idea that Raonic still has his $20m prize money intact in the bank is ludicrous.
The idea that Raonic is not rich (by average guy standards) is ludicrous. ~99% of people today have bigger problems than he does.
 

Cabeza del Demonio

Professional
"Pretty nasty comment from your commentator Simon Reed saying it's hard to feel sympathy for Raonic when he has 20 million in the bank and lives in Monte Carlo. Just because he's done well financially due to hard work and success in tennis doesn't mean we shouldn't feel sorry for him for having to withdraw due to injury. Unnecessary bitter comment."

I'm really not fan of bitter, old, armchair tennis fans who nothing played tennis at any level yet feel they have the right to make crass comments. Raonic plays tennis because he's a professional tennis player, he's made money doing something he loves, sounds like an ideal job.

Odd to hear that from Simon Reed, who's generally one of the more classy, sophisticated-sounding guys in the booth. Probably just an episode of verbal diarrhea.
You spend half the Open Era commentating for hours on end, I guess eventually you're gonna say something asinine.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Odd to hear that from Simon Reed, who's generally one of the more classy, sophisticated-sounding guys in the booth. Probably just an episode of verbal diarrhea.
You spend half the Open Era commentating for hours on end, I guess eventually you're gonna say something asinine.
The dude once got caught calling a figure skater the "b" word on a hot mic and got fired. I mainly remember some other stuff he said calling matches that I didn't like. Never got classy from him.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
More recently when nadal beat djokovic at rg2022 he and john mcenroe ended up reduced to silence, their disappointment was so obvious.
McEnroe's commentary in that match was a joke, especially the anti-Nadal rants about "time wasting" coming from a guy who regularly held up matches for minutes in his own playing days and sometimes walked off the court! The commentary on that match was so bad that I have to watch the US broadcast instead of the Eurosport one to properly enjoy the match when I rewatch it.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
McEnroe's commentary in that match was a joke, especially the anti-Nadal rants about "time wasting" coming from a guy who regularly held up matches for minutes in his own playing days and sometimes walked off the court! The commentary on that match was so bad that I have to watch the US broadcast instead of the Eurosport one to properly enjoy the match when I rewatch it.
McEncroe and Nastase were the reason that time was limited between points because of their deliberate time wasting, arguing with the umpire and, in Nastase's case, interacting with spectators. At the time it was 30 seconds, plucked out of the air. Now they've thrown the numbers in the air, randomly picked a number and multiplied it by the cat's age.
 

Bambooman

Hall of Fame
Milos recently became a partner in Tennis clubs of Canada which took over a bunch of tennis domes and charged people astronomical prices for court time and lessons for kids.

Right after they doubled the former prices Milos sent out a nice email about how the former club owner where he started used to let him play for free whenever he wanted.

I wonder if he realized that was an odd move.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
McEncroe and Nastase were the reason that time was limited between points because of their deliberate time wasting, arguing with the umpire and, in Nastase's case, interacting with spectators. At the time it was 30 seconds, plucked out of the air. Now they've thrown the numbers in the air, randomly picked a number and multiplied it by the cat's age.
I don't remember any official time limit between points in the 80's. Citation for this? I'm convinced this is made up unless there's proof. And the context is totally skewed. Nadal and Djokovic both routinely took 30-35 seconds between points on every single serve. Mac had meltdowns occasionally, which added 4 minutes to a match instead of adding an hour. Ridiculous analogy and invented "rule."

95% of people here weren't even born in the 1980's, much less watched tennis then. No player ever got a time violation then because there was no shot clock and there was no time rule between points because it wasn't necessary. Nobody toweled off or bounced the ball 60 times between serves then, they just got on with it.
 
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clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't remember any official time limit between points in the 80's. Citation for this? I'm convinced this is made up unless there's proof. And the context is totally skewed. Nadal and Djokovic both routinely took 30-35 seconds between points on every single serve. Mac had meltdowns occasionally, which added 4 minutes to a match instead of adding an hour. Ridiculous analogy and invented "rule."

95% of people here weren't even born in the 1980's, much less watched tennis then. No player ever got a time violation then because there was no shot clock and there was no time rule between points because it wasn't necessary. Nobody toweled off or bounced the ball 60 times between serves then, they just got on with it.
Simply because you can't remember it doesn't mean it didn't exist. The rules were in place for decades without the shot clock. Lendl got riled for taking the full 30 seconds.

"The ATP's 25-second rule between points — it differs by five seconds from that in place at Grand Slams — hadn't been strictly enforced in recent years, but players were sent emails in advance of the 2013 season warning them of the crackdown."

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sport...een-tennis-points-under-new-scrutiny/1825959/

7 Oct 2020 — Time limits for serve have been in the rule book for a while. They just weren't enforced,


Players were penalised for exceeding the time limit long before the shot clock was introduced. The enforcement of the rules that had existed for a long time, started in 2013 and the shot clocks were not available until 2018.

ATP and WTA Roll Out Shot Clock at Pro Tennis Tournaments​


8.17.2018
 
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messiahrobins

Hall of Fame
McEnroe's commentary in that match was a joke, especially the anti-Nadal rants about "time wasting" coming from a guy who regularly held up matches for minutes in his own playing days and sometimes walked off the court! The commentary on that match was so bad that I have to watch the US broadcast instead of the Eurosport one to properly enjoy the match when I rewatch it.
HAve you a link to that mTch with us commentary?
 

Cabeza del Demonio

Professional
The dude once got caught calling a figure skater the "b" word on a hot mic and got fired. I mainly remember some other stuff he said calling matches that I didn't like. Never got classy from him.
Pretty sure that was his evil twin Chris Bradnam, wasn't it? Might be wrong though.
 
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