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  1. tdhawks

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    Curious what your racquet customizations are like.

    Are you using it in stock form, or adding lead? Where and how much and what are you final specs?
     
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  2. AllDownTheLine

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    I find them perfect in stock form!
    Pro Line2 @ 56lbs
     
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  3. Mementi

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    Stock form. Wilson Ripsin 22,5 kg (49,5 lbs) on mains and crosses.
     
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  4. SpinToWin

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    that's 49.5 lbs….
     
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  5. cknobman

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    Absolutely perfect in stock form.

    I use 1 over grip on them just to keep the original grip from getting messed up and slippery.
     
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  6. seekay

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    I ended up with 4g of lead hidden under the bumperguard (~10 and ~2), silicone in the handle, and leather grips.

    Ready to play (strings and overgrip): 355g/11pt HL
     
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  7. shaysrebelII

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    Leather grip and an overgrip. Other than that, nothing.
     
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  8. Mementi

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    Thx. It was a typing error.
     
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  9. veecee

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    10g of lead under the handle. May add a leather grip.
     
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  10. dblsplayer

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    Stock, with just a Wilson Pro overgrip and dampner. Strung with Volkl Cyclone 17 on mains @ 53 and Gosen OG 17 on crosses @ 56
     
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  11. derski

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    +1 for stock. Gamma Razr Tac over grip with Wilson Rip Spin mains and Prince Premier Control crosses. Oh yeah!!
     
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  12. Matchball

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    1 gram of lead @ 3,9 positions, a light leather grip and Gamma RZR overgrip.
    Rispspin high 50s.
     
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  13. westside

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    This. Perfect for me.
     
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  14. BHud

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    Stock form. Klip K-Boom 17 mains @45 lbs/Klip Excellerator 16 crosses @ 50 lbs. Beautiful! Smooth strings = better wear. I originally tried Solinco Tour Bite soft in the mains, but it cut through the multi crosses too quickly.
     
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  15. anubis

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    I have two of them that are getting matched at TW. I'll be stringing both at 54 lbs full bed Solinco Tour Bite 16. One I'll stick 5 grams of lead at noon, other at stock. which ever wins me matches quicker wins :)
     
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  16. tdhawks

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    Awesome info.

    I thought stock felt too light for me. I had my previous APD leaded up to 12.5oz and 8 pts HL.

    I started with 5g at 3&9 and 3.5g under the cap. Moved the 5g to 2&10, then dropped the 5g to 3g at 2&10. This helped.

    From time to time, my forehands are sailing long, not hitting the baseline like I'm accustomed to. I'm using Prince Tour XC which is a tad thicker than my normal 17g polys, strung at 52lbs full bed.

    I may try keeping the 3.5g under the cap and taking off the lead at 10&2 and see how that works. I'm afraid I won't get the extra pop on my serve however without the lead up top, but I should be able to whip the stick around faster on my ground strokes.

    I could always keep the lead and string a little higher as well, this should help.
     
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  17. tdhawks

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    Little off topic of the 95s, but still talking Wilson racquets -

    How much "weight" is located at 3&9 with their perimeter weighting system? If indeed X amount is placed there when the racquet is being made, there shouldn't really need to be any extra lead at or close to that location, correct?

    Is it just marketing, or is it weighted more heavily at 3&9?
     
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  18. radtennisfan

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    I thought the spin version of this racket was tough to use. I use the regular 6.1 95 and it is perfect in stock form.
     
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  19. SpinToWin

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    Well… A certain poster had cut open a K88 and found that there was only foam in the PWS like everywhere else in the frame… Perhaps the larger cross section does add some weight and torsional stability, who knows.
     
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  20. Sardines

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    I replaced the grip with a leather grip, added 7g of weight to the butt. On the head, 9g of weight at 2/10 o'clock.
     
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  21. Mementi

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    What about strings?

    I tried many strings for my Six One 95s. Kirschbaum Pro Line 2, Luxilon Savage, Alu Power, RPM Blast, Wilson Ripspin, Tecnifibre Black Code, Wilson Sensation and Prince Beast. I keep coming back to Luxilon Alu Power and the new Wilson Ripspin. All the rest are nice strings but are less durable. Only Pro Line 2 (used this for 2 years in my Pure Drive) has good durability but feels like a noob string compared to Alu Power. For some strange reason the Alu Power feels softer than the Wilson Ripspin in my 6.1 95s.
     
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  22. tdhawks

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    I've used -

    Hawk 17g - Went pretty dead after 10 hours.
    Cyclone 17g - Broke in 7 hours.
    Zo Verve 17g - Great in APD, not too hot in 95s.
    Tour XC 16L - Best string so far. Have gone up to 15 hours before breaking and kept characteristics the whole time.
     
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  23. seekay

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    The 18x16 string pattern is substantially softer than the 16x18 I'd been using in Six.Ones, so I'm liking firmer strings in the 95 S. My experience matches yours: ALU is great, and RipSpin isn't far behind. I also like Tour Bite in this frame.
     
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  24. SpinToWin

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    Don't forget that the Six.One 95S has a softer flex than the regular Six.One 95.
     
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  25. Hollywood401k

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    The Six.One 95S is one of the very few racquets I think is perfect in stock form. Love that racquet.
     
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  26. seekay

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    I hadn't seen that. T-W lists the Six.One 95 16x18 and the 95 S identically: 22mm beams with 67 stiffness. Was it measured differently elsewhere?
     
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  27. macguyvur

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    Have any of you Six.One 95S users knocked with the Ai 98? Care to give your thoughts on the comparison? Thanks!
     
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  28. endbegin

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    I just demoed the racquet for a week, and love it in stock form.

    The racquet was strung with Lux Big Banger original (don't know the tension), and I was concerned about having a monofilament in there with the relatively high stiffness rating, but it feels very comfortable.
     
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  29. endbegin

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    I hit with the Ai98 and maybe it was the strings in there, but it just didn't feel as solid. It felt lower-powered and boardy compared to the 95S. Also, I am biased towards how Wilsons (pro staffs, 6.1, blade lines) feel, so YMMV.
     
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  30. anubis

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    The AI 98 is a boom stick. STrung one up for a friend and hit with it a bit. Way more power than the 95s. But also less control and less spin.
     
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  31. Booger

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    - Leather grip w/ Wilson pro overgrip
    - 10 grams of lead (total) added at 9:00 and 3:00
    - Champion's choice hybrid @ 58/56
     
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  32. drak

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    with a large butt cap area build up it weighs 340 grams strung. Using the Monogut ZX 1.28 with a 1.40 Marathon cross, nice spin and control and it's lasting me well so far. I probably am an average string breaker, really like this frame so far
     
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  33. tdhawks

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    I'm going to drop the 3g off of 10&2 tonight and see how my groundstrokes are compared to leaded up. Should be able to produce a little more racquet speed and could help with the balls sailing long from time to time.
     
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  34. macguyvur

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    Thanks -- looks like the 95S is the one for me then. I need lower power, more control, more feel.
     
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  35. anubis

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    Don't get me wrong - it's not low powered. Compare it to something like a Prestige or Yonex Tour G and it definitely has some pop. I'd say it's got similar power to the APD, just more control -- MUCH more control.

    But the AI98 is a hand cannon.
     
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  36. seekay

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    How is the durability of the natural gut? I played gut/poly in my 16x18 Six.Ones, but I was afraid it would be a waste of good gut in the 18x16.
     
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  37. tdhawks

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    Dropping the lead helped, I could really whip and drive the racquet through the ball. I've found my ideal my set-up.

    Final Specs below.
     
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  38. macguyvur

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    Super, good to know. Glad it's not too low powered. And I don't need a cannon launcher -- I can launch cannon balls with players sticks just fine, thanks!

    Will be interesting to see how Six.One 95 S stacks up next to PS 97 315g.
     
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    Interesting stuff.
     
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  40. Mementi

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    Tomorrow i will try the new Kirschbaum Max Power 1.30 in my Six One 95s.
     
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  41. EasternRocks

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    Would coming from a Head Speed Pro result in a huge adjustment? How does this compare in power level to lets say a 16/19 Blade or Radical Pro? Similarly, how much less control does this have than a 18/20 Blade or my aforementioned Speed?
     
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  42. Hooked

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    A little late to this thread, but stock here. First stick that hits all of the spec's that fit my game; size, weight, balance, flex, pattern. Love the spin. Using Tourna Big Hitter Blue Rough 17 at 55 (50-52 after initial tension drop). After 5 years of trying stick after stick after stick, I have finally found "the one" that does everything really well....
     
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  43. anubis

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    My current setup with the 95s is 3 grams of lead at noon, with Luxilon 4G 15 @ 50 lbs. Big shout out to Mark Boone for the recommendation of 15 gauge strings on this bad boy! 15g strings really bring this frame to life!
     
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  44. veecee

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    Nice one!

    I've been using BHBZ at 57 (also to compensate for the initial tension loss). It can still be a bit powerful with this string, so I am going to try BHBR next for a little bit more control and spin. Will probably start BHBR at 55.
     
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  45. tdhawks

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    I strung up Wilson Ripspin 16g the other week, really played well with it. I could feel the difference from my 17g strings and this 16g. Control was spotty at first, but settled down after 4 hours. Tension has dropped from 52lbs to 41lbs in 3 weeks, seems high but it feels pretty good at this lower tension. Worth a shot for anyone wanting to try this string.
     
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  46. Sappruski

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    I am really wanting to like this frame but my racquet feels HH as opposed to the 5-9 points HL that are advertised. Has anyone had this problem. I dont want to increase my SW any as this is about the max weight for me.. any suggestions
     
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  47. tdhawks

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    Maybe lessen the grip size? There were times I noticed I was having trouble relaxing my wrist with the frame. I had a replacement grip and overgrip on mine and ditched the replacement grip and went with 2 overgrips and it helped a lot. It feels a lot more HL now.
     
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  48. KaiserW

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    I know you don't want to increase weight but a leather grip or some lead on the handle will make it more headlight. Try it and if too heavy you can always remove.

    I demoed last night and really like this racquet. It is lighter than I am used too. If I buy it I will be adding a leather grip. Also have the 16x18 version as a demo but I am liking how I can whip the 95s around easy. One more day with the 95s than I have to try the 16x18 version.
     
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  49. AllTennis01

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    gut/poly hybrid in this frame feels good

    I have it strung with Tonic at 57lb and one of Kirschbaum soft poly's in crosses at 53lb. It feels good, but I want a bit more control, balls going slightly long at times, so I think will go a bit tighter on nat gut in the mains next time, maybe 2-3lb extra. I am not a big string breaker, but then again I change string quite often, usually not playing more than 10 hours - likely because I usually try full bed polys. Anyhow, at this point I've had this hybrid for around 11 hours of play and it still looks good/clean and feels comfortable, so if this setup stays playable for at least another 5-10 hours I think I'll be sticking with it - or should I say it will be one of my go to setups, lol.
     
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  50. anubis

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    How long are they going? IMO, balls going long is a good thing. All you need to do is add a little more topspin to that same exact shot and it should land in. That's a much more effective shot than balls falling short. You have to work harder to get the ball deeper than to get it shorter.

    If your shots are falling short, you really have to change the angle, racquet speed, and height over the net to get it deeper. Far more things to go wrong in that sense. If your shots are going long, you have to fix far less to get it shorter.

    I'd keep the tension the same in the mains, but I'd increase the tension of the crosses. I wouldn't go less than 2 lbs below the mains in that configuration.

    Also, I'd change the crosses completely: try Solinco Outlast 16 instead. Far more slippery, you get more string snap back and greater spin. Kirschbaum poly strings tend to be rather sticky.
     
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