Am I bent out of shape? I thought I was just addressing the ridicilous assertion that Murray had only played well in 2012 at the USO. Is this thread about the relative slam records and overall standing in the game of the top 4 or is this thread about who will win what in 2013? I thought it was about the latter - but you seem to be arguing about the former. Murray's overall place in the pantheon of tennis greats has the square root of feck all to do with his chances of winning a slam next year. By that logic, Murray has less chance of winning a slam next year than Agassi and Sampras. PS I think Roger is the greatest player ever, but the fact is that over the last 2 years he has had an inferior slam record to Murray - that for me is a more pertinent fact about the relative liklyhood of either of them winning a slam in 2013 than Roger's 17 slams.