Sleep without a blanket and lose a pound a week?

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  1. Punisha

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  2. Rickson

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    It sounds stupid to me. If you go to sleep freezing, you won't get a good rest which is necessary for proper growth. If you want your muscles to grow which is the real way to burn extra calories, get a comfortable sleep and forget this quack's no blanket idea. I do not endorse this quack's (Dr. Johnson) no blanket theory.
     
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    The "pound a week" claim may be excessive, but yes, you will lose weight by making your body generate more heat to maintain steady-state. And you'll probably get used to it such that your sleep may not suffer at all. Those little passive calorie burners do work -- patients with Parkinsons (energy expended on muscle tremor) and emphysema (more use of accessory intercostal muscles to breathe) routinely report trouble maintaining weight, though a don't recommend either condition as a diet technique.
     
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    Its sad that everyone wants to do whatever they can to lose weight as long as it doesn't involve exercise.

    Anyways here's something I found in the first link that I thought was incorrect:

    "By the way, ANY diet or other weight loss system that claims to enable you to "lose many pounds in a week" can obviously not be true! Even if you ate NO food in a particular day, your body (an adult man, a woman a little less) only uses up around 2,200 Calories of your BMR (basal metabolism rate) plus a few hundred more Calories due to exercise and other physical activity. Therefore, even if you ate no food at all, you could only lose a little over half a pound of actual bodyfat per day! (Your weight can reduce more than that, but it is nearly entirely due to water content of your body, lost as sweat, urine, or moisture in the breath.) Anyone or any advertising that tells you otherwise is simply lying to you!"

    As a watcher of The Biggest Loser, some of the contestants were losing 5-15 lbs per week (week after week). Also, the only people that burn 2,200 Calories per day are those who are NOT overweight. And if you fit in that category you obviously don't need a weight-loss program. Someone who weighs 300 lbs probably burns 5000 calories per day just to survive, but that is just an arbitrary guess.
     
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    A 300 lb. obese person does not burn 5000 KCal a day to survive, but a 300 lb. muscular person who is active can burn 5000 KCal daily. Yes, obese people have more fuel (bodyfat) than lean people, but they definitely don't use it quicker than lean people. Just because someone has a bigger engine (more bodyfat), doesn't mean he'll use up more fuel (bodyfat).
     
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  7. stormholloway

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    Just sleep your way to rock hard abs!
     
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    Borg used to sleep naked with no sheets in very low temperatures before matches at wimbledon.
     
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    And you would know how?
     
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    Cause he was with him har har har!
     
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    how do you think I know. I read it in a book. I think it was McEnroes. It said he had the air con on so it was very cold and that when he woke up his HR would be very low.
     
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    A good sleep is needed for muscle repair.
     
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    Truth. Thats why you see those huge losses on Biggest Loser.
     
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    I read Mac's book and it wasn't in there. Sounds absolutely ridiculous to me.
     
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    how about a light blanket, will it take off at least 1/2 a lb a week?
     
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    dammit, i knew my dog pushing up against me was preventing me from dropping that 5lbs i have been trying. dam dog feels like a heat log
     
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    Hmm never noticed your response to me.

    There is no way a person at normal weight burns the same calories as a 300 lb. obese person when both are sedentary. The obese person's body has to work much harder just to pump blood through their body. Same goes for other bodily functions and keeping that large body warm.
     
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    That's a yes and no answer. What if you had a guy who was 250 lbs. and lean? Let's say 250 has only 25 lbs. of bf so that would make him 225 lbs. lean (muscle, bone, organs, water, etc.). What if 300 pounder had 150 lbs. of bf? The 300 pounder is 50 lbs. heavier than the 250 pounder, but the 250 guy can burn calories at a much faster rate due to more muscle mass.
     
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    Would think "advise" lead to illness? I'd be upset if I woke up with a cold because of this weight loss "program".
     
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    the BMR(daily calories burned for survival alone) depends mainly on Lean Body Mass,so the 250 lbs person in your example with Lean Body Mass of 225 lbs would burn more calories just to perform all the necessary organ funtions,than the 300 lbs person but only with 150 lbs lean body mass.A pound of fat every day burns 2 calories in contrast with muscle which burns 7-13 calories/pound.
     
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    Yes, muscle burns calories at a much quicker rate than bodyfat. A lb. of muscle can burn up to 50 calories a day while a lb. of bodyfat burns approximately 8 calories a day on average. Since muscle burns calories at a rate of 5-6 times faster than fat, an obese person doesn't burn calories at a fast rate at all. This is one reason why obese people stay obese and why lean people are more likely to stay lean. Does the 300 lb. person with 150 lbs. of bf burn more calories than someone who weighs 140 lbs.? Of course he does, but that doesn't mean the 300 pounder burns a lot of calories in proportion to his weight.
     
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    50 cals/day? Where did you get that?Very much overestimated.

    The 300 lbs 50% BF would burn less cals per day than a 250 lbs 10% person.Than a 140 lbs person they would burn about the same amount (approx. 150 cals difference) Here's an excellent site to calculate BMR taking into account BF% : http://www.phord.com/cc/
     
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    I got that from my Apex manual, but I can link to other sites. I didn't think you meant 7 Kcal daily when you were talking about 1 lb. of muscle and calories it burns . I can guarantee you that 1 lb. of muscle burns more than 7 calories a day.
     
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    I have found many respectable sites in the internet stating 7-13.Definitely less than 50 - though I won't be sad to be corrected. It seems scientific opinions/studies conflict on this subject. BUT I think we will both agree,that fat tissue contributes minimum at metabolism.
     
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    I saw some of those 6 calorie websites, but those estimates are still being studied. Maybe we're both wrong, but I believe 6 calories isn't correct and perhaps you're right in that up to 50 calories is too high. It's probably somewhere in between.
     
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    Yes,probably that depends on many other factors anyway like muscle composition,age,gender,race,genetic background etc..
     
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    Glad we could meet in the middle. You know what people don't realize? Muscle is the only place in the body where fat is used for energy. So it's true what they say, the more muscle you have, the more fat you can burn. The key word being can. Sad, but true. The 200 lb. man who is full of muscle and has very little fat will burn more fat during aerobic exercise than the 200 lb. fat man who has relatively little muscle mass. The fat man has more fuel to burn, but an economy car engine that burns too efficiently meaning he saves gasoline (bodyfat) while the muscular man has a lot less fuel, but a racecar engine that burns fuel at an extremely inefficient rate. Unfair, I know, but that's life. One guy can't get rid of his gasoline and the other guy burns it up very quickly.
     
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    Perhaps a mechanism like that can save our oil crisis!
     
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    Unfortunately, cars work the opposite way. Make a car fat (SUV), and you make it work like the muscular man, a gas guzzler. Make the car skinny (compact), and you make it work like a fat man, uses less gas. Oh well, inanimate objects just don't work like the human body, but it was a good thought.
     
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    I've done some calculations and I see that both formulas are incorrect. You have a 150 lb. man with 100 lbs of muscle and you're only burning 700 calories daily? Let's try the low end of the previously thought to be true 35-50 calorie formula. 100 lbs. of muscle burns 3500 calories? Sounds a bit too high there. 20-25 calories per lb. of muscle sounds just right to me as a 150 lb. man with 100 lbs. of muscle can easily burn 2000-2500 calories daily without any extra exercise. There's your answer. A lb. of muscle burns 20-25 calories per day.


    Edit: Remember, simply deducting bodyfat from your total weight does not give you the amount of muscle mass you have so if you have 10% bodyfat at 200 lbs., that does not mean you have 180 lbs. of muscle mass, it simply means you have 180 lbs. of lean weight so that doesn't mean you're burning 3600-4500 calories a day while at rest. You need to deduct another 40 lbs. from there before you start calculating so 140 x 20-25 would be more accurate. The formula deducts more weight for heavier people and less weight for lighter people.
     
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    You don't get a 'cold' from bieng cold. You get it from a virus, which comes from other people, which happens when you spend all your time indoors, when it's cold.
     
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    The abundancy of viruses in the environment is pretty much a given,but cold makes the ciliary(?) epithelium not function so well which easily leads to infections and diseases.
     
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    Why 3500 seems too much for you?:/ Doesn't seem too much for me with 100 lbs of muscle-that's 45 kilos of muscle!
     
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    Actually, getting 'colds' does seem to relate to getting cold. Last year I read in the press about a study at some university where they exposed students to viruses while one group had their body temperature lowered slightly at the time of exposure. The group with the lowered body temperature came down with a higher rate of cold symptoms.

    Not proof of anything, but worth considering.
     
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    I stand corrected. Thanks for the info guys :)
     
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    Actually, you were right the first time. Colds come from a virus and not cold weather. Yes, you can catch a cold in the summertime, but more people catch colds in the winter from being indoors more often which brings about a quicker rate of infection.
     
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    Actually he was "half" right because cold is one of the most important factors and though it's not the real cause of the disease -taking into consideration that infections happen everyday the cold temperature can make the difference between a mere infection and an actual disease.
     
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