So much for Nadal's "decline"

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  1. SikSerb

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    Nadal isn't the same player as he was in 2008 i'll admit, but to go as far in saying that hes declining and out of his prime is funny to say the least. He's 25 people, he's in the best years of his life.
     
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  2. jackson vile

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    Who ever claimed he was out of his prime???:confused:
     
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  3. Mike Sams

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    Nadal will be 26 in 2 months which is the age where decline is more noticeable. First thing to go is concentration and that's something Nadal has lost a bit of during big points. Notice he's more often getting his serve broken when in a position to close out the match? Happened a few times now in hardcourt matches including against Tsonga, Nishikori, and Nalbandian.
    Athletically and physically, Nadal is in his twilight years perhaps enhanced a tiny bit with his injuries suffered throughout the years, particularly his knees.
     
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  4. djokovicgonzalez2010

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    a) It's incredibly based on strength. I know it isn't entirely, I'm the shortest person on my HS team and have 2nd biggest serve, but strength is still a major major factor.

    b) I doubt he just chooses to serve poorly 2/3 of the time
     
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  5. jackson vile

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    Again for all the slow people, anorexic Venus Williams can serve 129mph. Strength is the least of your worries if you want a big serve.
     
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  6. CDestroyer

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    Because Federer is a better clay court player than Djokovic.
     
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    Not a contradiction at all. If I say "some" people thought Nadal would win it does not mean Federer was not the favorite. I will change it to firm favorite to favorite then because I sure as heck did not think Nadal was going to beat Federer at W in 2008. I know Nadal was trashed in 2008 at RG by Nadal but that was on clay. Federer's pedigree on grass and HC was stellar.


    I agree.
     
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    Okay, let's change firm favorite to favorite then. :)
     
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    After Nadal's 6-1, 6-3, 6-0 win over Federer in the 2008 French Open final, I was thinking that Nadal's chances of winning Wimbledon were stronger than ever before. Nadal was winning more and more easily against Federer in their French Open finals while Nadal was getting closer and closer to beating Federer in their Wimbledon finals. I just sensed Nadal had a big chance to win Wimbledon, and although Federer went into the 2008 Wimbledon final as the favourite, there were more people backing Nadal than there had been in the previous 2 Wimbledon finals.
     
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  10. ASantana

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    Just because he had a good tournament doesn't mean he is still playing great. Also, it was on clay. His hard court play has completely deteriorated very much. And not taking away from his win but other than Djokovic, who did he beat? Lower ranked players, for the most part, that were lucky to be there. Im sorry but one tournament does not mean that he hasn't lost any form.
     
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    WHAT? Roger was DEFINITELY not the FIRM favourite to win. Yes, generally people tended to pick him for every slam except RG till 2010 because till then he was by far, the most reliable, safe bet. But how many people thought Nadal would win in 2008? Many. Particularly after the clay season. Greats like Borg had been saying since the 2007 final that Nadal would probably win. He only changed his prediction at the last moment. Infact very few when Nadal won it.
    And I'm not talking of just commentators. Even fans thought Nadal was the fav alongside Roger. I remember Star Sports running a clip where they asked various fans who they thought would win and even the Roger fans were reluctantly saying Nadal had more than a fair chance of winning.
     
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  12. cc0509

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    As I have stated in my previous posts, I changed it from firm favorite to favorite. Federer was still the favorite for W 2008, a touranment he owned for 5 years prior to that. Even though I knew Nadal was a threat at the time and that some people picked Nadal to win, I still figured Roger would squeak by and get that win. I was wrong. :(
     
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  13. NamRanger

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    I remember Nadal was in decline in 2009 for most of the year according to namelessone, and for the better half of the 2nd half of 2008. Same with 2010, etc.


    Nadal is in perpetual decline guys, he's just that good if you know what I mean.
     
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  14. monfed

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    The Nadal is undefeated when he wins!

    BAMOS RALPH! BAMOS!
     
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  15. rafan

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    Nadal never favoured the hard courts because of his knees and he gets out of that season as fast as he can ..win or lose
     
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    Borg has been spot on with some of his predictions. He also said after 2008 Wimbledon that Federer will bounce back next year.
     
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  17. Numenor

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    I am shocked by Nadal's decline. Truly, by winning the Rome Masters in such decisive fashion and handing out so many bagels and breadsticks so far in the French Open, he has shown that he is in the doldrums. The one fact that would cement this sharp decline would be him winning the French Open...
     
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  18. Nathaniel_Near

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    Relax folks, ...
    Nadal is still prime, clearly. He might even be about to peak like he did in 2008 and 2010. The level of his play suggests that there's a realistic possibility of this happening.
     
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  19. Nadalgaenger

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    Great post. But if Djoker's game varies so much, why can't we say the same of Nadal's?
     
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  20. sbengte

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    Djoker has been losing to or gets stretched by a host of players when his level fluctuates. Nadal pretty much lost all finals to one guy last year.
     
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    The truth is that if Rafa was born just a few years earlier when the treatment of his tendinitis was not yet available his career could have been over by now.
     
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    He got a tip from the WADA guys abt some other/s.
     
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