So who will be the ATP Player of the Year?

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Player of the year will be....

  1. Federer

    50 vote(s)
    52.6%
  2. Nadal

    2 vote(s)
    2.1%
  3. Djokovic

    3 vote(s)
    3.2%
  4. Murray

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    42.1%
  1. Zarfot Z

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    THE YEAR SO FAR

    Roger Federer: 1 Grand Slam, three 1000, two 500 = 6 titles (1 GS)
    Rafael Nadal: 1 Grand Slam, two 1000, one 500 = 4 titles (1 GS)
    Novak Djokovic: 1 Grand Slam, two 1000 = 3 titles (1 GS)
    Andy Murray: 1 Grand Slam, one Olympic gold, one 250 tournament = 3 titles (1 GS)

    The top four have split the majors between them, with Federer slightly ahead of his competition. Djokovic has been the most consistent at Grand Slams, with Nadal being the least consistent. IMO it all comes down to the WTF. The winner of that will likely go on to be the player of the year.
     
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  2. tenniswriter

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    Too early to say. Depends on the WTF really, but I think it will probably be Federer.
     
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  3. AnotherTennisProdigy

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    Probably Federer, but my personal choice would be Murray because of how much he has accomplished for his country.
     
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  4. tenniswriter

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    I don't know about accomplishing stuff for his country. I mean, yes he got them the Olympic gold. If a player was a part of a Davis Cup winning team, then yes, I'd say he's accomplished something for his country. Just my opinion though.
     
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  5. NadalAgassi

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    Right now I would say Djokovic, but really it is impossible to say now as it will probably all come down to the WTF and who ends the year #1. Since I think Federer is still most likely to win the WTF, and even possibly end the year #1 it will probably end up being him, even though it would not be him if the year ended now. Even Murray winning the WTF will likely win it (if he wins the WTF) despite that he wont end the year #1. U.S Open, Olympic, and WTF Champion would be too much for the others to overcome in a year of only 1 slam winners.
     
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  6. Antonio Puente

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    In the big tournaments, it's probably been Murray. Never thought I would say that.

    Murray: 1 slam, 1 gold medal, 1 slam final
    Djoker: 1 slam, 2 slam finals
    Nadal: 1 slam, 1 slam final
    Fed: 1 slam
     
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  7. AnotherTennisProdigy

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    I'm just saying that because Andy is basically the only player the British have got. What he wins is what the British win. You can't say that for somebody like, say, Roddick who has many American contemporaries.
     
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  8. tenniswriter

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    Fair point
     
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  9. smoledman

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    Probably Fed if he finishes YE #1 with 7+ titles.
     
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  10. octogon

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    Fed has the most titles, but Murray is the only one with two truly prestigious titles (Olympics + Grand Slam). I'd sort of lean towards Muzza, because even though the ranking points don't reflect it, the Olympics is a much bigger deal than any event outside the slams. It's almost like winning two slams for Murray.
     
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  11. Feña14

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    Tough one.

    Murray won a major, got the final of Wimbledon, was a few points away from the Australian final, won the Olympics etc..

    I think that just edges it for me.
     
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  12. AnotherTennisProdigy

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    WTF is the last big one, it will probably decide it.
     
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    Andy unless federer wins the wtf and has a solid end to the season
     
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  14. powerangle

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    It will probably be Roger if he stays with his indoor form.
     
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  15. mistik

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    Roger only win Wimbledon and he didnt even have 2nd major final.He missed the chance of being the best player this year.
     
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  16. Feather

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    Roger Federer has three masters and you conveniently forget that. He has six titles this year
     
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  17. mistik

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    Master means nothing.If it means something Rafa would already be the greatest player ever.
     
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  18. merlinpinpin

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    That's what I would say, too.

    1) Federer wins WTF and ends up #1 for a record-tying 6th time, then he's the player of the year, no question.

    2) Murray wins WTF, then *he* is the player of the year, even if he "only" ends up 3rd in the rankings.

    3) Anybody else wins WTF, this will be a close call (although I guess Federer would still edge it should he end up #1, or Djokovic should he end up top dog).
     
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  19. merlinpinpin

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    Any reason why? :confused: Because he's tied with Federer although some of his are non-mandatory? Is that the "non-mandatory" part that would get him the "greatest player ever" moniker? As in, the smaller tournaments you win, you greater player you are? :shock:
     
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  20. mistik

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    Rafa is go on to win more masters tournament then Fed in the end.Thats a fact.
     
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    Andy Murray with OG and USO unless Fed wins the WTF. Even then, it could still be a toss-up imo.
     
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    It will only become a fact when Nadal's results make it real. Until then, it's just some fantasy, I'm afraid (and Federer could take the lead, too). ;)
     
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  23. MTF07

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    Federer - 17 GS + 21 MS + 6 WTF = 44 big titles

    Nadal - 11 GS + 21 MS + 0 WTF = 32 big titles
     
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  24. mistik

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    I know the numbers you dont need to remind me.Rafa won 33 big titles.He won the most difficult one Olympics.Roger will never win a Olympic Gold.Thats a fact.( please dont come with stupid doubles gold stuff as well)No one cares about WTF.(not even a best 5 final anymore)
     
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  25. Zarfot Z

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    Of course not. Why would they, when Nadal hasn't won it?

    Only tournaments that Nadal have won are of actual value, no?
     
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    Nadal - 11 GS + 21 MS + 1 olympics + 0 WTF = 33 big titles
     
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    People forget that Federer's best part of the season is coming up, he is 1000 points behind djokovic and that could be made up with 2 tournament wins, if he was to win the WTF and shanghai, paris or even basel, I don't think djokovic can win enough to challenge him. I would say that Tsonga, Murray and Federer are better indoor players than Djokovic and he'd do well to win one title!
     
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    Federer - 17 GS + 21 MS + 1 olympics + 6 WTF = 45 big titles :wink:

    On topic:
    Since each grand slam has gone to a different person I would say its going to come down to WTF and YE#1.
    If one of the top guys manages to get both of those then he is a lock for player of the year regardless of what the others have done.
     
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  30. sunof tennis

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    No he wouldn't. He and Fed have the same number of Masters titles. Further, the vast majority of Rafa's were on one surface.
     
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    How there tied?? WTF is what's going to decide it mate! If fed wins another masters he's player of the year by a longshot
     
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  32. RF20Lennon

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    BTW fed guaranteed 300 weeks at #1:D
     
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    But he lacks 6 WTFs as the sum total of all Masters for the year.:)
     
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  34. norbac

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    Toss up between Djokovic and Federer so far. Djoko has performed a bit better at the Slams, while Fed has done the same in the 1000/500 category. Murray might make a case if he finishes the year strong.
     
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    If Federer sweeps the indoor season again, he's POY.
     
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    And when he loses he is Scottish :-D
     
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  37. Matt H.

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    honestly, i think it'd be cool if all 4 shared it.

    it's been a very interesting and competitive year. The "Big 4" is for real and finally arrived.

    All 4 have huge wins and losses against each other. All acheived some big historical success.

    Novak had an attempt at holding all 4 and made the semi's of all 4 again. Nadal with the FO record 7th win, Fed with the Wimbledon 7th win and breaking the weeks at #1 record, Murray grabbing gold and getting his first slam.

    If I was pressed to trim the list down further, it would be between Federer and Murray though.
     
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  38. mistik

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    Major wise Fed is the worst player of the year.
     
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  39. tennisMVP

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    World Tour Finals will decide it. Simple as that.
     
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  40. Matt H.

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    i would think that's Nadal. 2nd round loss and a DNP for his last two.
     
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  41. veroniquem

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    In slams: Djokovic (1 title + 2 finals). In masters, too early to tell because there are 2 left + WTF but this year has been more even than usual. Winter hard court was Djoko/Fed dominance, red clay was all Rafa, grass was Fed/Murray and summer hard an even split between Djoko, Fed and Murray. I think taking Rafa out of the equation made things more even between the other top 3. Hard to predict the fall results now.
     
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  42. heftylefty

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    It's between Fed & Murray. Murray need a strong indoor season.
     
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  43. TMF

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    In the order of deserving the ATP player of the year as of now:

    1. Federer
    2. Nole
    3. Murray
    4. Nadal
     
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  44. TMF

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    Nope. Murray only has 3 titles while Fed has 6.
     
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    No matter who wins Player of the Year, Murray will be the player people remember most from 2012.
     
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  46. tennisMVP

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    Even if Federer wins 8 titles, he won't win Player of the Year if Murray wins the World Tour Finals. So it really is all about the World Tour Finals. Winner takes all. Djokovic will win Player of the Year if he wins the World Tour Finals too (because he's been in THREE slam finals).
     
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  47. veroniquem

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    He usually has one but as it stands, it's certainly NOT between Fed and Murray. Djokovic has outperformed both in slams and Murray has not won a single master title yet (Djoko has 2, Fed has 3). Murray needs at least 1 master title and WTF to compensate for his inferior results to Djoko in slams. Doable of course but we're not there yet.
     
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    Murray has 3 titles.
     
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  49. mistik

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    Nadal 1 win 1 final.Fed one win no other finals.
     
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  50. TMF

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    I agree whoever wins the WTF will have the best chance to win player of the year, but as of now, Fed is ahead of the other 3 players.

    Also, it's possible that none of the top 4 players win the WTF, so the tie breaker should be decided by the total number of titles.
     
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