soccer-tennis as warmup

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  1. thejackal

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    saw the pros playing with soccer balls a lot during davis cup as a warmup and been doing that before hitting sessions. definitely gets the blood flowing and as someone who is not very good with my feet, I've noticed some improvement from using my non-dominant foot to handle the ball.

    anyone else play soccer or use it as a warmup before tennis?
     
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    yup, I have. Great game. Me and my partners played 2 bounces and 3 touches. We also played it doubles. Sometimes we would just play that instead of tennis. Huge workout, for soccer newbs, at least.

    Problems though:

    Some guy (probably 4.0/4.5) playing a set on the next court complained about the loud "thud"s we were making and threatened to call the police on us. So we stopped that time.

    Another time a large group of soccer players took over a (public) court and played a 4-on-4 game. But when other tennis players showed up and requested the court they refused to leave! They claimed that soccer-tennis was a type of tennis and therefore should be given the same treatment.

    The tennis players called the police on them but the soccer players kept playing. When the police showed up the soccer players started arguing with the cops that they were playing tennis. For a second the cops seemed confused about what to do (imagine a cop squinting up at the sign listing the rules of the court). But eventually the cops threatened them with a fine (I think it was around $40 each), and the soccer people left.

    I sympathize with the soccer players, but they shouldn't have made such a stink about it, because now I'm much less inclined to pull out the soccer ball on those courts.


    Anyway, I'm not sure what the advantages of soccer-tennis are over other types of warm up (aside from how fun it is). Footwork?

    Also, have you noticed hostility from tennis players to seeing a soccer ball being used on a court, even as just warm up?
     
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    Saw the same at Indian Wells. I use soccer drills in training my son for tennis. Great for footwork! I do dribbling drills and incorporable ball handling into agility drills - usually on a grass field off court. I also sometimes play mini soccer games with him on court before a hitting session with a Futsal - a smaller, heavier soccer ball meant for indoor play - works great on a tennis court. Great warm up, good for movement, and is something different.
     
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    I've seen the game/practice used by many European and South American pro tennis players. It appears that sometimes they are just having fun while, at other times, it appears to be part of their training. I've seen players use regular tennis balls, regulation futbol/soccer balls, or some other soccer-like ball.

    I might be slightly annoyed if players were playing futnet (football tennis) for an extended period of time during prime time when some of us are waiting for a long time to get on a court. However, I would not call the police on this matter unless they appeared to be drunk/out of control and/or they were purposely stressing the net (net contact is supposed to be fault in futnet). I would also expect the players, as a safety courtesy, to shout "ball on" if the ball gets away from them and might be a hazard for an adjacent court.

    Futnet should be considered a legit or semi-legit use of a tennis court and we should probably be tolerant of its use as such. Altho' futnet has been around since the 1920s, there seems to be very few futnet courts around.

    Technically, a tennis court is not an official futnet court. A futnet net is supposed to be 1.1 m (~3.6 ft) whereas a tennis net varies from 3 ft (~0.9 m) to 3.5 ft (~1.07 m). Futnet on a tennis court would probably be best w/o the center strap attached to the ground. Also, the official dimensions of a futnet court are 9 m x 12.8 m (for singles or doubs) or 9 m x 18 m (for triples). For sake of comparison, the total area of the serve boxes is 8.23 m x 12.8 m. If you add the doubles alleys then the playing area would be ~11 m x 12.8 m.
     
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    ^ There are many such games -- usually with 2 or 3 players on each team. Some use a badminton net (5 foot net) or a volleyball net (with a trampoline) and a footbag or some type of ball or shuttle. Check out Sepak takraw, Footbag net, Footvolley, Bossaball (spiker uses a trampoline; see images below), Jianzi, and Sipa.

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    wow...this thread has turned into something really cool. never would have thought all of those sports actually existed.

    have heard great things about futsal - seems like thats how brazilian soccer players learn their amazing ball control

    no one has said anything to me or my buddies when we play soccer tennis. then again we use a smaller, inflated ball which is way lighter than a soccer ball.
     
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    I've seen one of the coaches at my club playing soccer tennis with one of the older juniors using a tennis ball.

    Around here, if you played with a full sized soccer ball with two bounces and three touches, the points would go on and on and on.
     
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    I wouldn't mind it, but I have stopped by our hard courts and seen some people playing soccer-tennis and still they had their football cleats/boots on after playing on a dirt soccer field.

    Little peeved as the tennis association in the neighborhood spends a lot of money on resurfacing and upkeep and we also ended up with muddy clumps on hard courts.

    As long as people are respectful and use indoor shoes without cleats, it's cool. I don't see how anyone could complain about the noise from the ball, hitting a tennis ball is about as noisy IMHO.
     
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