Soderling: the most hated man on tour?

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  1. TheCanadian

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  2. scotus

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    He shouldn't have kissed Roger. :)
     
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    I thought that 2007 Wimbledon incident was overblown, but he did act like a clown during Rome 2009 about that linecall.

    In any case, I wish him a speedy recovery and return to tour.
     
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  4. JamieSafe

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    Seriously, because he doesn't give a **** about popular guys he's now hated? I love this guy and miss seeing him on tour. He can do damage with his long stroke playstyle and bombing serves. His win against Nadal FO will haunt him for the rest of his life.
     
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    The tour loves him for sticking up to Nadal antics.
     
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    no, he should have kissed roger instead of mario ancic
     
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    Considering Nadal got a dream rematch the following year in the FO final and whooped Soderling, I don't think Nadal will ponder to greatly about it in the future. Nadal has pretty much crushed every rival of his at RG since 2009.
     
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    Of course he got him back in almost the best way possible, but you can't deny he still feels that dent. Soderling was on fire that day, and I bet Rafa doesn't even dare to watch that match/highlights again.
     
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    You got that right.

    Nadal was definitely extra bitter after that loss. He had a ton of backhanded compliments for Soderling at the press conference.

    I think Rafa still holds a grudge against Soderling.
     
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    Soderling has never won a single grand slam.

    Who cares about him?
     
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    Can we pray for Soderling's return?
     
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    Soderling is just a run of the mill big hitter with no particular talent, whose call to fame was eliminating Rafa in FO 09.

    Sod and Nads are not the best of friends obviously. I think the Wimby 2007 incident was pathetic from Soderling. I honestly don't care if he returns or when, because I think his return will be largely inconsequential.
     
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    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . . .
     
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    The most fascinating of the big 6'5+ bashers bar none. I love his bizarre massive wind-up on serve and forehand (both some of the best shots in the game) and his almost comical movement. Too bad he's gone. After being away from the game so long, I doubt he will ever be the same. I hope I'm wrong.
     
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    Same here. One of my favourite players.
     
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  16. Limpinhitter

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    I'd love to see him bump Nadal on a changeover.
     
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    Soderling had played in the Malaysian Open a few years ago; speaking with some of the stringers from that tournament, they always have a very good impression of him; he is always quiet, soft-spoken and courteous, and well liked by the staff from that tournament.
     
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    Hilarious. Run-of-the-mill big hitters don't win tournaments and reach top 5. It's always fun to read nobodies who can't keep keep the ball in play beyond three shots dismiss athletic geniuses.
     
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    My point is that he is just a journeyman compared to the top 4.
     
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  20. Doubles

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    And yet he has wins against all of them.
     
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    He has a losing 1-6 h2h with Cvac,has only beaten Fed twice in 18 tries,and has a a 2-7 record against Nadal. His record of 2-3 against Murray is a bit better,but overall he doesn't do so hot against the top 4. He's obviously dangerous when he's on,but he is far from a world beater when it comes to beating the top players.
     
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    Soderling plays a lot like Tsonga and Rosol. All are big guys 6' 3" to 6' 5" with massive power. Their strategy is simple just blast the s***t out of the ball and blow their opponents off the court. They can take Rafa out of the tournament. I think it's because Rafa's high topspin groundstrokes when matched against their size play right into their wheelhouse.

    Of course they have to be playing out of their heads on that day to beat Rafa. Against a more versatile talented player they get moved around the court and can't hit the shots they want. That's why they're great tournament spoilers, but seldom win the tournament.
     
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    Relatively speaking, he is a journeyman. No disrespect or anything. DelPo is much better, and has a much brighter future.
     
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    Soderling, has changed his act and is rightfully respected by the likes of Nadal (who he did some embarassing things to at Wimbledon that made him look so bad (the pulling of shorts thing)).

    He's got game and the game misses him. Whether you like him or not he is a name in slams we all miss.
     
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    i'm a huge del potro fan and i've never liked soderling. while i do agree del potro has a brighter future, aside from delpo's slam breakthrough, they are pratically the same. 10 titles to their name, most of which are 250s. soderling has a masters 1000 while delpo has an 11th title, the USO. both have been in the top ten for about two years each, and both have dealt with big setbacks and may never be the same.

    neither is a journeyman in relation to the other. neither are journeymen in relation to players on the tour.
     
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    I know that they've wrote an entire paragraph on some irrelevant swedish rockband that apparently Soderling tweeted about a couple years ago. And I feel that that article is making Soderling out to be a lot more of a jerk than he actually is. Yes, I've seen the video of him and Nadal at Wimbledon. So what? At least he has the guts to stand up to Nadal, in contrary to those other players that get intimidated by Nadal's threatening glare and lose the match before it's been played. I like Soderling and besides that one Wimbledon incident I've never seen him do anything controversial. I also like his appearance, it's very calm and laid back. He's not trying to be some kind of superstar. And of course you've got to like the way he bashes the ball with his forehand!
     
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    :roll:


    Check out his match against Nadal in Rome in 2009.
     
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    There's no such animal as a : "joureyman, relatively speaking". Either you are or you're not. A top ten player who has beaten all top players is by definition not a journeyman.
     
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    ..plus his wife is quite fly -.-

    alot of stuff about him and how he is not liked by the rest of the players was made up by the media imo. ive never heard of any of the other players complaining about him being unfriendly or uncommunative in the locker rooms or anything. the media just took some of the statements he made in interviews - like "im on the tour to win matches, not to make friends" and such - and thought itd be an interesting story to give him this loner, black sheep image among the players. even more so when he came up to spoil things at RG, it was just a fitting story to talk about on the side.
     
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    Agree. Anyone can say anything about Soderling and Rosol, but funnily, they turned out to be the 'GOAT makers' in the Fedal slam equation. Without them, the slam count for Fed and Nadal might have looked like 15-13 , and Fed might have been without a FO / career slam.
     
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    that incident was hilarious in many ways. i can only imagine söderling somehow did not realize that after hitting the backhand he made the recovery steps to the right and when it was called out he remembered it having landed slightly to the left (of where he had hit the backhand of course, and not of where he was standing now) lol. its the only explanation i can come up with as to how he got it wrong but that much oO

    but then it gets ludicrous when the ump comes down and points at a mark and only seconds later cant find it anymore? lmao. i believe i once saw a video of this where the actual marks were digitally highlighted and the umpire actually got a wrong mark as well (albeit not by about 2 meters like sod oO).

    and then when he cant find it anymore its no wonder söderling gets worked up about it as he probably thought it was indeed out. judging by the video footage it was a close call and i wouldnt want to judge it from here. from my own experience, the way the camera angles work it appears that on the far away baseline shots tend to look more "out" than they really are (aka when they look just out to me they are often in) and the other way round for the near baseline. and since the shot looked just in for me on the near baseline it may as well have been out.

    funny video in any case
     
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