Solinco Tour Bite Soft

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  1. SteveI

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  2. Ennismt

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    I've played Tour Bite 17 for some time. I have enjoyed the insane spin but did not like the stiffness and loss of power outside the sweetspot. So I was looking for a softer, more forgiving poly. I recently tried hybriding Tour Bite in the mains with Black Code in the crosses and this helped somewhat, but I still wanted softer.

    Along came Tour Bite Soft so I strung the 17g up in my APD 2013 just like regular Tour Bite (51 lbs). I played one singles match (4.5, about 2 hrs). It plays softer as you'd expect, I got more power and it was forgiving. The comfort is what I was looking for. Spin seems comparable but I did not have the chance to really test the angle groundstroke spin shots that make Tour Bite special. My serves seem to have all the spin that regular Tour Bite had.

    On one note, before and after my first match, I moved the strings with my hand to test "snap back". The soft did not have that very fast "click back" that regular Tour Bite has. Instead it slides back and sometimes not all the way. This makes me think that the Soft version may not have all the spin regular Tour Bite has.

    Nevertheless, if I am trading a bit of spin for the added comfort then I'll take it. I need to try in full bed and also see how long the playability lasts. I think I'll bump the tension up 2-3 lbs. on the Soft.

    Looking forward to other reviews!
     
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  4. Ennismt

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    No. I tried it at 48 lbs in a smaller head size and 18x20. How did 43 lbs work for you?
     
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  5. tennisnut09

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    Good info guys.....any more review about the tension/durabiity and how this string feels when volley. Thanks!
     
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  7. siata94

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    tried the 16g, arm didn't agree with it. Will try the 17g...
     
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  8. avince

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    Question about the weight of this string...
    Did you notice that TBS is lighter than other polys ?
    In this playtest (http://www.tennisindustrymag.com/articles/2010/07/15_solinco_tour_bite.html), it is mentioned that regular TB weighs only 14 grammes, that is mostly inferior to other polys which generally weighs 16 grammes. I am interested to decrease a little bit the swingweight of my APD...
    Thanks.
     
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    I have used both and I can tell you that Black Widow plays slightly stiffer and does NOT give the same access to spin as TBS. I used them both with full set ups in my racket. I did not hybrid either one of them. TBS is a very good string. Perhaps the best soft, shaped poly is Tourna BHBR7. It is a great string. If you have a fairly open string pattern on your frame of choice and you like to string in the mid-50s then give the Tourna a try.
     
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  10. Power Player

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    Tour Bite soft is the truth. It came down to that versus polybreak and polybreak won for me because it simply lasts longer, cost less and was more durable.
     
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    Could u compare TB Soft to BHB7 and explain why BHB7 is better?
     
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  12. SCRAP IRON

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    This comparison will be more difficult for me because of the similarities between the two strings. Tour Bite Soft is a co-poly that offers great spin and a slightly LOWER powered response than Tourna BHBR7. TBS is a little stiffer from my experience but it holds the tension better than BHB7. Where the BHB7 shines in my estimation, is in a flexible frame with an open string pattern. This string can and should be strung in the mid to upper 50s, unlike most polys. It truly one of the softest and most comfortable co-poly strings on the market. The spin potential really adds to controlling the power that this string does possess. I would imagine that TBS would have similar results, but I believe the tighter that the TBS is strung, the less effective it would be...
     
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  13. mikeler

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    I'll be testing out TBS soon as a full job. I tried it previously with NVY and was disappointed in the spin potential. BHB7 is a spin monster and very soft. Neither was very durable for me but the TBS broke on a shank.
     
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  14. JT_2eighty

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    Any comparisons between TBS 17 and TB 19?

    TB 19 in a dense 18x20 MP has been an amazing string for me. Doesn't come in reels though, unless someone knows something I don't? I'll have to try TBS 17 soon.
     
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  15. mlocke1322

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    Both have been comparable for me. TB19 still has a bit crisper feel and allows me to play lower tensions without feeling a bit mushy. I string TBS a bit higher than the standard TB as I think there is a point where you go too low with it and its softness makes it mushy feeling. My main issue with TB19 is I have a lot of balls landing shorter into the court. Directional accuracy and feel is great but I have to work harder to get the ball deep into the court than I do with TBS 17. Lately I have been crossing TBS 17 with a firmer slick poly cross (Isospeed right now) and that gives me a crisper response than a full set.
     
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  16. texag01

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    Played TBS 17 in a full bed today. Had two rackets freshly strung at 58 and 62 on APD '13. The 58 was too hard to control. The 62 was markedly better but did have a little higher launch angle than I liked and therefore it was harder to go after. Comfort was unbelievable. Played regular TB 16L at 55 and it launched the ball for the first two outings then became lower powered and slightly uncomfortable, although it produced a nice ball for about 12 more hours. What should be the next step in string testing? Tour bite soft stung tighter? TBS 16L? Regular TB 17 at 58? Thanks.
     
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  17. parasailing

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    TB 19 plays great in a 18x20 string pattern. I also tried out TBS 17 in my GSP and found TB 19 due to the thinner gauge offered more power and feel compared to TBS 17.

    Only downside of TB 19 is very low durability. I rarely break strings in my current 18x20 GSP but actually managed to break it using this string in about 4 hours.
     
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  18. Hitman99

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    I have been playing w/ Tour Bite Soft 16g @50 lbs in a very wide pattern racket (14x15). Plays great, very comfortable, lots of spin. My second racket is similar, but is a hybrid setup with TBS mains, RPM Blast crosses. I notice much more snapback effect, and the sound is also sharper, more like a cracking noise. Some on this forum have opined that RPM Blast is not a good choice as a cross, so I may try a syn gut next time. It's all good though, I will be using and recommending this string for the foreseeable future.
     
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  19. hoodjem

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    Has anyone seen an RSI stiffness rating on Tour Bite Soft?
     
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  20. mikeler

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    TWU has it for various tensions and swing speeds:

    Item String Reference
    Tension Swing
    Speed Stiffness
    (lb/in)
    1 Tour Bite 16 Soft Low
    (40 lbs) Slow 193.7
    2 Tour Bite 16 Soft Low
    (40 lbs) Medium 164.6
    3 Tour Bite 16 Soft Low
    (40 lbs) Fast 148.6
    4 Tour Bite 16 Soft Medium
    (51 lbs) Slow 253.7
    5 Tour Bite 16 Soft Medium
    (51 lbs) Medium 207.5
    6 Tour Bite 16 Soft Medium
    (51 lbs) Fast 184.0
    7 Tour Bite 16 Soft High
    (62 lbs) Slow 285.2
    8 Tour Bite 16 Soft High
    (62 lbs) Medium 245.2
    9 Tour Bite 16 Soft High
    (62 lbs) Fast 225.7
     
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  21. Egoista

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    never really liked the string myself
     
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  22. hoodjem

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    I got a set.

    Anyone have a tension recommendation for TBS 17 in the mains in a hybrid with Gosen OGSM 16 in the crosses in a Dunlop AG4D100 (90 sq. in.) racquet?

    (I did BW 18 at 54.)
     
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  23. BMC9670

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    I'm using STBS 17 crossed with Prince Syn Gut 16 at 48/52 coming from a full bed of Head RIP Control 17 at 56-58. The set-ups play pretty similar and are both soft and easy on the arm. The big difference is as RIP aged and lost tension, it became a rocket launcher. However, after an initial tension drop, the STBS/PSG setup settles in and plays consistent.

    Not sure about tension in the smaller head size. Mine is 100 sq. in.
     
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  24. hoodjem

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    Thanks. I think I will go up a tiny bit: maybe to 55.

    BW18g is also pretty soft.
     
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  25. teekaywhy

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    I use a similar setup. different racquet but hopefully it's a good reference.
    I go with 53/53 or 55/53. the 53/53 is for cooler weather or indoor hitting. the 55/53 is for summer hitting or days when there's plenty of wind.
    in the end, however, both setups settle down in tension to somewhere in the 40s. At that point, it's more about spin and touch.
    the 16g cross seems to be a good complement to the 17g main. for me, i use STB not STBS so YMMV. Perhaps try 53/55. the additional cross tension should firm up the stringbed but retain characteristics of the STBS.
     
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  26. hoodjem

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    Thanks for the info. What head-size is your racquet?
     
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  27. mikeler

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    I got your e-mail. I've never used your racket and since I've only used mid-plus the last few years, I'm not sure how that would translate to a much smaller head.
     
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  28. teekaywhy

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    Current stick is the V Core Tour G. 98 sq in.
    I've also used the same setup in my Dunlop AG 4D 200 (95 sq in) and my Babolat Pure Storm LTD (95 sq in).
     
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  29. hoodjem

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    OK, thanks.

    I also have BW 18 in my 98 sq. in. AG4D 300 at 59 lbs.

    What's the tension on Solinco in the mains in the Dunlop AG 4D 200 (95 sq in)?
     
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  30. colowhisper

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    I just received a pack of TBS 17g and TB 19g to compare and contrast in my IGPMPs. Although after reading this thread I am thinking it might be perfect to hybrid the two: TBS in mains and TB19 in the cross. Then I get to have matching sticks for m upcoming tournament. Decisions, decisions....
     
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  31. shaysrebelII

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    That sounds like an excellent idea. Color me intrigued.
     
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