Solinco Tour Bite Soft

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  1. DANMAN

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    Does anyone know if the Tour Bite Soft was the playtest B string from the Summer? Or at least how they compare?
     
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  2. JDMasFCK

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    From what I heard it was based off of that playtest but Solinco refined it since the playtest and the result is TB Soft
     
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  3. enderx1x

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    From the thread in TW Questions/Comments
    I participated in playtest B over summer, and from what I can remember they are both about the same. However, my elbow hasn't been 100% so I strung the soft in a hybrid with genesis thunderblast, while I did a full bed for the playtest. For this reason, and also that the playtest was so long ago, it is difficult for me to make a direct comparison.
     
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  4. mikeler

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    I'd definitely be interested in hearing how that hybrid plays.
     
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  5. enderx1x

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    It's fairly soft, definitely softer than regular TB. It has good spin, maybe slightly less than regular TB (in a hybrid), but I like the feel more. The big bonus is I'm finding it doesn't rip through the crosses as quickly as the regular. I was expecting the soft to have more power than the regular, but from my few hours of playing it actually seems a bit lower powered.
     
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  6. mikeler

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    I've got a set of Tour Bite Soft on the way. Sitting out now to heal up my TE so I won't get to it for a little while.
     
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  8. coloskier

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    I've tried TB 18 in two different hybrids. One as a main with RIP Control 17 as the cross. Surprisingly, it had great feel and good spin, but not as much spin as I expected. The other hybrid was with VS Touch 16 on the mains and TB 18 on the crosses. This is a spin monster, with very nice touch and it has lasted a surprisingly long time (over 20 hours and it still hasn't broken). However it is also a rocket launcher. A bit too over powered for my game, even with the extra spin. Those that like power with lots of spin will love this combo, and it isn't as expensive as you would think because it lasts so long. All hybrids were strung at #50 both mains and crosses.
     
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  9. tennis_enthusiast

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    I've been using the 17 gauge Tour Bite Soft for the last two months. I played extensively with the regular Tour Bite 17, and I prefer the TBS to the TB. I've been doing a hybrid of TBS 17 and Gosen OG Micro, 56 lbs. for the TBS and 58 lbs. for the OGSM. It feels great to me, although it's quite a bit more noticeable when the strings die than the traditional tour bite. I feel that the soft version becomes very trampoline-like after a good 10-12 hours of hitting. Fortunately, if you buy a reel and cross it with OGSM, it isn't very expensive to string.
     
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  10. Ross K

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    What frame were you using?
     
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  11. coloskier

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    BLX Pro Staff 90.
     
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  12. Ross K

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    Cheers. Was just curious as in the last year I've played VS and Pacific Gut with Co-focus in Blade 98 and Fischer Pro No 1 and loved it - but in Juice 100 and APD gut/poly was not to my liking - rocket launcher time! Anyhow, still debating VS/TB tbh.
     
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  13. coloskier

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    I've got 24 hours of hitting on it and I've got two bad notches that I expected to break earlier tonight but didn't. Played against a strong 5.5 player from France who is 20 years younger and was still able to get enough spin to keep the ball in the court on full swings. Best of all we split sets.
     
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  14. GabeFSU

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    Solinco TB Soft 17g - Full bed or hybrid?

    Just got my first set of Solinco TB Soft 17g.

    I was playing with Pro Signam Tornado string 17g before and when I played 4/5 times per week it started to cause shoulder soreness. I was playing it in a hybrid setup at 48/52lbs., but it is still rated a tad on the stiff side.

    Due to some soreness, I tried a full bed of X-One Biphase 16g and I love the feel, but REALLY miss the spin potential. I have always liked the feel of a full bed of multis, but I hit heavy topspin & kick serve and notice the difference when I get aggressive.

    Thus, do I hybrid the Solinco soft with NXT/NRG2/Gut/Biphase or do I trust that is is "soft" and try a full bed? Thanks!!
     
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  15. GabeFSU

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    stiffness comparison chart

    Per the TW comparison chart the Solinco TB Soft 16g has a stiffness per square inch of only 184! I assume that the 17g version is even softer.

    http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/stringfinder/stringfinder.php

    Meanwhile, the b-phase 16g, which is very comfortable string has a stiffness per sq/in reading of 163.

    I got to believe that the stiffness of the Solinco soft 17 will be around that #, which is why I am considering a full bed. YET, it gets 77% MORE SPIN.

    Is that sound reasoning, or is it just gonna feel stiff cause of the material regardless of "reading"

    Gracias!
     
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  16. mikeler

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    Don't rely only on stiffness numbers. I think a full job of X1 is stiffer than Tour Bite Soft 17 mains with Babolat NVY 16 crosses. I've got both in my bag right now. My guess is that a full job of Tour Bite Soft is going to be a little stiffer than X1 but not by much. Try it out and let us know.
     
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  17. spinovic

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    I've got Tour Bite on some X-Dual Silvers I bought a while back and I really like it. Is the soft version different in any other way than being softer?

    Obviously, the same performance in a softer string is an appealing proposition to me.
     
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  18. Rabbit

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    I just strung a set of TB Soft 1.20. I am looking forward to hitting with it.
     
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  19. JGads

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    About six hours in and I am in love with this string in the 16g version, full bed. Just hoping there's not some severe cliff drop in playability in the next few hours before a restring is due..

    I went with many posters' recommendations and strung higher than regular Tour Bite, 4 or 5 pounds, and I believe that to be spot on as this is a powerful, explosive, responsive string. My favorite part is it still feels more crisp than most polys - I was worried about it being too soft or mushy, like many polys can be, but it's not.

    Would highly recommend the 16 gauge version to anyone interested. (I'm coming from 16L Tour Bite standard). To me it feels like Tour Bite with maybe a touch less of a metallic feel. Very full, meaty feeling string the 16g version is.

    Will update my thoughts later as I play more.
     
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  20. GabeFSU

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    Just hit 2 hours with a full bed of TBS 17 and love it. Plenty of power and spin! The feel at same tension is softer than any poly I have hit, but crisper than multis.

    Like stated by others, I hope playability lasts without a dropoff for many hours. With hybrids and multis I just play till they pop after 8-12 outings. I've always had a tougher time deciding when to re-string all poly jobs.
     
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  21. spinovic

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    Sounds like I'll need to try a set of TBS when I get the chance.
     
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  22. tennisnut09

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    It is a very soft string like multi but it has the control and spin of a poly. Tension stays the same at 12 hrs after initial tension drops. It is still playable around 12 hrs. I am going to play with this string till it dead so I can test the durability.
     
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  23. Rabbit

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    I hit with it today. I prefer Lux 4G. TB Soft felt metallic and not as plush.
     
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  24. JGads

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    Soft like a multi? Don't know about that. String still feels like a poly to me, and strung up higher still feels like a fairly crisp poly to me at that. But not harsh on the arm. Or metallic. Just perfect so far. Still loving.
     
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    With NVY crosses, it feels as soft as a multi to me. Not harsh or metallic. Lots of power but I was expecting more spin.
     
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  26. JGads

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    Good to know if I want to go softer but perfectly fine with the full bed feel for now.

    Re: spin, I'm thinking it's a bit less than regular TB (maybe edges less pronounced?) but still plenty. In fact there have always been moments past where I've questioned TB actually having too much spin so perhaps that's another reason why i'm liking it.
     
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  27. scotus

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    You probably have not found the right tension yet.

    My Tour Bite Soft initially lost out to Volkl V-Torque in the spin department but after sitting in the bag for a week, it really shone for 1 hitting session. I hit some of my best kick serves with the Tour Bite Soft. Unfortunately, it went all downhill the next hitting session.

    I tried the 17 gauge but I could see how the 16 gauge would be firmer and probably produce more spin.
     
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  28. tennisnut09

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    At what tension are we talking about?
     
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  29. tennisnut09

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    Added 2.5 hrs of playing time this morning, total 14 hrs, and the string is still playable. This is good enough for me.
     
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  30. scotus

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    That totally depends on each individual.

    From Mikeler's description, I think he would have gotten more spin by stringing a bit tighter.
     
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  31. mikeler

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    I did 52/56. I'm not real keen on going much higher with poly. The edges are less pronounced than the Black 5 Edge that seems to give me gobs of spin as a main string.
     
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  32. scotus

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    Going back to B5E then?
     
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  33. mikeler

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    Going to try it with NVY next. Never used it in the Exo.
     
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