Something I noticed

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Headshotterer, May 7, 2012.

  1. Satch

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    Because Rafa is catchy for kids, and Fed with his more mature attitude and lifestyle is better to "older" fans.

    Also Fed has that old school style of play, that even some kids can recognize as better over moonballing and pure baseline game.
     
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  2. DRII

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    Passion vs pedigree.
     
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  3. BHud

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    I'm 52, left-handed, and have played for years (former D1 in late 70s). While I respect Nadal's fight, his work ethic, his integrity (hey, I grew up with Connors/Mac/Nastase, etc...this era is lame compared to them), his innovation, and his off-court demeanor, I have never been able to figure out why I always want to see him lose.

    I have recently come to the conclusion that it's because I can't "feel" his game the way I can a more traditional style...which for me ads to the enjoyment of watching specific players. I once tried to hit a forehand with Nadal's motion and damn near tore my arm off...

    Baffled, but it's my only explanation at this point?
     
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  4. monfed

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    Connors/Mac/Nastase weren't cheating or if you wanna call it "gamesmanship". Sure they threw temper tantrums and showed a certain cockiness/attitude, but they played within the rules of the game.

    Overall, I understand your standpoint.
     
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  5. BHud

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    What exactly is Nads doing outside the rules of the game that is providing him with a clearly unfair advantage (beyond questionable bathroom breaks/long periods between points)?

    Connors once erased a ball mark on clay so the official could not review it. Mac constantly delayed matches with temper tantrums. And Nastase was classic...although it was a very low level tournament, he once refused to play until an umpire changed his call - resulting in a 20 minute stand-off where he lined the baseline with hotdogs from a vendor and proceeded to eat them one by one while waiting it out (obviously they didn't want to default him from the tournament given the commitment of the sponsors...and the crowd was eating it up as well!).
     
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  6. DjokovicForTheWin

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    I have to say, Roddick is one lucky sob for being able to submerge his face in those, nightly.
     
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  7. syke

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    Absolutely G.O.A.T!!!

    I would love to do that to my opponent after every point won.
     
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    Not really going make myself a part of this discussion, but if we needed any further proof that you're the same as Nadalwon2012, you've given it to us.

    Nadalwon2012 perpetually and vehemently argued the same thing.
     
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  9. monfed

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    Oh, so Ralph gets to decide what rules to follow and what rules to break?

    For the 100th time then -

    Please realise that time wasting(such as going over the stipulated limit, actually averaging more than the same) is HUGELY detrimental to a rhythmical players concentration such as Federer,Roddick,Ljubicic just to list a few.
    A receiver must not disrupt the server's rhythm and must receive at the server's pace unless it's some type of emergency,not on a regular basis.

    Additionally, when a receiver has to wait and wait in a crouching position(bent back) for Ralph to serve(who's averaging more than the time limit by a long way), it starts taking a toll on the receiver's back. This is especially aggravated in a long match, as if tennis these days wasn't physically gruelling enough. Now extrapolate this deadly concoction in a gruelling 5 hour GS final. I think you get the picture.

    Imagine if I turn this scenario around and said that Ralph should take ONLY about 10-15 seconds b/w points. I'll leave it to your imagination how it'd affect his game. The margins b/w top players is not that big at the very highest levels so when a player is gaining an advantage using unfair means, it must be eliminated. The supposed "small things/small violations" could and most probably would determine the outcome of a match, the margins are so small b/w top players to begin with.

    I'll let the questionable MTOs pass..cause quite frankly it's tedious explaining the same thing repeatedly.
     
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    Lol wtf. Roddick never dated Sharapova.
     
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  12. Numenor

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    This is very interesting to me. Can I purchase a copy of both editions of this textbook online? I would also expect the page numbers which have been changed. I would like to read what Nadal has written. Thanks.
     
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  13. monfed

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    I wonder how Roddick would feel waking up to Mrs plastic face Decker without her makeup on... Don't think it would be pleasant. Now imagine waking up to someone like a Monica Bellucci/Natalie Portman/Jennifer Hawkins. TOTALLY different!

    Don't get me wrong, I totally dig her figure, who wouldn't? But face? Please there are far better.
     
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  14. cc0509

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    Well Roddick is no beauty himself! Just sayin.'
     
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    Young people are stupid-er, naive-r, and rebellious-er, when they get old they will be more Federer. :twisted:
     
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  16. monfed

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    You mean they'll get betterer? :twisted:
     
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    I think Mirka had a great figure when she was playing tennis but there is no question now she needs to lose some weight. Surely you can see that? I would say around 10 pounds or so and she would look a lot better IMO.
     
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  18. monfed

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    You don't think he's handsome? :)
     
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    No, not even slightly but that is just my opinion.
     
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  20. monfed

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    I see that and I agree she could shed a few kilos. I have a problem accepting she's ugly based on her weight when the simple fact is that she has one of the prettiest faces in tennis with lovely dimples no less. I mean it's not like she's obese or anything. Unless her face gets burnt/disfigured,god forbid, she'll continue to look pretty. I hope you see my point.
     
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  21. monfed

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    So, who's handsome on tour in your opinion?
     
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    Yes her face is cute. Great dimples and cheekbones but regardless of that fact she is looking a little frumpy lately and could stand to lose 10-15 lbs. Her face would look even better if she did. Remember she was a pro athlete so people are always going to compare how she is now to how she was as a pro athlete. That is just my opinion though and your mileage may vary! :)
     
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    Marlon Brando. I am talking about in his younger days before he became old and fat.
     
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  24. Swissv2

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    So after seeing the crowd at Indian Wells 2012, and looking at the differences between the "hardcore" Federer fans vs. the "hardcore" Nadal fans I can say this:

    Nadal Fans
    • Females absolutely "love" Nadal, and wish he could ravage them...well you get the point. I stood next to quite a few of them, and they would do anything.
    • People who love the flashy, grinding, gritty, go-all-out tennis love Nadal's style of play.
    • People that love the very fact that Nadal has a 2-1 record over Federer plus the fact they hate Federer with a passion (for some reason or another)
    • Nadal's incredible clay court record.
    Federer Fans
    • People who still appreciate "text book" tennis.
    • People who are merely impressed with the number of records that Federer has accomplished throughout his career.
    • Those who are impressed with Federer's slow motion videos compared to what they see in real time.
    • Most of the media.

    Now, I realize that I left out a few things off, but this list is not constrained to any age group. In person, a lot of these individuals would wear the clothing of Nadal or Federer (I found more wearing Nadal's clothing than Federer's clothing) - but I found it funny that some individuals would switch clothing depending on which pro they were trying to get an autograph from. Or, in some cases, they would wear a combination of clothing. i.e. the girl sitting next to Larry Ellison wore a Federer hat and a Nadal jacket.
     
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  25. Evan77

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    oh, guys ... we all like different things. Mirka is not that beautiful to me (I don't know her tho), but she is obviously beautiful to Roger. She must be an interesting person. Beauty to me is ... more what you have inside than outside.

    Yes, she could lose a few pounds, but maybe Rog loves curves. I have some friends that like bigger girls. Who are we to judge?

    My gf is a little ginger girl and she is the most beautiful girl in the world (to me). She is super smart, always supportive ... we like same books, we like B movies ... etc.
     
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  26. BHud

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    Settle down cowboy...still not squat compared to what used to happen in the 70's! Disrupting a player's rhythm was at a whole different level back then.
     
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  27. syke

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    I like Fed... But fedboys jumping on every "derogatory" remark makes me wanna jump ship.

    Sweet mother of Jesus... Come'on, are you guys getting physically oppressed from the rear?

    Same goes for all the "*******s" & "Djerkers", the names you ppl come up with is simply amazing...
     
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  28. monfed

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    I meant men's tennis player. :p
     
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