SP Crump v.s. Alpha Revo 4000

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  1. Mansewerz

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    I'm looking at these two machines to find the big differences.

    Before, i only noticed that the bases for the Crump are cone lock and the Revo are spring assisted.

    Worth $100 price difference, maybe?

    But now I see that the SP crump has a self centering mounting system.

    So, wouldn't the SP crump be a better buy at $499?
     
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  2. Deck

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    I just picked up a Revo 4000 today at the old price, but the price will be up to $599 by the 15th. The Crump looks nice except for the stupid name.
     
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  3. iplaybetter

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    i would get the revo, so much machine for the money, that said i have not used the crump, but alpa has such a good machine, and comes with service that is truly exceptional
     
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  4. the wise wizard

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    i would buy the alpha, its reliable, accurate and extremely well built,
    and it doesn't have a ridiculous name, they're customer service is supposed to be great although i haven't ever had to used it
     
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  5. Mansewerz

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    Yes, but did you guys read the first post about the mounting.

    And that said, who cares about the name?

    LOL, SP customer service has been great so far for me. And it's $100 less.

    I'm just not seeing how the crump would be worse except for the clamp bases which are basically a convenience issue.
     
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  6. LttlElvis

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    I never have used the Crump, but of the 2, I would choose it because of the mounting. The self centering mounting is much more convenient. 2 knobs vs. 6 knobs to adjust. I've used both cone lock and spring assisted mounts. While spring assisted mounts are nice, I can't say they are tremendously better.

    SP has a good reputation for customer service.
     
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  7. Mansewerz

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    Yea, I was very surprised to find their lower end machines, excluding the Sp swing, to all have a self centering mount.

    If I do upgrade, it will probably be to the Crump. SP customer service has been great to me so far. Plus, cone lock doesn't seem bad. Fixed clamps seem so much better.

    Plus, doesn't Alpha charge shipping?
     
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  8. Il Mostro

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    SP service, before and after sale, has been exceptional in my experience. First rate machines and a first rate company. At the very least, the equal of Alpha by any measure. Some people need to take off the blinders and realize that there are other good options. Myopia sucks.
     
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  9. Mansewerz

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    Wait, does SP no longer give out free string with their machines? They used to say a free reel of this or that with each machine. I got a free reel of syn gut with my swing. Have they stopped?
     
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    Not sure about this. Although the web site does not promote a free tool/free string deal, I got tools and a 660' reel of Ultimatum with my DG. They should be more clear, but just because they are not kicking tires and selling it by the pound I would not assume that there are not add-ons with their other machines. Best to ask.
     
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    called recently because i was interested in swing (1 month ago) they said they no longer give strings.
     
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  12. Mansewerz

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    Dang, that sucks.
     
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  13. Mansewerz

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    Any other input?
     
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    Mansewerz, g o l d s w i t h has a special 10% off the old price till the 17th which is $494 + shipping. They may still charge tax depending on which state you are in. That looks like a good deal.
     
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  15. Mansewerz

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    Yea, but I could also get a demo from SP when available so that's 10% off $499.

    Plus, i'm not gonna buy now, just looking towards future.
     
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    No doubt. The Alpha is the better built. The SP 12 and 6 supports at the extended type and are prone to bending. The table on the SP does not have reinforcing plates in it's center. Alpha does. Choosing the questionably faster mounting over the much faster and easier to use clamps of the Alpha should be reason enough by itself. You use the clamps more than any other part during the string job. If lock out is what you want, Alpha is the way to go. You get what you pay for and the devil is always in the details if you are experienced enough to know what to look for.
     
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    A "demo" is a euphemism for a machine returned by a customer who either did not like it or had problems. Alpha is still the better buy. But you already sound like your mind id made up.
     
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  18. Mansewerz

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    I don't think those are just plastic though. My swing's 6 and 12 supports are a metal bolt with a plastic spacer.
     
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  19. nadalfan!

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    I thought you were gonna get a flex 940?? :(
     
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    ^^So many choices, hard to choose.

    I don't think the Flex 940 has self centering mounting.
     
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    I ordered my Revo yesterday late afternoon and Mark already shipped it and sent me the tracking number. Very impressed with the expediting of my order. So far the great service and response I have read here is true.
     
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    Does Alpha sell demos? Also, how much is shipping?
     
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    I have no idea if they do sell demos. Call Mark or e-mail him. Everytime I e-mail him I get a response within the hour. I have not confirmed the cost of the UPS shipping, I purchased it through JR @ tennis Machines. Estimate for UPS ground is $30-$40 from TX to SC. There is a used Revo on the big auction site right now with 6 days left.
     
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  24. Mansewerz

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    wats his e-mail address
     
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    It doesn't. It doesn't bother me that much, but I'm a pretty novice stringer.
     
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  27. Mansewerz

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  28. Mansewerz

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    Mark was real helpful. It's hard not to like Alpha's customer service.

    I dunno, it's either the clamps or the mounting.

    Plus, i could save some cash on the crump. decisions decisions. If I can find a used revo though, I'd buy it for a good price.
     
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    Like I mentioned earlier, there is one on the big auction site with 4 days left.
     
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  30. Mansewerz

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    Yea, I checked it, the price is going up and up though LOL. I dunno if i'll get it.
     
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