Speed up the hard courts please!!!!!!

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  1. tennisnut1969

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    Does anybody out there want to see the courts sped up? I wish someone would. It would be nice to see aggresive players rewarded for their play and would bring back more variety into the game. The pro game could use some more variety not just baseline play. Any opinions?
     
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  2. julianoz

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    more aces = more variety = awesome tennis!!!2
     
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  3. daddy

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    Well as much as I would like to agree with you on the hc speed, I have a bit different solution. Imo the best way to add variety to tennis is to make sure that out of the 13 main tounraments ( 4 GS's, 8 TMS and 1 YEC ) at least three are played on grass. The way it is now, we have only Wimbledon on grass, 4 on clay. If we would have more grass courts, we would have more variety. I agree that we need a couple of extra fast HC tourneys so that means we need at least one extra fast on the tour but grass would be very nice.
     
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  4. fastdunn

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    grass court isn't exactly fast court now, is it? this year, AO director claimed they are now 2nd fastest slam after us open.
     
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  5. daddy

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    Well did you consider I was not talking about the grass now ? Still I do think grass provides something specific, you will see a lot of aces and winners even on todays wimby grass because it is still grass and its slipery. Also it is a natural court which is better for overall health of the players.

    Ps - I tend not listen to the guys who are involved in something, talking about that very thing. AO director can claim whatever he wants.
     
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  6. fastdunn

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    ok i've got it. i fully agree on that. i've got confused a bit on your posting because OP was talking about speed.
     
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    Terrible thread. The only slow hardcourts are Indian Wells and Miami. Slow down the hardcourts.
     
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  8. tacou

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    why would you want to slow down hard courts?
    there is clay for a reason.
     
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    Alright speed up the hard courts and lengthen the clay season to 3 months instead of 2 months. Cut down in the amount of hard court events as well. Most things these days suit players like Federer, Djokovic, and Davydenko. Nadal has to be the GOAT on clay to stay number 2.
     
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  10. Andres

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    Speed up Madrid, Paris and TMC to their former surfaces, please.
     
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  11. daddy

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    Tonight you are a bit nervous ? Of course we should have more diversity on the ATP. On the other hand Federer, Djokovic and Davydenko are the Roland Gaross semifinalists so please do not tell me you thought they do not play extremly well on clay ?
     
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  12. Nadal_Freak

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    Well they like the medium-fast surface the most while Roddick and Blake like the extreme fast surfaces. So most of the tour is geared toward these 3 players likings.
     
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  13. pow

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    Geared towards them? I think it's just inevitable since they are good on virtually every surface.
     
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    I like having a variety of hard court speeds, it adds to the excitment and gives us a look at different players and different styles, also its only fair to have varying speeds because if the speed was fast on all then certain players would have a constant and extreme advantage over other players and vis-versa, this way all players have to play on surfaces they are both comfortable and uncomfortable with and the playing field is level over the course of a year, maybe what they should do is actually play less on hardcourts because they make up 60% of ATP tournys and the players better on hard courts are at an advantage rankings and earning potential wise, maybe they should have a few more clay, another week of grass, and perhaps a few more indoor carpet, thats a huge change though and would never happen even if it would be the most fair
     
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  15. Nadal_Freak

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    I totally agree. Some of the other people don't seem to want that though. They want everything fast.
     
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  16. flyer

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    ^^^Thats because they want Americans to win and don't really take into account what is fair, not knocking anyone I understand wanting your guys to succeed is only normal, but its the truth.
     
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    My friend, the tour is not geared towards anyones likings. The tour is as it is and they are as they are - the two are not connected in any way. It just happenes that Djokovic and Federer can play indoors, on clay, grass, hard courts ..
     
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  18. daddy

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    I am not sure I follow. Which americans are winning anything important lately ?
     
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  19. Richie Rich

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    what is "fair" then? everything on clay?
     
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  20. flyer

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    read the post you....
     
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  21. Nadal_Freak

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    3 months of clay, 3 months of grass (slow and fast), and 3 months of hard courts (slow and fast). 3 month offseason so players can recharge. Yeah that would be the perfect world. :)
     
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  22. daddy

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    So what else is perfect around here ? Nothing ?? Well I knew that but I am not sure about the others ..
     
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  23. Nadal_Freak

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    Uh don't understand what you just said. Explain.
     
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  24. daddy

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    Nothing is perfect on this world. So ATP calendar will not be the first perfect thing. Sadly.
     
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  25. Nadal_Freak

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    It can improve though. Nothing will satisfy everyone but having more variety would help. Too many hard court tournaments and not enough clay and grass.
     
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  26. daddy

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    This is a classic argument. I would vote for grass, you for clay and roddick for hard. Whats new here - how would you please everyone ? Only one way I know - dont give a **** about anyone and they all have to obey. Basically thats what ATP does, chases money and does not care about anything else.

    Also no way to resolve this, similar to 1hbh vs 2hbh and long rallies vs serve&volley arguments.
     
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  27. iplaybetter

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    more speed would be great, but it needs to start at the all england club
     
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  28. Klatu Verata Necktie

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    The problem with having a longer grasscourt season, with some Masters Series tournaments shifting to grass is that it is a very expensive surface to maintain. No current Masters Series tournament would be willing to give up its status to a grass event, and none would be willing to switch.
     
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  29. Otherside

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    he wants Nadal to have a chance
     
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    Agreed. Wimbledon to my mind has suffered since it has slowed.

    I would like to see some faster hardcourts. Then again I would also like to see some more tournaments played on green clay. I just like the variety. I agree with Andres comment about Paris.
     
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  31. daddy

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    Btw you can read here but Monte Carlo and Hamburg are due to lose its masters series shields in 2009. There you go, you wanted 1/3 clay but there will only be Rome and RG if the things stay the way ATP wants them to.
     
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    ... the voice of reason !!! ;)
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