Spin, Thin, and Power at 11 ounces?

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  1. counterpuncher

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    As per my initial recommendation, the Rebel 98 is worth consideration, it just needs a crisp string such as syn gut or poly, I use TB. Best feel of any of the port racquets that i've used. SW doesn't feel more than about 320, due to the ports. It's a racquet that surprised me.
     
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  2. pmata814

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    What is 'TB'?

    I agree that it needs a crisp string. I've normally liked Forten Sweet in other racquets but in this one I preferred OG Sheep Micro so far. Still experimenting with different synthetics at the time.
     
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  3. counterpuncher

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    Sorry, Solinco Tour Bite.
     
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  4. Bud

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    Just buy a PD and be done with it :)
     
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  5. TripleB

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    I really wanted to love this racquet...even demoed it twice. Here were my thoughts:

    1st Time:
    let me start off by saying that this racquet seems to be strung in the 40s so my impressions may not be typical of the racquet if it were strung mid-tension; the spin with this racquet is amazing and the overall feel is softer than with my Cortex version; the control with this compared to it's Cortex cousin is way down…I really didn't feel like I knew exactly where the ball was going; this racquet plays a great deal lighter than my Cortex version and I found myself in front of the ball quite a bit; with the lighter swingweight I don't think this version gave as solid of feel (especially at net) as the Cortex version but I liked it better at net than the other 3 racquets here; again, it may have been the string or tension but I would choose my Cortex version over this model; still like the fact (as does the Cortex version) that this racquet is solid enough to block back serves with some pace

    2nd time out: this is probably my second favorite racquet in this group of demos...but that ain't saying much; this thing is a spin monster (even more than my Cortex version) because of the lighter weight and the ability to really get the racquet head moving; like the Roddick version, I just seem to have no control with this racquet - I will say however that it seems to have a tension in the mid 40s now, even my serves that I usually hit extremely well with the Cortex version, with the 2012 it flies

    2nd Time:
    PD (FO model): I tried the PD a second time because the first time it felt the demo was strung around 40 pounds and I just never found the control I got out of my GT version; this demo was strung tighter but to be honest, I still didn't find a lot I liked about this racquet; the positives for me were the spin and the 'whipability'; it does give good pop, especially on the serve, but I never felt like I could really control that power; the stiff feel (even more than I was expecting or remembered) really stood out with this racquet (especially compared to both the Pro Kennex and Volkl); hitting with it again really made me realize that this racquet is probably for a younger and stronger player than I am


    Thanks for the suggestion.

    TripleB
     
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  6. Shangri La

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    The Pro Kennex QTour 295 is pretty low powered, from my experience and those in the QTour 295 thread.
     
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  7. TripleB

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    I appreciate everyone taking the time to respond and offer their advice!!!

    In the end I ended up ordering the following demo racquets for a variety of reasons (suggestions, previous experiences, customer reviews, T-W playtester reviews, comments made in other posts, etc):
    - Yonex VCORE Tour 97 (310g)
    - Pro Kennex Kinetic Ki Q5 (295g)
    - Head YouTek Graphene Instinct MP
    - Dunlop Biomimetic F3.0 Tour

    Again, I appreciate all the input, help, and advice. I'll let you know how the racquets play once I get them in (hopefully Friday). If T-W's reviews of them are any indication, it should be a great group of demos!

    TripleB
     
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  8. TripleB

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    Just ordered my last set of demos for a long time. If I don't find a new racquet in this group of demos then I'm going to find a softer string set up for the Prince Triple Threat Warrior Midplus.

    After that I will just appreciate the fact that I'm back on a tennis court playing the game my doc told me I should never play again.

    I went with the Pro Kennex Ki QTour 295, the Pacific XFeel Tour, and the Pacific XForce. As a wild card (because it doesn't fit the 11 ounce criteria or the thin criteria), but from the recommendation of Andy at T-W, I threw in the new Babolat AeroPro Drive as my 4th demo.

    I appreciate all your help, recommendations, and opinions.

    TripleB
     
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  9. Ross K

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  10. rolleroh

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    Have you tried Dunlop Aerogel 4D 500 Tour??

    Can still buy new from TW for $65 & I've been TRYING to replace it for months w a 'better' new racquet, including newer versions--- I've owned BIO 500 Tour (twice) & demoed F5.0 Tour, WANTING to prefer them,,,,,,
    Only Blade 16x19 has been close, but Demo hurt my arm w full multi setup/ 500 Tour Stiffness is 71 & I can string w chain-link fence without a problem--- actually any string I don't like ends up in the 500 & is magically better and always 'playable'.......

    Like many of us, I am also plagued w Stage-4 Racketaholicism, prefer a beefier static/ SW, bit thinner beam, but simply play my best w this racquet!!
    BTW-- great platform frame as well.....

    Friends I play laugh at me whenever I use a different racquet, bc feedback from other side is same as above.........

    Best summary is effortless power, INCREDIBLE topspin, and solid control in very maneuverable package---- $65 new doesn't hurt either

    Sorry for ramble---- just cld be perfect fit & easy to overlook

    Good luck
     
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  11. denj3325

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    I am very interested in what you thought of both the Yonex Tour 97 (310) and the Dunlop F3.0 Tour, as they are both frames that I am currently looking at. Did you get a chance to hit with them? What did you think?
     
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  12. TripleB

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    Search '1st Impressions' by TripleB and you'll find my thoughts.

    In short...hated all of them.

    TripleB
     
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  13. Ashley D

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    I'd echo the Donnay recommendations.

    If you want a lighter, thin beamed racquet with a bit of added spin, go for the Donnay X-Dual Silverlite Extended.

    Can adjust the weight using the customization kit, and since injuring my knees, the extra .5inches seem to help.

    And to make things nicer, they're on special for $99 at the moment.
     
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  14. DANMAN

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    I think you would be doing yourself a disservice if you don't try the blade 98S.
     
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  15. Chotobaka

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    Although I am a Fischer/Pacific guy, I am surprised someone has not suggested the lighter versions of Babolat's Pure Storm. Pure Storm GT is surely worth a demo. Despite the "low" power rating, I do not find it at all deficient in the power category.
     
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  16. TripleB

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    Never liked longbody racquets, but you make an excellent point about the extra length. Found myself 'reaching' for more shots than I used to before knee surgery. Maybe try a Pure Drive Plus :)

    TripleB
     
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  17. cknobman

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    Gamma 320X.

    98sq inch. 11.4 oz (strung). Headlight. 16x19 open string pattern. 20 mm straight beam.

    I just switched to this frame and it is absolute dynamite!

    What makes it even better is you can get it for only $50 online.

    Played my first competitive singles matches with it this weekend in a tournament. Did great and made it to the finals where I lost out 5-7,5-7.
    Not a bad first outing with a racquet!!! For the record I have been playing tournaments since 2006 and this is the first time I have ever made the finals of singles in the main draw.
     
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  18. dr325i

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    Let us know more details when the Honeymoon is over
     
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  19. BigCat

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    I have had three knee surgeries, and I note that you mentioned body torque for power. I suggest you consider finding a pro who will work with you to develop a more closed forehand stroke, (more like the Federer style than Joker's) which will take a lot of pressure off the knees. With a OHBH, the Federer style again works best, or if THGH. You Tube Agassi and note the near zero backswing and minimal body twist - easier on the knees. Yes, it'll take a couple of months of two lessons a week. Probably not the anwswer your wanted! As to racquets,, I find the QTour 295 is the best all around racquet I have ever had the pleasure to swing, strung with Poly at 48. My opponents knees hurt more than mine.
     
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  20. Ashley D

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    This is really interesting. I've had meniscal tears to each knee and arthroscopic surgery on both. I have a one handed backhand and definitely notice this is easier on my knees. But I have a western windshield wiper forehand and hit mainly open stance, which def aggravates the knees. Might try flattening it out a bit and closing of the stance.
     
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  21. 10isace

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    best one that fits the bill is perhaps the PK Kinetic Q5 295
     
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  22. LeeD

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    Prince Red, but it's not thin, it's around 25. It's rated around 316 SW, but it's extended 1/4", so it plays like 322. There's even an open pattern version, 16x16. Serves like a PD+, but is much easier on the arm.
     
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  23. spinovic

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    If you are open to going outside of your listed specs, I actually think the Blade 104 would be a great choice.

    It is 27.5 inches long and has a 104 sq in head, but it is very maneuverable and doesn't feel as big as you might fear from the specs. I have dubbed it a user friendly players frame.

    It is comfortable, has decent power, good at net, can generate spin, etc. It is an excellent all-around frame.

    If you demo some sticks, this one should definitely be on your list. Don't let the specs fool you, trust me. I had little interest in it until I bought one for my wife and tried it myself. If I didn't love the racquet I have so much, I might would use it full time.

    Strung and with an OG, finished specs will be right in your weight range. Try it. Trust me.
     
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  24. Bartelby

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    And oddly enough, Triple B moved on to the 12 ounce plus Prince Response.
     
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  25. donquijote

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    Vcore Si 98 is a spin machine. Si 100 is slightly thicker.
     
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  26. TripleB

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    That I did, but have recently been having some shoulder pain in my serving arm...currently using the Steam 99LS until I feel I can get the 12 ounce Response moving without pain again.

    TripleB
     
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  27. swizzy

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    donnay xenecore red 99.. fits all your criteria perfectly and is a plush stick
     
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  28. babar

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    I would suggest the Prince Graphite 100. The spin and thin part are present in spades. The power part will have to be engaged with a thin, multi-filament string. I tried full co-poly and it still felt great. The power wasn't the best, but it could be easily generated b/c the frame swings so light and easily. The feel and control were so precise that you felt you could swing out and still get the ball where you wanted it to go.
     
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