Spoiler: Really impressed by this guy's victory yesterday.

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  1. Ripper

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    I'm talking about Coria. He was double faulting his *** into the ground, as usual. Lost the 1st set 1-6, was down 2-6 (or something like that) in the 2nd set and facing a match-point against him, but, somehow, finds a way of surviving all the way to a tie breaker and wins the set. Then, wins the 3rd set and the match! That's not all; there was a point in the 3rd set, where a ball hit by Mathieu bounced on the line right beside Coria and the linesman called it out. Coria said it was in. The amazing thing is it was match-point for Coria; had he said it was out, he would have won it right there! Instead, he battled on (for what seemed like an eternity) and won anyway. Way to go Coria!!!

    PS: Something I found funny was that, immediately after he said that the ball was in, he looked up to the sky and said "puta madre", which is a very bad expression in Spanish. When he did that, I thought, "will God forgive him and let him win?", lol. Well, later, Mathieu started to recover and, even, saved 7 match-points, before losing, eventually. Yes, he was forgiven for his blasphemy.
     
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  2. theJuniorACE

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    Hes one of my favorite players,
    hes just so much fun to watch

    im glad he called it in and did the rite thing,
    but i can also see why he said that, being match point and all,
    cant say i havent said that on a few occasions....
    lol

    im happy for him aNd im rooting for him today as well
     
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  3. crazylevity

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    He was 1-5 down. If he was 2-6 down in the second after having lost the first, the match would be over, no? :)
     
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  4. Andres

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    Actually, "puta madre" isn't such a bad expression in ARG.
    It's tru, literally, it's awful, being "puta" = biaatch, and madre = mother...
    But used alltogether, as in 'puta madre', it's more like saying "DAMN IT" or "CRAAAAAP!!!"

    Gaudio uses a lot "la puta madre que lo re mil pario!!" or "la concha de tu madreee", wich isn't actually cursing anyone's mother, but himself.

    It's a self-curse :p
     
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  5. Rickson

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    But did the replay show that the ball was actually in?
     
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  6. Shabazza

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    it was in right on the line!
     
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  7. Ripper

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    You are 100% right. Sorry for the error.
     
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    Argentinians are, maybe, the most filthy mouthed of all latin americans. Expressions that would get any kid at school in trouble in another country would, probably, pass by as normalish in Argentina, lol. Andres, I'm not bashing Argentinians. I'm not Argentinian, but I enjoy the way they are... puta madre!!!
     
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    Coria showed amazing heart in the victory over Mathieu. He'd been playing dreadfully in the second set, his entire game infected by a horrifying inability to put his serve in the service box, at one point double-faulting six times in one service game! It was the type of embarassing mental nightmare performance you see sometimes in young baseball pitchers, painful not only for the player, but for his opponent and anyone watching. After a particularly weak push into the net, he tossed his racquet in the air in apparent resignation. Most human beings would have broken down in tears. It was literally to the point where you thought: he just can't continue, he's got to quit. Sensing this, even the pro-Mathieu, partisan French crowd tried to rally him with applause.
    And then, amazingly, at 1-5, he recovered. The serve lost its tightness, the groudstrokes, drop shots, slides, and reaches came together. It was as if all of a sudden he came out of his head and let his game play itself. And then it was meltdown time for Mathieu.
    It was great drama, and for all of those who have accused Coria of poor sportsmanship, this was an emphatic denial. He concession of the called-out point which would have given him the match was the mark of a mature champion. Not only did he show why he remains a force in the top tier of the game, this comeback was a remarkable demonstration for any young athlete of the possibility of perserverance and recovery from even the lowest point. Bravo Coria!
     
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    Maybe we should start a thread on the odds & ends about insulting in every language. :p
     
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  11. ShcMad

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    TW will probably ban the use of "puta madre" on this forum thanks to you ANDRES, hijo de la re-mil!!! :mad: hehe just kidding.
     
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  12. christo

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    My personal feeling is that if you hook someone wilfully and blatantly even at the Pro level, you will have ZERO credibility with your peers, let alone with your own conscience. Cheating on line calls may win you some points but once you get a rep as a cheater people will treat you like a leper. I played a guy in a tournament recently, before the match even started ,guys I didn't even know were telling me to get a referee! I won but I had to call out the guy a number of times for outrageous line calls. Imagine a top pro getting a rep as a cheater, you are doomed to a career of humiliation, does the name Justine ring a bell? No matter how well she plays she will NEVER shake the perception that she is a cheating little bee-atch, the sad part is it didn't have to be that way, she just wanted to win so bad it clouded her judgement and now her credibility is damaged.
     
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  13. Max G.

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    It doesn't necessarily work that way with line calls though.

    Remember, at the pro level, the linespeople make the calls, not you. If Coria had not called that ball in, he could very well have pleaded that he didn't see where it landed.

    I'm pretty impressed that he actually had both the guts and the confidence in his sight of the ball to call it in - wouldn't have expected it out of him, I'll have to change around my perception of him.
     
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  14. This thread has everything!

    Great story about Coria's comeback. Would have liked to seen this match. But I look forward to watching him on clay this year. His movement and craftiness is a delight.

    Gotta correct Ripper on the use of "Argentinians." The noun form is Argentine (AR-jen-tyne).

    And we have a new member, LeftyServe, with only 7 posts, and it's not utter rubbish about how Monfils should retire, Baghdatis should be in the hall of fame, whose hottest, Roddick bashing, etc. His post is well written, coherent, and actually uses punctuation. Amazing!
     
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    Nadal is going to beat the crap out of him.
     
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    haha, right! i was wondering the same thing...anyway, if you notice this...Coria started to win after his wife left the stands...weird eh?
     
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  17. Andres

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    Actually both are correct: Argentinian AND argentines :)
     
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  18. Andres

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    LA RE CONCHA DE LA RE MIL PUTISIMA MADRE QUE LOS RE MIL PARIOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :mrgreen:
     
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  19. oscar_2424

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    Che tranquilo viejo
     
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  20. ShcMad

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    Nene, por favor lavate la boca con shampoo.
     
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    "Lavate el culo, con aguarráaaaaaaas!!!!!!!!!! "
     
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  22. ShcMad

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    :mad: pero Andres es el maleducado aca...:p
     
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  23. bystander

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    I started to watch the match just when he started winning (serving at 1-5 in the second set) and I saw Carla many times. When was she not there?
     
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  24. ta11geese3

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    it's lávate, guys =P
     
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  25. Andres

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    "lávate" is spanish
    "lavate" is argentinian... slang, if u like to. :mrgreen:
     
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  26. Taram_Nifas

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    Just curious.

    When Coria is serving poorly and ends up winning isn't it usually because the other guy if doing a hackjob at his own end?

    I recall a U.S Open Match last year, I can't remember his oponent, but the match was almost unwatchable seeing two pros sending a fusilade of dbl faults against each other it was unreal.
     
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