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  1. thewisteron

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    I don't know where to post this, so I will post it here. Every now and then I see posters saying they are "sponsored" by companies. How do you get sponsored? I thought only the pros get this luxury?
     
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  2. ClemsonTennis9

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    most of the people here have the player preffered program which is not a full sponsorship, you just get a certain percent off the retail price. with Dunlop i got 4 racquets, bag, stencil, and 10 sets of string for about 325 dollars. what you can do to get them is to email the company and they will send you a player preffered sheet. The catch is that you have to have a certain ranking to get the player preffered program.
     
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  3. Geezer Guy

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    You've just got to get out there, thewisteron, and show them what you're made of.

    I was playing in a big match at my local club, using my trusty Prince racquet, wearing Adidus shoes, and Nike duds. That day there happened to be representatives from Nike, Adidus, Prince and Wilson at the club for a meeting with the head pro. The head pro was a bit late, so these guys were watching my match for awhile, although I didn't know who they were. After awhile the Wilson guy took off, but the others stayed. I had one of those rare GREAT matches that day - EVERYTHING was working much better than normal. Anyway, after the match these guys call me over. They ask me how often I play, where I play, etc. I tell them I play all the time, all over town. They glance at each other, and look kinda worried. Finally the Prince guy says he'll pay me $100 if I'll never play with a Prince racquet in public again - says something about their reputation being in serious trouble. Then the Nike and Adidus guys throw in similar offers. By this time I catch on, and I hold out saying how much I like their products. However, after awhile they all chip in together, and say that if I'll use only WILSON products they'll throw a little sumpin-sumpin my way every year. I agreed, and they left laughing about how the Wilson guy will never leave early again. So, I'm a Wilson guy now. Wilson's tried banning me, but as long as I can get their stuff annonymously over the internet, they can't stop me!

    That's MY success story.
     
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  4. NoBadMojo

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    they have various programs...often college players and juniors get discounted goods on a package, but other players are 'free-listed' and get a few frames free a year, along with a bag., strings, maybe some clothes, and other stuff. typically you earn your way to something like this, either as a ranked player and/or a respected teaching pro, etc..someone that has impact who can stimulate sales of the product line.
     
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  5. danniflava

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    Well, for me, I play in the Under 16 Ontario Tennis Association. What would my ranking have to be?
     
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  6. TommyGun

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    Danni,

    I would suggest you look up the local rep for Volkl or that Canadian company someone mentioned herer before. You also might want to contact TTK or heck, tulios.com. You will have a better chance with a lesser known brand. When you get to the big guys, you have to have some reason for them to give it to you or you have to be able to generate sales.
     
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  7. aj_m2009

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    Tommy, what are some other lesser known companies? I play 14 and under USTA tournaments. I am ranked like 412 I think in the Missouri Valley rankings. My record ain't great but I have only played 2 tourneys. It says I am 1-4 but it is actually 2-4 but one guy I played didn't have a membership but the tournament let him play anyway so that match didn't count. But I know if I played more I would have a lot better record, especially if I could play worth something in the morning.:) And right now I can't play a lot so my record will probably stay like that for a little while. Anyway, any type of endorsement would help right now so if you, or anyone for that matter, could give me some info on this topic it would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
     
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  8. copek

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    hi geezer guy,

    maybe i'm being a bit slow here (it has been known ;-)), but why would they pay you NOT to use their products if you are using them to good effect all around town?

    C
     
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  9. verdasco67

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    Not only professional tennis players get sponsored....coaches and juniors also get sponsored...
     
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  10. scez

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    Where in Ontario do you play tennis dani?
     
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  11. mrwise

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    Copek...
    Here is a clue. Geezer is probably not the best player. So I am guessing that they were going to pay him to not use a Prince racket because he was sucking so bad. Makes sense. I get offers all the time like that. hehe
     
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  12. Kaptain Karl

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    Geezer - Your post has been nominated for KK's Post Of The Year award. (And it's only March!)

    That was great!!!

    - KK
     
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  13. copek

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    aha ... a classic case of missed sarcasm through the written word! and me brit too ... in that case my sponsorship offers should be flooding in soon!
     
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    You are being slow. It was a joke :D


    Geezer Guy, that was AWESOME :D

    Regards, Predrag
     
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  15. TommyGun

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    aj,

    I wouldl try Bancroft, ttk, cayman, X-45 and Pro Kennex. All can be found by doing a google search or their addresses are in Tennis Magazine.

    t-gun
     
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  16. aj_m2009

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    How exactly do you think I should go about trying to get a sponsorship deal?
     
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  17. Kaptain Karl

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    aj - Haven't you been paying attention to this thread? The answers are within it. (We're not going to DO IT for you....)

    - KK
     
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  18. aj_m2009

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    Yes I have paid attention to what was posted but I asked Tommy what HE thought. I wanted to know if HE thought I should wait around for someone to come to me or if HE thought I should just go right up to them.
     
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  19. tennisboy87

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    I hate to sound mean or anything, but you are not going to get any type of sponsorship deal with a ranking of 412 in the Mo Valley. You'll need to at the very least get into the top 25, and most likely the top 10. I also play in the Mo Valley, and I'll tell you a good way to get your ranking up for this summer. If you can qualify for the Supers, that would be great, but you'll probably need to play in some of the Futures events, which are sectional events that many ranked MV guys play in. You can get into these even with a high ranking, and you can use these to help you play some good sectional competition. If you play in 2 or more of these, you can also play in the Championship Sectional in August in OK, which is a bigger sectional event and it carries some national points as well. I would say start with these, and with a lot of hard work, your ranking will get up there. Once it's high enough, you can then look into getting a preferred player type deal or maybe even a full sponsorship deal.
     
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  20. aj_m2009

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    Don't worry, you don't sound mean. I didn't really figure with that ranking I could get a sponsorship deal but I just wanted to know for future reference. Right now I kinda figure that I still have a little way to go to get up pretty high if I compare my self to I think he is the 17 ranked kid in Mo. Valley. I had to play this kid in the first match of the last tourney I played and he hit the crap out of the ball. Unfourtuantely I'm not capable of doing that at the current moment so I am going to try throwing people off with a lot of spin. If you take a look at Emilie Loit you can really tell it works. At least on the womens side anyway. But anyway, I wouldn't be real suprised if I wont be able to hit hard for a couple of months anyway. I have only been playing for just over 3 years but I have progressed pretty rapidly in that time. I would like to play more tourneys but like I said, right now I can't. But I plan on playing a few tourneys in the summer and I plan on playing an ITF tourney in October.

    Well, sorry to leave you a book but I have trouble shutting-up sometimes. And thanks for the advice.
     
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  21. NoBadMojo

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    good post TennisBoy.....I dont think AJ should be spending his energy trying to get sponsored..not yet..i would suggest to AJ to work hard on his game, have fun with it, play lots of tourneys, and look towards getting near the Top of the 16's, and then contacting companies..i think it would probably take Top10, and that would fetch maybe some preferred pricing on a package
     
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  22. aj_m2009

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    Don't worry, I'm not trying yet. I know I still need to get a lot better to get a sponsorship deal. Like I said, I just wanted to know for future reference.
     
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  23. TommyGun

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    aj,

    No harm in trying. Many of the smaller companies are trying to get market share and know that if you start young you will usually be brand loyal for life. I suggest you write to each one, tell them your tennis plans, ask if they are interested in helping you on your way. DO NOT ASK FOR SPONSORSHIP, ONLY HELP. Typically a company will judge you on that. At 'your age they may send you a couplel of frames and string, and make sure that you stencil the frames at all times and use them at all times.

    It doesn't hurt to try, the only thing they can say is no.

    t-gun

    P.S. - Back in the day, when I first started, they only ranked the first 50 in NJ in each group. I was in the top 100 in my group in Jersey, I asked for some help and Spalding sponsored me for two years. I got two frames and two years worth of natural gut, which even then was valuable.

    If Spalding were ever to get back in the game, I'd be grateful and probably go back and use their stuff because of that generosity.
     
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  24. aj_m2009

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    Ok, thanks Tommy. Hopefully I will have the same fortune as you did. And one last thing. Should I write them or e-mail them. To me it would seem a little more professional to write but nowadays it may really not matter.

    Thanks for all of your help.
     
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  25. TommyGun

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    Both.

    Can't hurt to email them and follow up in writing.

    Keep us informed...
     
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  26. aj_m2009

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    Tommy,

    I just got through e-mailing Pro Kennex. Hopefully they will be as generous to me as Spalding was to you.
     
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  27. mutt

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    Do you know which are the prices of the "help sponsoring deals" of some companies?
     
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  28. danniflava

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    Brampton. GTA. Near Toronto, about 30 mins. away from DOWNTOWN Toronto. I play at the Chingacousy Park Tennis & Curling Club.
     
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  29. danniflava

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    I am really interested in getting sponsored because I have a twin who plays just as much as me, and I guess we're good for our age, and how long we've been playing. Anyway, tennis is becoming a huge burden on our family. I want a coach, but because it's ALWAYS x2 with twins, my family can't afford it. If I want a new racquet, my mom's gonna have to splurge out $400.00 for me AND my brother.
     
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  30. TommyGun

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    Tennis is expensive. And your parents aren't alone. Many recent very good players here in Jersey are twins.

    Sponsorship with coach won't come at your ages unless you can already show a good potential return on investment. I'm currently looking at a 1/10 sponsorship of a girl currently practicing in England. The share is 10,000 GBP. And she has some potential of return on the pro tour, but not huge. If I sign up, its a three year committment, so figure about $50K US before I'm done, and that is before she has ever really earned a cent. She has shown some potential at the lower levels to be a top 50 player, so she might actually get "sponsored".

    Best you could hope for is a racquet deal. Like I said in another post, write those companies on the fringe. Let them know that you guys are twins, how much of a burden it is for the family, and ask if they could help you in anyway. Worst case is they say no, better case is they give you preferred pricing, and best case is they give you some frames and string.

    As for the coach, find a local player in their 30's or 40's who used to be ranked or is a great player. Ask them if they'd be willing to work with you, and see what happens.

    Good Luck.
     
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  31. danniflava

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    Thanks! Don't feel sorry for me, though, LOL.
     
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  32. NoBadMojo

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    Danni look around and see if there are any youth organizations formed in Toronto for tennis. Where I came from I started a non profit called 'Serve the Youth Foundation'. we always had some good racquets around for free to the deserving and those who could not afford.. you dont feel you need brand new $200 racquets do you? we would also donate some teaching time to those kids who showed the most real interest and had the most potential, plus doing some group things that also got the parents involved in tennis and more involved in a positive way with their kids...toronto is a huge city..i bet there are people up there doing what i was doing. maybe start with a Google search and see what you come up with. something like this seems alot more likely than getting sponsored..in spite of what some may think, getting sponsored really isnt very easy and alot of company's are running a tight ship these days with tennis racquets being a very competitive bsiness.
     
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  33. danniflava

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    NoBadMojo,

    My family's not in debt! It's just that myself and my brother want to take our careers in tennis further, and the best way to do that is to get a coach. We know a coach who is really nice, really good, and goes to our club, but he's also really expensive. He charges $20.00/hour. 3 times a week is $60.00. Then you need to multiply $60.00x2=$120.00. $120.00x4 weeks a month is $480.00. $480.00x3 months out of the year is $1,440.00. That's just too expensive.

    With the racquet I have now, my mom spent $400.00 in one hour looking at racquets that we wanted, and she never let us hear the end of it. She's not very tennis-oriented, so when she says not to throw our racquet, it's not for courtesy, it's because she doesn't wanna go buy us a new one if it breaks!!
     
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  34. mutt

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    Who have a player preffered program? What is the price of somes player preffered program? What we got when we buy it?
     
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  35. aj_m2009

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    Tommy, still haven't heard from Pro Kennex yet. If they don't e-mail me back by Friday I will e-mail the next company. Or should I give them a bit more time then that?
     
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  36. TommyGun

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    aj,

    You clearly are tooo impatient. First, the companies will not be getting back to you necessarily fast. They could respond instantly, or months later. If you are looking for something that fast then you best chill. Also, your approach is all wrong, and I thought you understood. My bad.

    Now, what I suggest is that you email ALL of the companies you might be interested in at the same time. You need to understand that at your level you aren't going to really get a preference. You are looking for ANYONE to bite. Like with Spalding, which was NOT a racquet of great repute at the time, you may get a response from a smaller or new company (I'm thinking you might also want to try technifibre). They also won't necessarily give you much of a choice.

    "Sponsored" at your level means "grateful to get free stuff or at least be offered preferred pricing". If you have that mindset, you will be fine. If you are just looking for a particular frame from a particular company, ain't gonna happen.

    Lets say a company like TTK is willing to give you free frames. You could get a frame close to what you like from their line. It may not match or be exactly what you are looking for. You can always have your racquet customized by a good local tech, so even a marginal free frame will be good or great.

    Hope you understand better. Like a wise man once told me, why fish with a line and a single hook when you have a fishing net?

    Hang in there aj, better days are coming.

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  37. aj_m2009

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    Tommy,

    I know I am really impatient but I am just used to people e-mailing me back like asap.

    And what I was going to do was just e-mail one at a time and take the first offer I got, if I got any. But I guess I will e-mail the others now.

    Thanks for all of your help and sorry I didn't get it the first time.
     
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  38. TommyGun

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    No problem,

    You can still take the first offer you get, but you will have more success by mass emailing and then waiting for a response.

    Good luck and keep me posted.
     
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  39. aj_m2009

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    Tommy,

    I just e-mailed cayman, bancroft, and technifibre. Hopefully at least one of the four I e-mailed will be generous.
     
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  40. acedu

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    Hey i played once in front of head got a sponsorship stright up withing 10 minutes. Thats how you have to do it
     
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  41. aj_m2009

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    I would do it this way but I never have a chance to play in front of someone from a racket manufacturer. I don't belong to a club or anything and the only time I get to play at one is when I play tournaments.
     
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  42. tennisbiz333

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    do you think i would have any chance of getting even a partial sponsorship. I am ranked #8 in singles and #1 in doubles in my state
     
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  43. TommyGun

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    tennisbiz,

    definitely. surprised you aren't already, unless you are like 12 years old.
     
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    Hello, I am kinda new to this website and i got here trying to find out how to get sponsored for tennis. I am pretty good in tennis in the area i live in, but it's pretty hard for me to get in tournaments and buy new raquets and shoes since there are 4 other siblings in my family not including my parents. My question is who do you send a letter in those tennis-related companies, asking for their help in what they can offer?

    I am 14, a couple months away from my 15th b-day, and a freshman if this can help you.

    Thanks In Advance.
     
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  45. Kaptain Karl

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    MSendor - You should read the first two pages of this thread. Your answers are there....

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  46. Marius_Hancu

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    heard about the same, you must be at least in the top 20 in a state in US. not sure how big Mo Valley is:)
     
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  47. aj_m2009

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    I would try to get ranked in OK but you have to play a couple of tourneys that cost like $55 apiece and I kinda don't have $110 dollars for 2 tournamnets. And the national tourneys cost even more. I've seen one that was like $95, which is a stupid price. And I would much rather play in ITF tourneys. They cost less and they give a world ranking.
     
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  48. tennisboy87

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    Marius, the Mo Valley consists of players from the states of Missouri, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, and some from Illinois.
     
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  49. aj_m2009

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    Yeah, lots of people. There are the 400 something(which unfortunately I am still in the 400's but am now at 401) that are ranked then like another 200 that are ineligible.
     
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  50. mido

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    aj and other juniors

    For US companies like Prince for full sponsorship you must be in Top 50 in NATIONAL USTA ranking AND be evaluated by Prince Pro in major National tournament.
    For partial sponsorship you should be in around Top 250 in USTA NATIONAL ranking.
    They don't care much about Sectional or State ranking (unless you are top ranked in Florida, So. California or Texas).
    For European companies like Head - they want your National rankings and International ITF rankings!
    Here is the link to current B14 National USTA rankings:
    http://usatennisflorida.tournaments.usta.com/tournaments/rankings/rankinglists.aspx?id=100714
     
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