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Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by samarai, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. samarai

    samarai Rookie

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    Recently started getting into league doubles play (Combo and Mixed). Question is what is the etiquette when you are hitting and the other sides net player hogs up close to the net. Is it bad sportsmanship if I hit a hard forehand shot on a short ball at the net player to keep him/her honest. Most of these players stand about a foot from the middle tee and never relinquish this position.
     
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  2. tennismonkey

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    if it's just a fun match and not a competitive match - then no. you don't drill one at the net hugger. but if it's really a fun match -- i don't really see why the guy would be hugging the net looking to end things quickly.

    if it's a competitive match -- drill the guy at net. being that close to the net is a big advantage for him and effectively limits your options. you can lob him or you can rob him of time by drilling it hard and low at his nads. sometimes it's a good idea to go for a return hard down the line or at the net guy. gives em something to think about.
     
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  3. tennis tom

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    Lob from corner to corner and watch his partner run like a trained monkey. This strategy does not work as well if the player back is a marathon runner.

    Never, ever, hit to the net man, unless you are trying to take out their lights. The blood in yours eyes will make you hit it into the fence or, they will close their eyes, hit the ball off the butt end of their racket for a winner.
     
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  4. blakesq

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    If you are keeping score, it is a competitive match. Drilling at the net guy is always allowed and is a good tactic to keep him honest. (not talking about mixed).

     
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  5. 10smonkey

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    I hear checkers is a really fun game
     
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  6. retlod

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    You play that far forward, you get drilled. Plain and simple.
     
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  7. mikeler

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    "I did not invite him to the net"

    -Ivan Lendl
     
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  8. samarai

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    i don't like to lob unless I'm forced too but its just those short balls that if there's no angle, I just want to blast it at the net person. its always worked since most of the time they end up volleying it long.
     
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  9. SweetH2O

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    I played doubles league match a couple weeks ago against a net hugger. Worst thing about it was that his partner had a lollipop second serve. So I blasted a return at the net guy to back him off, and hit him in the upper thigh. He gets pissed and he and his partner spend the next two games blasting the ball at my head. I duck and all their shots hit the back fence. Easy points for us, but no fun.

    Then the next time his partner is serving, he is back up there hugging the net. I just shake my head and laugh. I didn't want to get into a fist fight and we were winning comfortably, so I just hit cross court returns away from him for the rest of the match.
     
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  10. dizzlmcwizzl

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    Which is it?

    If the guy plays at the T (where I often start the point) he is testing you to see if you are capable of hitting the ball down the line. If you don't use the line, then he has successfully shrunk your return window and if he can volley he has already established that you will lose return games.

    If you mean that the guy is hugging the net (perhaps near the center line) then you have a different problem altogether.

    The problem with hitting at the guy at the net is that you do not do this to win points, but rather to send a message. I would rather win points since from that position since they are so vulnerable positionally.

    The reason some players plant themselves so close to the net is that they cannot volley from any position other than right on top of the net. But if you hit it at them then they can block anything over. These players will not back up, because they cannot hit volleys. So I find against these players even a poor lob over their heads creates many problems for them. These players are good if they can put away your return for a winner, but once the point lasts 3-4 strokes they are constantly out of position and wear out their partners.
     
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  11. Tammo

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    If you're are playing doubles, and one of you opponents is making bad line calls and cheating, is it wrong to hit a booming first-serve when that guy is at the net?
     
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  12. jaybear1909

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    I hate when I'm serving and the opponent (not the one I'm serving to) insists on standing as close to the middle service line as he can. I usually try down the middle or out wide on my first serve and it kind of distracts me when they do this. I just aim down the middle anyways.
     
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  13. fleabitten

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    Yeah, that is totally busch league. I have never played a great player that does this - it is usually a sign of a kid or a 3.0.
     
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  14. USERNAME

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    Hit up the T... Catch em if you can.
    As for the OPs question, in a match that counts for anything fricken drill em. If they wanna stand on top of the net and block everything DRILL THEM, go right at the fh side hip. Also tell your partner so they're ready for any reflex shots. Lobs work I guess, not as fun though.
     
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  15. slickerthansleek

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    In my comp we generally try and avoid hitting the players at the net, however there's one guy who aims at me fairly regularly when I'm up at the net and it's kinda ******y, but it's in the rules so you just gotta deal with it I guess.
     
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  16. Fuji

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    "You're not a true tennis player if you're afraid of getting hit with the ball." Something my old hitting partner used to say all the time, and he was an EXCELLENT serve and volley player. Getting hit is just apart of the game, and some people make it their games to try and hit them. Fair strategy, and I think it's fine. I'm a pretty darn good net player IMO, and I still get tagged every one in a while. I just take it in stride!

    So yes, If I were you, I would be hitting towards the net player, not with intent to harm of course, but a good solid shot to keep them honest is totally good in my books. Like said before, feet or or hips is the best place. Normally if I get hit, it's from those wicked topspin dippers that come down really sharp, and they hit me in the thigh more then anything else! :)

    -Fuji
     
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  17. Doubles

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    I agree. So long as you aren't trying to physically harm the other player, a shot directed towards the net man is perfectly acceptable. I've been tagged multiple times, and I always manage to shake it off. Unless they are truly trying to hurt you, then assume that it's an accident...
     
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  18. Cindysphinx

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    There are strategic reasons to stand near the T when your partner is returning.

    If there is a poach, that poach will likely go up the middle. If I stand there, I am already in position because I am in the probable angle of return. I have also taken away the easiest poach, which is up the middle. Let's see if the poacher can hit an angle away from me.

    If there is no poach, I can then close the net (taking a lateral position that mirrors the ball).

    If the serve comes up the middle, I move quickly to the side to give my partner room to hit the ball, of course.

    So it isn't bush league. It is smart positioning, IMHO.
     
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  19. gmatheis

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    If you can really rip a forehand, i say go at him at least once to see how well he handles it.

    #1 him being so close to the net often gives you a little extra clearance on a shot that would go long but he doesnt have time to judge it and get out of the way.

    #2 you always want it in his head that you "might" go at him

    Evaluate how he responds and go from there.
     
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  20. origmarm

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    I agree with this. A lot of the time this is where I position myself, especially for a good server due to the poach likelihood.
     
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  21. Tar Heel Tennis

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    Then you have obviously never played Josipa Bek of Clemson. Not only does she stand at the line, she also "dances". Initially, I felt she was performing gamesmanship, but she also "dances" when her partner is serving. It's just her thing, I suppose.

    Anyway, she is a great player....just won the ITA Carolinas Indoor doubles (#1 seed, btw) and will be playing for the ITA Indoor Championship in a few weeks.

    So, there are great players that practice this strategy. For myself, I don't care for it, but if I'm playing against someone that does, so be it. I do have pretty good aim, and if I want to get the person away from the T, my serve allows me this option.
     
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  22. tennis tom

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    The sad legacy of Tracey Austin. When I see a guy doing the Tracey Dance it makes me want to puke--how metro. Now all that needs to be added is an echoing grunt to complete the package.
     
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  23. blakesq

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    it always cracks me up when supposedly "good" players care about whether their oppoents are standing statue still or not when the "good" player is serving.

     
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